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MySensors micro step-up module revision 1.0

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  • axillentA axillent

    Through a discussion on the forum we found a potential interest to the step-up module with excellent battery saving capabilities
    We decided to present to you such a module
    It is actually same technology as will be used for MySensors Battery board, but it allows to choose any other board for your battery operated project.
    Module is using one of the best in class chip with hight efficiency and low quiescent current, this allows to run your device for longer time
    Module is designed with standard 2.54 pitch connector, can be easily connected using dupon wires
    Output voltage can be selected by switch 3.3V or 5V
    As power source you can use:

    • for 3.3V output - 1-2 alkaline, 1-3 NiMh/NiCd or solar up to 3.3V
    • for 5V - 1-3 alkaline, 1-4 NiMh/NiCd or solar up to 5V

    100mA output for 3.3V or 70mA for 5V are at minimum guaranteed

    Size is just 15x15mm

    Estimated retail price before shipping cost is $5
    Anyone interested?

    Prototype is on photo fully tested

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    @axillent Looks like a much-needed part for our battery sensors. Is there any chance of moving the pins together to emulate the current step converter in the store? Ie, having three pins in a row: Vout GND Vin. This makes it a drop-in replacement for the existing part.

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      @Bandra said:

      moving the pins together to emulate the current step converter in the store? Ie, having three pins in a row: Vout GND Vin. This makes it a drop-in replacement for the existing part.

      Wow..Nice! Nice fingernails too...i could never photo mine...all chewed up!!! ;-)

      With respect to the capacitior for the radio - i saw @axillent you are soldering a tantalum cap directly to the radio - i really like that method!
      http://forum.mysensors.org/topic/185/battery-sensor-v-1-0-pcb/29

      Alex - i guess this chip cannot output both 3.3 and 5V at the same time, so would it be possible to have a module with two of these chips each one at 3.3 and the other at 5v ??
      -Then it can be used for 5v sensors/devices.

      Greg

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        What is the chip used?

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        • Z Zeph

          What is the chip used?

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          @Zeph it is the same as for Battery board - tps61222. It has lowest quiescent current on the market

          sense and drive

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            @axillent said:

            tps61222

            In the past i was thinking on TPS78233. The idea was solder it on a pro mini board, then i think it could be difficult to solder something too small and quit the idea :D

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            • B Bandra

              @axillent Looks like a much-needed part for our battery sensors. Is there any chance of moving the pins together to emulate the current step converter in the store? Ie, having three pins in a row: Vout GND Vin. This makes it a drop-in replacement for the existing part.

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              @Bandra

              @Bandra said:

              @axillent Looks like a much-needed part for our battery sensors. Is there any chance of moving the pins together to emulate the current step converter in the store? Ie, having three pins in a row: Vout GND Vin. This makes it a drop-in replacement for the existing part.

              unfortunately there is no standard convention of this type. It is hard to match all different needs
              input and output connectors are a generic tradeoff

              sense and drive

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              • greglG gregl

                @Bandra said:

                moving the pins together to emulate the current step converter in the store? Ie, having three pins in a row: Vout GND Vin. This makes it a drop-in replacement for the existing part.

                Wow..Nice! Nice fingernails too...i could never photo mine...all chewed up!!! ;-)

                With respect to the capacitior for the radio - i saw @axillent you are soldering a tantalum cap directly to the radio - i really like that method!
                http://forum.mysensors.org/topic/185/battery-sensor-v-1-0-pcb/29

                Alex - i guess this chip cannot output both 3.3 and 5V at the same time, so would it be possible to have a module with two of these chips each one at 3.3 and the other at 5v ??
                -Then it can be used for 5v sensors/devices.

                Greg

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                @gregl

                @gregl said:

                Alex - i guess this chip cannot output both 3.3 and 5V at the same time, so would it be possible to have a module with two of these chips each one at 3.3 and the other at 5v ??
                -Then it can be used for 5v sensors/devices.

                current draw from the battery is a multiplication from the stepup ratio
                this means that current draw from the buttery with 5V output is 1.5 times higher comparing to 3.3V with the same current on the output
                also current on the output much less depends on the voltage etc. MCU will draw 1-5mA regardless (with some extend) the VCC voltage
                this leads into conclusion that as lower VCC used as better will be battery life

                In my opinion 2.4V will be even more optimal for Battery board, but it is much more convenient to have 3.3V

                While you need 5V you need to choose:

                • best choice is to find all needed components able to work from 3.3V. For example PIR sensor is usually run from 4.5-20V. But there is no problem to purchase PIR running from 0.7-6V
                • least optimal choice is to select 5V as a basic operation. This way you can use cheap LDO (like XC6206P332MR) to source radio

                having two channels in stepup as you requested will double cost because you will need double number of components

                and you always can use two universal modules simultaneously, one configured to 3.3V and other to 5V

                sense and drive

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                  Interested.. any ETA?

                  RJ_Make

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                  • RJ_MakeR RJ_Make

                    Interested.. any ETA?

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                    @ServiceXp

                    A sample has been ordered from factory. When Alexander is back from vacation we'll verify and order production. A wild guess 1-1.5 month.

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                      I'm finally back from a long trip
                      Sorry to be silent

                      Seeed stepup boards are awaiting me at home.
                      Just need to run final performance tests
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                      sense and drive

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                      • axillentA axillent

                        I'm finally back from a long trip
                        Sorry to be silent

                        Seeed stepup boards are awaiting me at home.
                        Just need to run final performance tests
                        фото 2-12.JPG фото 1-15.JPG

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                        @axillent Fantastic! But they will come pre-soldered I hope :P

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                        • bjornhallbergB bjornhallberg

                          @axillent Fantastic! But they will come pre-soldered I hope :P

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                          @bjornhallberg yes sure
                          this is for so called engineering samples

                          sense and drive

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                            wich inductor do you use for this chip. Your inductor seems verry small!

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                              How far away are these today?

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