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  • Cliff KarlssonC Offline
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    Cliff Karlsson
    wrote on last edited by
    #91

    Is this what you used to burn the bootloader?

    USB-programmer-AVRISP-mkII-mk2-clone-ATMEL-AVR-New

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    • m26872M Offline
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      m26872
      Hardware Contributor
      wrote on last edited by
      #92

      I use this. Maybe not so expensive when I bought it 15 months ago, but still. I remember I was mad after I'd failed a lot with avrdude and cheaper tools (uno).

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        martkrui
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        #93

        Just received my boards from DirtyPCB :smile:
        Enough for 10x3=30 sensors... :scream: The boards look nice. I think I can even skip the R&C's if I use the internal VCC measuring method but I'll have to scan the thread for that.

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        • M martkrui

          Just received my boards from DirtyPCB :smile:
          Enough for 10x3=30 sensors... :scream: The boards look nice. I think I can even skip the R&C's if I use the internal VCC measuring method but I'll have to scan the thread for that.

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          m26872
          Hardware Contributor
          wrote on last edited by
          #94

          @martkrui R1 and C2 are mandatory if you intend to use the 6 pin FTDI port (I think you do). C3 (ARef - Gnd) is primarily for when you use Adc external ref, but (if I remember correct) it stabilizes the Adc in general. C1 (Vcc - Gnd) is just the "near chip supply input capacitor" and could probably be left out if there are some other caps near the nRF.

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          • dakkyD dakky

            Could u show a screen for the lockbits too? I have never set them before and need some guidance :D thanks

            Dakky

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            bjacobse
            wrote on last edited by
            #95

            @dakky said:

            Could u show a screen for the lockbits too? I have never set them before and need some guidance :D thanks

            Dakky

            I use ubuntu, and a tiny USB, so after I have flashed my arduino board, I run this avrdude command, that will run until battery is low

            avrdude -c usbtiny -p m328p -U efuse:w:0x07:m
            

            I have bought usbtiny from this guy:
            http://www.ebay.com/itm/USBtinyISP-V4-AVR-ISP-Programmer-Reliable-Plastic-Enclosure-/330824700564?hash=item4d06b05294

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            • m26872M m26872

              @ahmedadelhosni
              I think it's a good idea! And an easy mod, but it's not on priority list atm. Someone else would get a quick start from my already published kicad-files.

              The thought behind present design is that I didn't want anything to cover the antenna in any direction, but I doubt it would matter much in this suggested case. It'll be worse when it comes to the hight. Look at the photos. The nRF becomes too high for my enclosures if I use a socket, and the 328p with its socket is too high to fit under a nRF without its socket. The solution would be to remove the 328p socket and move the R and Cs to bottom side or somewhere else. And without a 328p socket, the 3x2 AVR ISP pins would become more important to keep. Otherwise the board could have been trimmed even more.

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              ahmedadelhosni
              wrote on last edited by ahmedadelhosni
              #96

              @m26872 Hi again. Just a small update regarding rotating the nrf.

              I decided that in my designs I'll need the straight and rotated version, thus I'll design a small board to map the pin outputs like the image below. It will be above the ICSP pins but I really don't care about re flashing.

              I'll order the board as soon as I finish pcb layout of some other boards and ship all at once.

              Thanks.

              upload-dbcd859c-7c4c-4e46-959c-e83314602bcd

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              • ahmedadelhosniA ahmedadelhosni

                @m26872 Hi again. Just a small update regarding rotating the nrf.

                I decided that in my designs I'll need the straight and rotated version, thus I'll design a small board to map the pin outputs like the image below. It will be above the ICSP pins but I really don't care about re flashing.

                I'll order the board as soon as I finish pcb layout of some other boards and ship all at once.

                Thanks.

                upload-dbcd859c-7c4c-4e46-959c-e83314602bcd

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                m26872
                Hardware Contributor
                wrote on last edited by
                #97

                @ahmedadelhosni You know that the nRF pins are not centered? That means if you rotate it like this it will no longer be straight above the "slim node motherboard".
                What height do you expect it to be?

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                  dakky
                  wrote on last edited by dakky
                  #98

                  Another "noobish" question:
                  When using this bootloader, one cycle takes 8 seconds? What happens, if for example, a switch is pressed between? does this sensor detect this?

                  Controller: Raspberry Pi 2 :: Openhab2 :: with @TimO MySensors Binding
                  Gateway: Arduino MEGA 2560 R3 :: W5100 :: Ethernet GW

                  Software: MySensors 2.0development

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                  • dakkyD dakky

                    Another "noobish" question:
                    When using this bootloader, one cycle takes 8 seconds? What happens, if for example, a switch is pressed between? does this sensor detect this?

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                    m26872
                    Hardware Contributor
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #99

                    @dakky Plz correct me... but I guess you're talking about the Avr sleep cycles? I don't know what that's got to do with the bootloader or this thread. I think it's related to interrupt, timers, mysensors and arduino lowpower library. The sleep cycles shouldn't be something to worry about if you're using the "sleep" function as in MySensors API.

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                    • m26872M m26872

                      @dakky Plz correct me... but I guess you're talking about the Avr sleep cycles? I don't know what that's got to do with the bootloader or this thread. I think it's related to interrupt, timers, mysensors and arduino lowpower library. The sleep cycles shouldn't be something to worry about if you're using the "sleep" function as in MySensors API.

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                      dakky
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                      #100

                      @m26872 hmm you're right. maybe this is a too generic question to be discussed here. pardon me.

                      Controller: Raspberry Pi 2 :: Openhab2 :: with @TimO MySensors Binding
                      Gateway: Arduino MEGA 2560 R3 :: W5100 :: Ethernet GW

                      Software: MySensors 2.0development

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                        martkrui
                        wrote on last edited by martkrui
                        #101

                        I had a bit of an issue getting things going as I've never played with the fuses before. Maybe this can save someone else some time. If I'm doing something silly here please correct me. :sweat_smile:

                        [DISCLAIMER] this worked for me. Use at own risk[DISCLAIMER]

                        Executed these commands from the subfolder \hardware\tools\avr\bin of my local arduino IDE.
                        Connected the board ICSP using an USBASP with the latest firmware. Change the "-c usbasp" part if you connect using something else.

                        Flash bootloader

                        avrdude -C ../etc/avrdude.conf -c usbasp -B5 -p ATmega328P -U flash:w:..\..\..\arduino\avr\bootloaders\atmega\atmega328_1a.hex
                        

                        Set fuses

                        avrdude -C ../etc/avrdude.conf -c usbasp -B5 -p ATmega328P -U lfuse:w:0x62:m -U hfuse:w:0xDE:m -U efuse:w:0x07:m -U lock:w:0x2F:m
                        
                        

                        I think the B5 was crucial as it slows things down a bit. The bootloader (atmega328_1a.hex) is the one mentioned in the first post. I also added the part in the boards.txt of the arduino IDE.

                        Now I can connect the board to the FTDI and upload and run sketches without issues.

                        On to the next step :smiley: :+1:

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                          dakky
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #102

                          I am not so really skilled in transferring a wiring diagram to "real live". Is this the correct implementation for battery measuring?

                          upload-8e188148-e6c0-44ef-9b8c-a01fe9cd1c3a

                          Controller: Raspberry Pi 2 :: Openhab2 :: with @TimO MySensors Binding
                          Gateway: Arduino MEGA 2560 R3 :: W5100 :: Ethernet GW

                          Software: MySensors 2.0development

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                          • dakkyD dakky

                            I am not so really skilled in transferring a wiring diagram to "real live". Is this the correct implementation for battery measuring?

                            upload-8e188148-e6c0-44ef-9b8c-a01fe9cd1c3a

                            m26872M Offline
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                            m26872
                            Hardware Contributor
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #103

                            @dakky First, the "normal" battery monitoring to this node is to use the internal method by, if you like, using the vcc library. Measuring Vcc with external voltage divider makes not a lot of sense. The external voltage divider is useful when measuring e.g. raw battery voltage to some voltage regulator.
                            Second, I think you've switched A0 and Gnd in your drawing.

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                              dakky
                              wrote on last edited by dakky
                              #104

                              hurm did i switch them?
                              Concerning the method: hmm ok. I just thought, that the one recommenced in the build section of mysensors should be the "correct" one.

                              EDIT: Hrhr @Yveaux vcc lib is cute :D workd out of the box ;) thx

                              Controller: Raspberry Pi 2 :: Openhab2 :: with @TimO MySensors Binding
                              Gateway: Arduino MEGA 2560 R3 :: W5100 :: Ethernet GW

                              Software: MySensors 2.0development

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                                arnoldg
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                                #105

                                Is there some one who have lying around several boards, who can share them with me.
                                i'm from the netherlands, and for now i only need 5 to 6 boards, not 30 :)

                                so i hope i could take over a couple from someone.

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                                • A arnoldg

                                  Is there some one who have lying around several boards, who can share them with me.
                                  i'm from the netherlands, and for now i only need 5 to 6 boards, not 30 :)

                                  so i hope i could take over a couple from someone.

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                                  AWI
                                  Hero Member
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #106

                                  @arnoldg send me a pm...

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                                  • A arnoldg

                                    Is there some one who have lying around several boards, who can share them with me.
                                    i'm from the netherlands, and for now i only need 5 to 6 boards, not 30 :)

                                    so i hope i could take over a couple from someone.

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                                    ar91
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                                    #107

                                    @arnoldg said:

                                    Is there some one who have lying around several boards, who can share them with me.
                                    i'm from the netherlands, and for now i only need 5 to 6 boards, not 30 :)

                                    so i hope i could take over a couple from someone.

                                    Same here, anybody in US has 4 or 5 boards that i could buy?

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                                      dakky
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #108

                                      Anyone want to share some photos with sensors assembled?
                                      Any experiences how long this node will last? I have one DHT11 and one BH1750 onboard and will wake up the node every 5-15 Minutes.

                                      Greetings
                                      Dakky

                                      Controller: Raspberry Pi 2 :: Openhab2 :: with @TimO MySensors Binding
                                      Gateway: Arduino MEGA 2560 R3 :: W5100 :: Ethernet GW

                                      Software: MySensors 2.0development

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                                        nikos1671
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                                        #109

                                        If I order the 10 pieces for 14$ how many sensor I can build? They mean 10 panels with 3 boards each one?

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                                          kr0815
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                                          #110

                                          yes, that´s 30 sensors you could build then

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