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My Slim 2AA Battery Node

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  • AWIA AWI

    @m26872 Great design, did you share the design on dirtyPcb's?

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    m26872
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    @AWI No, but the Eagle files are attached above. I'm new to all this open hw/sw sharing. You're very welcome to tell me how I should do it the right way. PM if you like.

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    • m26872M m26872

      @AWI No, but the Eagle files are attached above. I'm new to all this open hw/sw sharing. You're very welcome to tell me how I should do it the right way. PM if you like.

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      AWI
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      #10

      @m26872 When you check out your order you can set the "sharing" options:
      upload-821ec565-96e5-4214-baa4-72564a63c07a and even get a small profit (or a donation to MySensors..)

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        @m26872: very nice idea :smiley:
        just a little question, is your cable duct pvc. I think so. Alloy maybe would not be great for radio...
        yoyur idea can be very helpful thx for share.

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        • scalzS scalz

          @m26872: very nice idea :smiley:
          just a little question, is your cable duct pvc. I think so. Alloy maybe would not be great for radio...
          yoyur idea can be very helpful thx for share.

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          m26872
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          @scalz Yes, it's pvc.

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          • H Harrdy

            I see u don't use a external 8mhz quarz. Because any technical reasons (=low current?) or for reasons of space?

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            @Harrdy said:

            I see u don't use a external 8mhz quarz. Because any technical reasons (=low current?) or for reasons of space?

            Low power, low cost, less space, less work. Stability might be an issue at different ambient temperatures etc.

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              m26872
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              #14

              Added a boardhouse link if anyone would like to order the board straight from there (thx @AWI). Couldn't see any cons.
              I think it's enough tested, but personally I'd wait for a tested v2.0 or make suggested improvements myself first.

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                Hi,

                great job! I think i will use your board to for small window -sensors.
                But one question: i cannot upload sketches via arduino-ide when the 1mhz bootloader is flashed. i checked the wires and everything else and i tested a 8mhz/internal bootloader - works fine. but the 1mhz-bootloader just does not accept uploads?

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                • A ahhk

                  Hi,

                  great job! I think i will use your board to for small window -sensors.
                  But one question: i cannot upload sketches via arduino-ide when the 1mhz bootloader is flashed. i checked the wires and everything else and i tested a 8mhz/internal bootloader - works fine. but the 1mhz-bootloader just does not accept uploads?

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                  m26872
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                  #16

                  @ahhk There's also the precompiled bootloader for 4800 baud in the link above. Did you try that one too? I think 9600 baud was maximum serial speed at 1MHz. Lower should be safer.
                  Or what do you mean with "does not accept uploads"? Is it locked?
                  Double checked boards.txt settings?

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                    #17

                    Hi,

                    i can upload via RX/TX with arduino IDE with the 8mhz/internal bootloader. but if i flash the 1mhz bootloader from the link above (atmega328_1a.hex), i cannot upload the same way...

                    TX/RX is connected correctly. I can upload a sketch via "Upload with programmer" and receive and transmit characters with 9600baud. tested with the example-sketch "SerialEvent".

                    IT is a brand new 328P - not locked...

                    boards.txt shows

                    ##############################################################
                    
                    apm96.name=APM Optiboot internal 1MHz noBOD 9600baud
                    
                    apm96.upload.tool=avrdude
                    apm96.upload.protocol=arduino
                    apm96.upload.maximum_size=32256
                    apm96.upload.speed=9600
                    apm96.bootloader.tool=avrdude
                    apm96.bootloader.low_fuses=0x62
                    apm96.bootloader.high_fuses=0xde
                    apm96.bootloader.extended_fuses=0x07
                    apm96.bootloader.path=optiboot_v50
                    apm96.bootloader.file=atmega328_1a.hex
                    apm96.bootloader.unlock_bits=0x3F
                    apm96.bootloader.lock_bits=0x2F
                    apm96.build.mcu=atmega328p
                    apm96.build.f_cpu=1000000L
                    apm96.build.core=arduino
                    apm96.build.variant=standard
                    
                    ##############################################################
                    

                    i didnt try the 4800baud bootloader until now....i will do now...

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                    • A ahhk

                      Hi,

                      i can upload via RX/TX with arduino IDE with the 8mhz/internal bootloader. but if i flash the 1mhz bootloader from the link above (atmega328_1a.hex), i cannot upload the same way...

                      TX/RX is connected correctly. I can upload a sketch via "Upload with programmer" and receive and transmit characters with 9600baud. tested with the example-sketch "SerialEvent".

                      IT is a brand new 328P - not locked...

                      boards.txt shows

                      ##############################################################
                      
                      apm96.name=APM Optiboot internal 1MHz noBOD 9600baud
                      
                      apm96.upload.tool=avrdude
                      apm96.upload.protocol=arduino
                      apm96.upload.maximum_size=32256
                      apm96.upload.speed=9600
                      apm96.bootloader.tool=avrdude
                      apm96.bootloader.low_fuses=0x62
                      apm96.bootloader.high_fuses=0xde
                      apm96.bootloader.extended_fuses=0x07
                      apm96.bootloader.path=optiboot_v50
                      apm96.bootloader.file=atmega328_1a.hex
                      apm96.bootloader.unlock_bits=0x3F
                      apm96.bootloader.lock_bits=0x2F
                      apm96.build.mcu=atmega328p
                      apm96.build.f_cpu=1000000L
                      apm96.build.core=arduino
                      apm96.build.variant=standard
                      
                      ##############################################################
                      

                      i didnt try the 4800baud bootloader until now....i will do now...

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                      #18

                      @ahhk Reset issue? Maybe try other startup times (low fuse 42h or 52h), other usb2serial or adjust reset R and C.

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                        #19

                        For info. I've prototyped and ordered a slightly improved version of the pcb. Note that this is UNTESTED and experimental.
                        Eagle brd-file and board house link. Use it for inspiration. Don't expect it to be and tested until next month at least.
                        board_v1.2.PNG

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                          #20

                          Great work @m26872
                          Thanks for sharing!

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                            Really great idea @m26872 !!
                            I'm waiting for the V1.2 test and review before ordering some boards on DirtyPcb.
                            One Tip/question : have you thought on panelizing your slimnode, because we could easily fit 3 board on the 5X5 limitation ? I also think that DirtyPCB would even process the break routing to ease board separation.

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                            • F frenchclem

                              Really great idea @m26872 !!
                              I'm waiting for the V1.2 test and review before ordering some boards on DirtyPcb.
                              One Tip/question : have you thought on panelizing your slimnode, because we could easily fit 3 board on the 5X5 limitation ? I also think that DirtyPCB would even process the break routing to ease board separation.

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                              m26872
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                              wrote on last edited by m26872
                              #22

                              @frenchclem
                              AAMOF I ordered a panelized version just a few days ago. I'm completely new to all this, so I leave no guarantees...
                              Here's the brd-file.

                              Edit 3/12: Boardhouse link removed (the panelized version of v1.2 contains a faulty via between D13 and SCK.)

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                                frenchclem
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                                #23

                                I guess if you ordered panelized version, you have tested the V1.2 ? Would you mind sharing the schematics also please ?
                                I'm also very new to this, I've never ordered PCB on Dirtypcb, how long does it takes to arrive in Europe ?

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                                  Delivery times depend mostly on shipping time. DirtyPCB have their boards made usually within a week after uploading the files. But shipping can take 3-4 weeks to get to Europe.

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                                  • F frenchclem

                                    I guess if you ordered panelized version, you have tested the V1.2 ? Would you mind sharing the schematics also please ?
                                    I'm also very new to this, I've never ordered PCB on Dirtypcb, how long does it takes to arrive in Europe ?

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                                    m26872
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                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #25

                                    @frenchclem
                                    No I actually ordered before I got the first sample, due to the delivery time. But now (just a day after) I got the first v1.2. Delivery time was 4 weeks (to Sweden). Soon tested...

                                    I don't think there are any changes to the already published schematics.

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                                      #26

                                      @GertSanders @m26872
                                      Thanks guys for the good work I just ordered your boards
                                      Will definitely let you know how things goes

                                      GertSanders, did you find a nice box for your board + battery ?

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                                        #27

                                        @frenchclem Not yet, the height is indeed the limiting factor. I'm now looking for a small box that can hold the sensor on it's side. SO for the moment the sensors are scattered around the house without a box around them (usually in places where the cat does not go or could find them).

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                                          @GertSanders thats what I was worried about. What is the height of the sensor + battery ?

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