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    meddie
    wrote on last edited by meddie
    #205

    @ahmedadelhosni
    what is it on the door? is that a plastic wrap?

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    • M meddie

      @ahmedadelhosni
      what is it on the door? is that a plastic wrap?

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      #206

      @meddie
      0_1454272780491_1453938474660-1453938399889-988876899.jpg

      The sensor is drawn by black rectangle. This is adhesive tape like this : http://2.imimg.com/data2/YX/UQ/MY-3910304/sale-bopp-clarity-adhesive-tape-250x250.jpg

      The other red rectangle on the door was old tape I didn't remove. Actually before getting my boards I used a bread board and a battery for testing, so I needed a tape for support and keeping it in place :)

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        meddie
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        #207

        :thumbsup:

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        • m26872M m26872

          @Tomasz-Pazio Sounds more like some issue with the IDE and boards file than hw and fuses/bootloader. Have you tried different IDE versions?

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          Tomasz Pazio
          wrote on last edited by
          #208

          @m26872 thanks for advice, bootloader burned on IDE 1.0.x and after that, sketches are uploaded properly on 1.6.x.

          One more question, how it should report battery state? I can not see any variable created for this in Vera.

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          • Tomasz PazioT Tomasz Pazio

            @m26872 thanks for advice, bootloader burned on IDE 1.0.x and after that, sketches are uploaded properly on 1.6.x.

            One more question, how it should report battery state? I can not see any variable created for this in Vera.

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            m26872
            Hardware Contributor
            wrote on last edited by
            #209

            @Tomasz-Pazio Great! If I remember Vera correct, a variable should be created automaticly upon first message if you use the sendbatterylevel() fuction.

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            • Cliff KarlssonC Offline
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              Cliff Karlsson
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              #210

              anyone care to write down the exact precedure of how to burn a new bootloader to the atmel chip? what files goes to what folders and so on.

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              • GertSandersG Offline
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                GertSanders
                Hardware Contributor
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                #211

                @Cliff-Karlsson I'm experimenting with several versions of Optiboot (various upload and upload combinations) for my board. Once that is done, I will add it to the documentation of my board. I'm extending the sketch found here:

                http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=11635

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                • Cliff KarlssonC Cliff Karlsson

                  anyone care to write down the exact precedure of how to burn a new bootloader to the atmel chip? what files goes to what folders and so on.

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                  m26872
                  Hardware Contributor
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                  #212

                  @Cliff-Karlsson Let's continue your bootloader trouble discussion in it's own thread:
                  http://forum.mysensors.org/topic/2975/how-do-i-burn-a-bootloader-to-an-328p-with-uno-bootloader-preinstalled/8

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                    wrote on last edited by rsachoc
                    #213

                    OK, so finally I have received most of the parts I need to build a few of these sensors. I want to go with a temp sensor at first, the si7021. So I wanted to check what "other bits" I need (newb alert).

                    0_1454624296448_upload-80039080-fce7-4484-b238-a54bdb2d28fd

                    From there, do I need both 1 and 2? If so, what are these?

                    0_1454624355650_upload-36748b2e-623b-4953-bdb4-394fbe264ef6

                    From here, what are 3 and 4? Do I need both?

                    Also, depending on the answers above, do I solder to exactly the same pins? Have I missed anything?

                    Thanks

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                    • Cliff KarlssonC Offline
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                      #214

                      Ok, finaly succeded in burning the bootloader. Now comes next part. Fuses and lockbits, I have no idea what this means but is this what I need to do?

                      avrdude -C ../etc/avrdude.conf -c usbasp -B5 -p ATmega328P -U lfuse:w:0x62:m -U hfuse:w:0xDE:m -U efuse:w:0x07:m -U lock:w:0x2F:m
                      
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                      • M Offline
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                        meddie
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                        #215

                        oh, yes! And you have to be carefully with them, because to set the fuses wrong, can destroy your µcontroller

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                          meddie
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #216

                          if you look to message Nr 179 you will find my bootloader and the correct fuses for this. But its a 1MHz Bootloader and the fuses too.
                          Dont use it if you want to run it at 8 MHz.

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                            bjacobse
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                            #217

                            Web-based fuse calculator
                            A different way of evaluating fuses is presented at this web page:
                            http://www.engbedded.com/fusecalc

                            At the bottom I inserted your fuses.
                            Translation:
                            Divide by8-> if your mcy board uses 8Mhz, then you now use 1Mhz Clock (Good this enables that you now can use a lower voltage down to 1,9V)
                            SPI is enabled, then you can program your mcu with FTDI cable
                            BOD mcu will not power down mcu when you have a low voltage (So you can use down to 1,9V)
                            I write 1,9Volt since this is the lowest voltage your NRF24L01+ can use for operation

                            0_1454685582246_upload-5f146d65-d819-455d-8d3c-ed029eb79abb

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                              Cliff Karlsson
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                              #218

                              Sorry for asking the same questions over and over but I have just used the files linked at the top of this thread.

                              This is the bootloader that I used:

                              atmega328_1a.hex (Optiboot for 9600baud at 1MHz)
                              
                              
                              ##############################################################
                              # Add the new board to boards.txt (normally located at "C:\Program Files\Arduino\hardware\arduino\avr"
                              # The *.bootloader.* etries only matters if you want to program bootloader (and fuses) from Arduino IDE. 
                              # See http://www.engbedded.com/fusecalc (select Atmega328p) for interpretation of fuse values and how 
                              # extended fuses are written in different applications (07h in Arduino IDE = FFh in Atmel studio).
                              ##############################################################
                              
                              apm96.name=APM Optiboot internal 1MHz noBOD 9600baud
                              
                              apm96.upload.tool=avrdude
                              apm96.upload.protocol=arduino
                              apm96.upload.maximum_size=32256
                              apm96.upload.speed=9600
                              apm96.bootloader.tool=avrdude
                              apm96.bootloader.low_fuses=0x62
                              apm96.bootloader.high_fuses=0xde
                              apm96.bootloader.extended_fuses=0x07
                              apm96.bootloader.path=optiboot_v50
                              apm96.bootloader.file=atmega328_1a.hex
                              apm96.bootloader.unlock_bits=0x3F
                              apm96.bootloader.lock_bits=0x2F
                              apm96.build.mcu=atmega328p
                              apm96.build.f_cpu=1000000L
                              apm96.build.core=arduino
                              apm96.build.variant=standard
                              
                              

                              Do I still need to add fuses or is that done when the bootloader is burned?

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                              • Cliff KarlssonC Cliff Karlsson

                                Sorry for asking the same questions over and over but I have just used the files linked at the top of this thread.

                                This is the bootloader that I used:

                                atmega328_1a.hex (Optiboot for 9600baud at 1MHz)
                                
                                
                                ##############################################################
                                # Add the new board to boards.txt (normally located at "C:\Program Files\Arduino\hardware\arduino\avr"
                                # The *.bootloader.* etries only matters if you want to program bootloader (and fuses) from Arduino IDE. 
                                # See http://www.engbedded.com/fusecalc (select Atmega328p) for interpretation of fuse values and how 
                                # extended fuses are written in different applications (07h in Arduino IDE = FFh in Atmel studio).
                                ##############################################################
                                
                                apm96.name=APM Optiboot internal 1MHz noBOD 9600baud
                                
                                apm96.upload.tool=avrdude
                                apm96.upload.protocol=arduino
                                apm96.upload.maximum_size=32256
                                apm96.upload.speed=9600
                                apm96.bootloader.tool=avrdude
                                apm96.bootloader.low_fuses=0x62
                                apm96.bootloader.high_fuses=0xde
                                apm96.bootloader.extended_fuses=0x07
                                apm96.bootloader.path=optiboot_v50
                                apm96.bootloader.file=atmega328_1a.hex
                                apm96.bootloader.unlock_bits=0x3F
                                apm96.bootloader.lock_bits=0x2F
                                apm96.build.mcu=atmega328p
                                apm96.build.f_cpu=1000000L
                                apm96.build.core=arduino
                                apm96.build.variant=standard
                                
                                

                                Do I still need to add fuses or is that done when the bootloader is burned?

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                                ahmedadelhosni
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #219

                                @Cliff-Karlsson

                                It is already done when you burn the bootloader.

                                apm96.bootloader.low_fuses=0x62
                                apm96.bootloader.high_fuses=0xde

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                                • Cliff KarlssonC Cliff Karlsson

                                  Ok, finaly succeded in burning the bootloader. Now comes next part. Fuses and lockbits, I have no idea what this means but is this what I need to do?

                                  avrdude -C ../etc/avrdude.conf -c usbasp -B5 -p ATmega328P -U lfuse:w:0x62:m -U hfuse:w:0xDE:m -U efuse:w:0x07:m -U lock:w:0x2F:m
                                  
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                                  m26872
                                  Hardware Contributor
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #220

                                  @Cliff-Karlsson said:

                                  Ok, finaly succeded in burning the bootloader.

                                  Great news!! With Arduino as ISP? Any particular tips to share?

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                                    Cliff Karlsson
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #221

                                    @m26872 I am fairly sure that all methods work in normal cases but nothing worked for me fore some reason :) .

                                    The only way I could get it to work was when I finaly put the chip in an Arduino Uno clone with 328p Dip(?) socket and connected an USBtiny ISP to the ISCP of that Uno. It took just a couple of seconds and then it was done :).

                                    I flashed like 6-7 ships right away with bootloader and blink-sketch just for fun. Biggest problem now is to get the damn chip in/out of the sockets without bending any legs. But I ordered a chip extractor to remedy that problem (in 4-6 weeks :()

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                                    • Cliff KarlssonC Cliff Karlsson

                                      @m26872 I am fairly sure that all methods work in normal cases but nothing worked for me fore some reason :) .

                                      The only way I could get it to work was when I finaly put the chip in an Arduino Uno clone with 328p Dip(?) socket and connected an USBtiny ISP to the ISCP of that Uno. It took just a couple of seconds and then it was done :).

                                      I flashed like 6-7 ships right away with bootloader and blink-sketch just for fun. Biggest problem now is to get the damn chip in/out of the sockets without bending any legs. But I ordered a chip extractor to remedy that problem (in 4-6 weeks :()

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                                      m26872
                                      Hardware Contributor
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #222

                                      @Cliff-Karlsson
                                      :thumbsup:

                                      To get the ICs out from the DIP socket, I just use a small screw driver (2-3mm) and gently push it all the way under from one side only. And of course, don't push in the IC to hard to begin with.

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                                      • Cliff KarlssonC Cliff Karlsson

                                        @m26872 I am fairly sure that all methods work in normal cases but nothing worked for me fore some reason :) .

                                        The only way I could get it to work was when I finaly put the chip in an Arduino Uno clone with 328p Dip(?) socket and connected an USBtiny ISP to the ISCP of that Uno. It took just a couple of seconds and then it was done :).

                                        I flashed like 6-7 ships right away with bootloader and blink-sketch just for fun. Biggest problem now is to get the damn chip in/out of the sockets without bending any legs. But I ordered a chip extractor to remedy that problem (in 4-6 weeks :()

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                                        bjacobse
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #223

                                        @Cliff-Karlsson
                                        You shall buy Textool ZIF socket. not sure which fits your Arduino, If you at some point get's lazy (Solder less, and accept to use a little more space) and use Arduino Pro Mini then textool 224-3344 ZIF will be your friend

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                                          #224

                                          Hi all, I'm seeing replies, but I'm not sure if any are aimed at my question? I think not?

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