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  • rollercontainerR Offline
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    rollercontainer
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    #313

    Hm, I built some nodes and messured the current with a Fluke 179: 15mA even with a minimal sketch with sleeping enabled. AVRs are not from china, but the NRF24 are. So, is the radio the problem?

    Greetings

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      #314

      (i am using MySensors 2.0.0beta)

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      • m26872M Offline
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        m26872
        Hardware Contributor
        wrote on last edited by
        #315

        Could be radio, but who knows? What troubleshooting steps have you taken? Hw-, sw-variations etc. Please post your sketch. Perhaps are there any SlimNode users with working MyS 2.0.0 beta that can share some info.

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        • m26872M m26872

          Could be radio, but who knows? What troubleshooting steps have you taken? Hw-, sw-variations etc. Please post your sketch. Perhaps are there any SlimNode users with working MyS 2.0.0 beta that can share some info.

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          GertSanders
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          #316

          @m26872
          I have had a bad radio which would not go to sleep and consumed around that amount all the time (also when I used SLEEP in the 2.0 library).

          Switching the radio to another one fixed it. All my radio's are from China, so they are normally OK. But you can get bad ones once in a while. Given the low cost I do not care and swap them when needed.

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          • rollercontainerR Offline
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            #317

            Ok, where to buy NRF24's which are genuine for sure and not too expensive in europe?

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            • rollercontainerR rollercontainer

              Ok, where to buy NRF24's which are genuine for sure and not too expensive in europe?

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              GertSanders
              Hardware Contributor
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              #318

              @rollercontainer
              No idea, I'm quite happy with the radio's from China (1 bad one on 25 pcs so far).

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              • rollercontainerR Offline
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                #319

                Thx, Gert. Are you using 1.5 or 2.0.0beta?

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                • rollercontainerR rollercontainer

                  Thx, Gert. Are you using 1.5 or 2.0.0beta?

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                  Hardware Contributor
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                  #320

                  @rollercontainer
                  I use the 2.0 beta

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                    #321

                    Bought another 2 radios from different dealers. The one with the blob on the die is going down to 2mA, but isnt working at all (node does not come up). The next one is working, but again 15mA. This is frustrating. Anyone here with a good source for radio modules?

                    Even with a stripped down sketch without any sensors with only delay and sleep in the loop, the current stays the same.

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                    • rollercontainerR rollercontainer

                      Bought another 2 radios from different dealers. The one with the blob on the die is going down to 2mA, but isnt working at all (node does not come up). The next one is working, but again 15mA. This is frustrating. Anyone here with a good source for radio modules?

                      Even with a stripped down sketch without any sensors with only delay and sleep in the loop, the current stays the same.

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                      Hardware Contributor
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                      #322

                      @rollercontainer
                      I get my radio's from an Aliexpress store called AAA+ (or something with a lot of A's in the name).

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                        #323

                        @26872, It's my first post here and I had to register so that I could give you my regards for your work and for sharing it with us! Just ordered a batch of your v2 boards.

                        I have similar design sensors running on proto-pcbs, but your ready-made pcb makes everything much more convenient.

                        Just had a question on stability of running regular Arduino 8mhz internal clock bootloader for prolonged time. Anyone tried this and had success running the 328 down to 2v (or so) @ 8mhz? If this is a doomed idea, I will have to attach the boost circuit to this design, but it would be nice to avoid all that parasite current consumption.

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                        • BobcatB Bobcat

                          @26872, It's my first post here and I had to register so that I could give you my regards for your work and for sharing it with us! Just ordered a batch of your v2 boards.

                          I have similar design sensors running on proto-pcbs, but your ready-made pcb makes everything much more convenient.

                          Just had a question on stability of running regular Arduino 8mhz internal clock bootloader for prolonged time. Anyone tried this and had success running the 328 down to 2v (or so) @ 8mhz? If this is a doomed idea, I will have to attach the boost circuit to this design, but it would be nice to avoid all that parasite current consumption.

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                          GertSanders
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                          #324

                          @Bobcat
                          I have had an atmega328 run down to 1V6 at 8Mhz before failing completely, so working down to 2V should be OK. The nrf24 will likely stop around that point as well (lower limit is 1V9 for that chip).

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                          • GertSandersG GertSanders

                            @Bobcat
                            I have had an atmega328 run down to 1V6 at 8Mhz before failing completely, so working down to 2V should be OK. The nrf24 will likely stop around that point as well (lower limit is 1V9 for that chip).

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                            @GertSanders
                            Thank you for the reply! Was the atmega doing some clock critical tasks when it went below 2v? I am thinking to attach BME280 (Pressure/Temp/Hum) which also operates in the same voltage range, but not sure if the I2C will be working properly when atmega goes overclocked.

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                              @GertSanders
                              Thank you for the reply! Was the atmega doing some clock critical tasks when it went below 2v? I am thinking to attach BME280 (Pressure/Temp/Hum) which also operates in the same voltage range, but not sure if the I2C will be working properly when atmega goes overclocked.

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                              @Bobcat
                              The nice thing about I2C is that the clock is generated by the atmega328 (the master), so even if this clock slows down due to low voltage (this happens a little when using the internal oscillator), the I2C devices on that bus just follow.
                              We can also use SI7021 (temperature and humidity sensor) at these low voltages for the same reason.

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                                #327

                                Hello all

                                I´m Henrik, first post here and sort of beginner at this ( use to do some embedded stuff some 15 years ago and picked it up again recently )

                                I just did a shopping list for this project, Version 2.0 if I got it correct =)
                                here it is: http://my.aliexpress.com/wishlist/shared.htm?groupId=3106453469
                                As an example it should be about 20 euros if you buy to be able to make 5 whole sets.

                                I added 3 additional and optional things to the original BOM:
                                battery holder + battery connector to make it easier to change them ( I think )
                                straight pins

                                I did this for people searching for the components needed that does not have any or very few before starting the project.

                                Only thing extra needed I think would be some additional cable and a arduino UNO or some other way to program the single chips. But I assume you already have a UNO if you read this :)
                                And a soldering iron and that stuff.

                                (if even one person found this useful I guess it fulfilled its purpose)

                                //Henrik

                                rPi 3 - UNO R3 - Mini - Nano - custom

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                                  #328

                                  can someone tell me if I can find Version 2 on the new site: http://dangerousprototypes.com/store/pcbs
                                  ?

                                  I never ordered any pcb´s like this before so I don´t want to get it wrong =D.
                                  If the models are not there to choose from unlike the old website, what file do I need to upload to have them print the board?

                                  thanks for any help

                                  rPi 3 - UNO R3 - Mini - Nano - custom

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                                  • badmannenB badmannen

                                    can someone tell me if I can find Version 2 on the new site: http://dangerousprototypes.com/store/pcbs
                                    ?

                                    I never ordered any pcb´s like this before so I don´t want to get it wrong =D.
                                    If the models are not there to choose from unlike the old website, what file do I need to upload to have them print the board?

                                    thanks for any help

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                                    hek
                                    Admin
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #329

                                    @badmannen

                                    @m26872 has prepared for ordering this board directly on openhardware.io. Easy and you give something back to him.

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                                      #330

                                      Received mine from DirtyPCBs - I just wanted to test the whole system. I guess my first question is: how do you guys break them apart? Since tthey come in 3-circuits-per-board with little holes.
                                      I don't want to ruin them! :)

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                                      • hugowsH hugows

                                        Received mine from DirtyPCBs - I just wanted to test the whole system. I guess my first question is: how do you guys break them apart? Since tthey come in 3-circuits-per-board with little holes.
                                        I don't want to ruin them! :)

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                                        m26872
                                        Hardware Contributor
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #331

                                        @hugows
                                        https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/2067/my-slim-2aa-battery-node/273

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                                          #332

                                          Thanks, it worked!
                                          Sorry that I couldn't find the post you linked..

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