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  • carlierdC Offline
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    carlierd
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    #124

    Hello,

    After several weeks I finally succeed to create a dedicated PCB ! It was started yesterday evening and works fine.

    Some pictures:
    0_1469782265724_Photo 1.jpg
    0_1469782279459_Photo 2.jpg
    0_1469782286758_Photo 3.jpg

    Measure is reported each two hours. So I expect more than two years on a CR2032 (using @GertSanders firmware).

    I can off course provide any information as PCB.

    Thanks @mfalkvidd for the idea and the code. The project is now WAF ;)

    David.

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    • Fat FlyF Offline
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      Fat Fly
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      #125

      Great. Nothing to say. But i need build this. 10 pcs first time. :) I live in farm or how to right say in english. With rubber boots from the land ?

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      • Lukács AttilaL Offline
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        Lukács Attila
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        #126

        Is it possible to purchase it somewhere? :)

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        • Fat FlyF Offline
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          Fat Fly
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          #127

          Why not mastered it self ?

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          • Fat FlyF Offline
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            Fat Fly
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            #128

            Yesterday my sensor reported moisture 80% but soil was very wet. Thoughts.

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            • Fat FlyF Fat Fly

              Yesterday my sensor reported moisture 80% but soil was very wet. Thoughts.

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              mfalkvidd
              Mod
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              #129

              @Fat-Fly that is normal. Did you expect something else? If so, what did you expect?

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              • Fat FlyF Fat Fly

                Yesterday my sensor reported moisture 80% but soil was very wet. Thoughts.

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                #130

                @Fat-Fly
                I have sensors that report 25-35% and they are still not dry.
                I water for 10-20 min and they report 40%, sometimes 45%. But I know that when they report 25% it starts to be time to water.

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                  @Fat-Fly
                  I have sensors that report 25-35% and they are still not dry.
                  I water for 10-20 min and they report 40%, sometimes 45%. But I know that when they report 25% it starts to be time to water.

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                  Mod
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #131

                  @flopp the level reported will depend on the following things (maybe more):

                  • the pullup resistor - varies between different arduinos
                  • the soil composition - varies between different pots
                  • the temperature - varies throughout the day

                  That means it is impossible to compare readings from two different Arduinos in the same pot and it is impossible to compare readings from different pots using the same Arduino.

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                  • mfalkviddM mfalkvidd

                    @flopp the level reported will depend on the following things (maybe more):

                    • the pullup resistor - varies between different arduinos
                    • the soil composition - varies between different pots
                    • the temperature - varies throughout the day

                    That means it is impossible to compare readings from two different Arduinos in the same pot and it is impossible to compare readings from different pots using the same Arduino.

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                    flopp
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                    #132

                    @mfalkvidd
                    Thanks

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                    • Fat FlyF Offline
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                      Fat Fly
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                      #133

                      From temp varies moisture level and from fertilizer too. At the bottom of the bucket was more. Yesterday i install moisture sensor to the greenhouse. Level was 60-70%. This is normal if i check with finger. :). Today i try drive relays and water pump.
                      0_1470039173699_34c652b1-4f64-42a6-9ffd-f41f8e3964ca.jpg

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                      • NetRapN Offline
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                        NetRap
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                        #134

                        This sort of sensor is not good, because the electrolyticeffect.
                        You always should use soil sensors, which are based on the capacitive effect.

                        Like this one:
                        https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/4474/capacitive-soilsensor-for-measurement-the-humidity-of-flowers

                        Best regards,
                        NetRap

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                          #135

                          My sensors is not good yes. I do not understand what is soil moisture % really. :( My pepper was overwatering. Very wet and moisture was 80% only.

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                          • NetRapN NetRap

                            This sort of sensor is not good, because the electrolyticeffect.
                            You always should use soil sensors, which are based on the capacitive effect.

                            Like this one:
                            https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/4474/capacitive-soilsensor-for-measurement-the-humidity-of-flowers

                            Best regards,
                            NetRap

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                            Mod
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                            #136

                            @NetRap there are downsides but "no good" is incorrect. I have used these sensors successfully for almost a year.

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                              NetRap
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                              #137

                              The problem is, that your design is based on conductivity.
                              This means, that the electrodes will be destroyed over time
                              and the produced metal salts are in your flower,garden,...

                              I don't will have metal salts in my tomatoes !!! ;-)

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                              • NetRapN NetRap

                                The problem is, that your design is based on conductivity.
                                This means, that the electrodes will be destroyed over time
                                and the produced metal salts are in your flower,garden,...

                                I don't will have metal salts in my tomatoes !!! ;-)

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                                #138

                                @NetRap I doubt that one second of 3V electric power every hour (0.03% duty cycle) will produce measurable amount of salt but yes, for food production capacitive measurements are probably better. The topic of this thread is "office plant monitoring" though and I hope you don't have to live off your office plants :)

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                                  m26872
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                                  #139

                                  "Metal salts" doesn't sound very dangerous unless you're more specific. I prefer some NaCl on my tomatoes.

                                  How about some gold- or silver plated electrodes if you're of the worrying kind?

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                                    #140

                                    I want to try electrodes from stainless steel.

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                                      Lars65
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                                      #141

                                      Normaly when you use eletricity and water, you need to sacrify something. For an example, when you cool a boat engine with water, you normaly use zinkanodes. I guess this is also the same when we want to messure humidity for an plant.
                                      So, if you should use copper anodes for messuring, you could paint them with a zink color.
                                      What it effects the resistance, I don't know.

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                                        Fat Fly
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                                        #142

                                        Maybe in scketch needed change measure time? Maybe need use function round ?

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                                          LastSamurai
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                                          @mfalkvidd Short question concerning battery life: I am using a custom board with an atmega328 and an nrf powered directly by a coin cell. When measuring temp/hum with something like an SHT21 the voltage drops are minimal (less than 100mV in more than a month). Using your sketch from post 25 here and connecting the fork to pins A1 and 2 (changed that in the sketch) I get a much higher power consumption. Any ideas why?
                                          I guess the measuring takes too long or something? It also reports lots of 1% changes to my domoticz server... which is kind of strange. Shouldn't the threshold take care of that? Perhaps I have to use a higher value here...

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