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  • clivecC Offline
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    clivec
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    #121

    Thought I would throw this in the pot
    Why not change the sensor Probe ?? no credit to me , just was googleing as you do,
    Home made sensors I think less prone to corrosion
    here's the link

    http://www.cheapvegetablegardener.com/how-to-make-cheap-soil-moisture-sensor-2/

    Had some seeds from very tasty tomatoes last year ,have planted and this year growing like tiffids !!
    Getting quite big so have move from kitchen to Greenhouse ASP really
    Will try with this type of sensor

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    • clivecC clivec

      Thought I would throw this in the pot
      Why not change the sensor Probe ?? no credit to me , just was googleing as you do,
      Home made sensors I think less prone to corrosion
      here's the link

      http://www.cheapvegetablegardener.com/how-to-make-cheap-soil-moisture-sensor-2/

      Had some seeds from very tasty tomatoes last year ,have planted and this year growing like tiffids !!
      Getting quite big so have move from kitchen to Greenhouse ASP really
      Will try with this type of sensor

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      mfalkvidd
      Mod
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      #122

      @mutantx nice idea, thanks for sharing!

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      • Fat FlyF Offline
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        Fat Fly
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        #123

        I build moisture sensors from stainless wire. If this in pot at a depth of 1 inch domoticz reported 83% of moistre level.Real plant was dry and needed watering. I put moisture level on the soil

        0_1468159204580_IMG_4526.JPG

        and sensor reported moisture level 43%. I test and put moisture sensor to the soil at depth 1 inch

        0_1468159222643_IMG_4527.JPG

        Sensor reported moisture level 96%.

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        • carlierdC Offline
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          #124

          Hello,

          After several weeks I finally succeed to create a dedicated PCB ! It was started yesterday evening and works fine.

          Some pictures:
          0_1469782265724_Photo 1.jpg
          0_1469782279459_Photo 2.jpg
          0_1469782286758_Photo 3.jpg

          Measure is reported each two hours. So I expect more than two years on a CR2032 (using @GertSanders firmware).

          I can off course provide any information as PCB.

          Thanks @mfalkvidd for the idea and the code. The project is now WAF ;)

          David.

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          • Fat FlyF Offline
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            Fat Fly
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            #125

            Great. Nothing to say. But i need build this. 10 pcs first time. :) I live in farm or how to right say in english. With rubber boots from the land ?

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            • Lukács AttilaL Offline
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              Lukács Attila
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              #126

              Is it possible to purchase it somewhere? :)

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              • Fat FlyF Offline
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                Fat Fly
                wrote on last edited by
                #127

                Why not mastered it self ?

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                • Fat FlyF Offline
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                  Fat Fly
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                  #128

                  Yesterday my sensor reported moisture 80% but soil was very wet. Thoughts.

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                  • Fat FlyF Fat Fly

                    Yesterday my sensor reported moisture 80% but soil was very wet. Thoughts.

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                    mfalkvidd
                    Mod
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #129

                    @Fat-Fly that is normal. Did you expect something else? If so, what did you expect?

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                    • Fat FlyF Fat Fly

                      Yesterday my sensor reported moisture 80% but soil was very wet. Thoughts.

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                      flopp
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                      #130

                      @Fat-Fly
                      I have sensors that report 25-35% and they are still not dry.
                      I water for 10-20 min and they report 40%, sometimes 45%. But I know that when they report 25% it starts to be time to water.

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                        @Fat-Fly
                        I have sensors that report 25-35% and they are still not dry.
                        I water for 10-20 min and they report 40%, sometimes 45%. But I know that when they report 25% it starts to be time to water.

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                        Mod
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #131

                        @flopp the level reported will depend on the following things (maybe more):

                        • the pullup resistor - varies between different arduinos
                        • the soil composition - varies between different pots
                        • the temperature - varies throughout the day

                        That means it is impossible to compare readings from two different Arduinos in the same pot and it is impossible to compare readings from different pots using the same Arduino.

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                        • mfalkviddM mfalkvidd

                          @flopp the level reported will depend on the following things (maybe more):

                          • the pullup resistor - varies between different arduinos
                          • the soil composition - varies between different pots
                          • the temperature - varies throughout the day

                          That means it is impossible to compare readings from two different Arduinos in the same pot and it is impossible to compare readings from different pots using the same Arduino.

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                          flopp
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #132

                          @mfalkvidd
                          Thanks

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                          • Fat FlyF Offline
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                            Fat Fly
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #133

                            From temp varies moisture level and from fertilizer too. At the bottom of the bucket was more. Yesterday i install moisture sensor to the greenhouse. Level was 60-70%. This is normal if i check with finger. :). Today i try drive relays and water pump.
                            0_1470039173699_34c652b1-4f64-42a6-9ffd-f41f8e3964ca.jpg

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                            • NetRapN Offline
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                              #134

                              This sort of sensor is not good, because the electrolyticeffect.
                              You always should use soil sensors, which are based on the capacitive effect.

                              Like this one:
                              https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/4474/capacitive-soilsensor-for-measurement-the-humidity-of-flowers

                              Best regards,
                              NetRap

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                              • Fat FlyF Offline
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                                #135

                                My sensors is not good yes. I do not understand what is soil moisture % really. :( My pepper was overwatering. Very wet and moisture was 80% only.

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                                • NetRapN NetRap

                                  This sort of sensor is not good, because the electrolyticeffect.
                                  You always should use soil sensors, which are based on the capacitive effect.

                                  Like this one:
                                  https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/4474/capacitive-soilsensor-for-measurement-the-humidity-of-flowers

                                  Best regards,
                                  NetRap

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                                  Mod
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #136

                                  @NetRap there are downsides but "no good" is incorrect. I have used these sensors successfully for almost a year.

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                                    NetRap
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                                    #137

                                    The problem is, that your design is based on conductivity.
                                    This means, that the electrodes will be destroyed over time
                                    and the produced metal salts are in your flower,garden,...

                                    I don't will have metal salts in my tomatoes !!! ;-)

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                                    • NetRapN NetRap

                                      The problem is, that your design is based on conductivity.
                                      This means, that the electrodes will be destroyed over time
                                      and the produced metal salts are in your flower,garden,...

                                      I don't will have metal salts in my tomatoes !!! ;-)

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                                      Mod
                                      wrote on last edited by mfalkvidd
                                      #138

                                      @NetRap I doubt that one second of 3V electric power every hour (0.03% duty cycle) will produce measurable amount of salt but yes, for food production capacitive measurements are probably better. The topic of this thread is "office plant monitoring" though and I hope you don't have to live off your office plants :)

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                                        m26872
                                        Hardware Contributor
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                                        #139

                                        "Metal salts" doesn't sound very dangerous unless you're more specific. I prefer some NaCl on my tomatoes.

                                        How about some gold- or silver plated electrodes if you're of the worrying kind?

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                                        • Fat FlyF Offline
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                                          #140

                                          I want to try electrodes from stainless steel.

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