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Controlling LEDs with the IRLZ44N

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  • OitzuO Offline
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    Oitzu
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    I have both the irfz44n and the irlz44n laying around. So this is not the case.

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      TimO
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      I'm using an IRLZ to switch some LEDs with 9 V. The Arduino is running with 5 V.
      Here is an extract of my schematics:

      upload-baad054c-6a52-4c8a-bb29-690ef053213f

      Source is connected to GND.
      Gate is connected to PIN D5 on Arduino
      Drain is connected to LED (GND).

      So: +9V --> LED Device --> Drain on IRLZ --> GND.

      Works for me. :-)

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        @TimO said:

        I'm using an IRLZ to switch some LEDs with 9 V. The Arduino is running with 5 V.
        Works for me. :-)

        Well yeah, the IRLZ works clearly saturated with the 5V gate voltage.
        But shouldn't it also saturated with a gate voltage of 3.3V? The datasheet states a Vgs(th) of 1.0V - 2.0V.
        And Fig 1. specifies ID (Drain to Source Current) of nearly 19A @ 3.3V VGS (Gate to Source Voltage) / 10V VDS (Drain to Source Voltage).

        Sooo... at which point i'm reading the datasheet wrong? :/

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          @TimO said:

          I'm using an IRLZ to switch some LEDs with 9 V. The Arduino is running with 5 V.
          Works for me. :-)

          Well yeah, the IRLZ works clearly saturated with the 5V gate voltage.
          But shouldn't it also saturated with a gate voltage of 3.3V? The datasheet states a Vgs(th) of 1.0V - 2.0V.
          And Fig 1. specifies ID (Drain to Source Current) of nearly 19A @ 3.3V VGS (Gate to Source Voltage) / 10V VDS (Drain to Source Voltage).

          Sooo... at which point i'm reading the datasheet wrong? :/

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          AWI
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          @Oitzu I have the IRLZ44n saturated at a little more than 2V, so maybe a misprint on a IRFZ44 package... ?

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          • OitzuO Oitzu

            @TimO said:

            I'm using an IRLZ to switch some LEDs with 9 V. The Arduino is running with 5 V.
            Works for me. :-)

            Well yeah, the IRLZ works clearly saturated with the 5V gate voltage.
            But shouldn't it also saturated with a gate voltage of 3.3V? The datasheet states a Vgs(th) of 1.0V - 2.0V.
            And Fig 1. specifies ID (Drain to Source Current) of nearly 19A @ 3.3V VGS (Gate to Source Voltage) / 10V VDS (Drain to Source Voltage).

            Sooo... at which point i'm reading the datasheet wrong? :/

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            Samuel235
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            @Oitzu - Sorry to dig up an old threat, however i'm about to create a dimmer module with the mosfet in question here, an IRLZ44N, planning on switching using 3.3V. I will be creating a thread for the module as per usual with all of my creations, and i will be sure to inform this thread with my findings. If you do not hear anything from me, please remind me.

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            • S Samuel235

              @Oitzu - Sorry to dig up an old threat, however i'm about to create a dimmer module with the mosfet in question here, an IRLZ44N, planning on switching using 3.3V. I will be creating a thread for the module as per usual with all of my creations, and i will be sure to inform this thread with my findings. If you do not hear anything from me, please remind me.

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              mfalkvidd
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              @Samuel235 thanks for digging it up. I had the same problem in https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/4350/irlz44n-not-fully-open-using-3-3v-arduino/ but didn't see this thread.

              I ended up using a logic level converter in my kitchen light and a 5V Arduino for my wife's mirror. The leds would not shine bright when using 3.3V on the IRLZ44N.

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                @Samuel235 thanks for digging it up. I had the same problem in https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/4350/irlz44n-not-fully-open-using-3-3v-arduino/ but didn't see this thread.

                I ended up using a logic level converter in my kitchen light and a 5V Arduino for my wife's mirror. The leds would not shine bright when using 3.3V on the IRLZ44N.

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                @mfalkvidd - May i ask where you purchased the MOSFET in question from, ebay or aliexpress by any chance?

                Following the datasheet the MOSFET should allow way over 2A when the gate is at 3.3V. However there is talks about it working properly/opening fully when a chinese copy/fake MOSFET is used.

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                  @mfalkvidd - May i ask where you purchased the MOSFET in question from, ebay or aliexpress by any chance?

                  Following the datasheet the MOSFET should allow way over 2A when the gate is at 3.3V. However there is talks about it working properly/opening fully when a chinese copy/fake MOSFET is used.

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                  mfalkvidd
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                  @Samuel235 I bought this
                  I should probably have used the seller recommended by the MySensor store :)

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                  • mfalkviddM mfalkvidd

                    @Samuel235 I bought this
                    I should probably have used the seller recommended by the MySensor store :)

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                    Samuel235
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                    @mfalkvidd - I very rarely do use the store to be honest, so we will see what my mosfets are like. If i have an order to a proper/genuine supplier i will get some ordered from there too and compare.

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                      I wonder if i ever solved this. :D
                      I remember i began drawing a schematic in KiCAD. Maybe i should look if i will find this and which mosfet i used in the schematic.

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                      • OitzuO Oitzu

                        I wonder if i ever solved this. :D
                        I remember i began drawing a schematic in KiCAD. Maybe i should look if i will find this and which mosfet i used in the schematic.

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                        Samuel235
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                        @Oitzu - From the information in the past replies and your original post i thought you was using the IRLZ44N....

                        If you did get this working, attempt to find the part you used please.

                        I will order some genuine version from Farnell(Element 14) and compare the success to that of the Aliexpress version.

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