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  • sinczeS sincze

    @sundberg84 Strange thing is.. If I unplug the temp cable from the PCB and plug it into the NANO the sketch detects the sensor. The exact same sketch on the mini says "0 sensors found" as I just print the number of sensors detected.
    For debugging purposes If I would solder the resistor on the PCB and I have a different temp sensor with resistor within the cabling. Would that hurt (double resistors) ?
    Would I have to look for a specific voltage between D3 and GND ?

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    wrote on last edited by sundberg84
    #185

    @sincze - so it sounds like you have issues between pcb connector and A0 pin on the atmega328. You could try to do a continuitytest between that - and check soldering job on the MysX connector and on the back on the pro mini (A0)

    0_1510823476205_upload-31f0d5a6-9fc8-42a1-bf58-2a6d7f490457

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    • sundberg84S sundberg84

      @sincze - so it sounds like you have issues between pcb connector and A0 pin on the atmega328. You could try to do a continuitytest between that - and check soldering job on the MysX connector and on the back on the pro mini (A0)

      0_1510823476205_upload-31f0d5a6-9fc8-42a1-bf58-2a6d7f490457

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      sincze
      MySensors Evangelist
      wrote on last edited by
      #186

      @sundberg84 Just for the check A0 or D3 (temp sensor)?
      As A0 is working, I have a relais attached to it. ;)

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      • sinczeS sincze

        @sundberg84 Just for the check A0 or D3 (temp sensor)?
        As A0 is working, I have a relais attached to it. ;)

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        wrote on last edited by
        #187

        @sincze sorry - my misstake, D3 offcourse. You can do if from D3 on the MysX connector to D3 on the atmega chip. D3 on the cjip is the upper left pin on the image.

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        • sundberg84S sundberg84

          @sincze sorry - my misstake, D3 offcourse. You can do if from D3 on the MysX connector to D3 on the atmega chip. D3 on the cjip is the upper left pin on the image.

          0_1510831452813_upload-0d859cac-e93c-40ad-9f2f-f68ddcd6fdeb

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          wrote on last edited by sincze
          #188

          @sundberg84 yes, I have a 'beep' pffffff would a double resistor hurt ?? 1 on pcb the other one in the cable?
          I tried connecting it directly to pin 3 on the arduino, no detection, I tried replacing the resistor. nothing. I tried a different temp sensors.. No detection. I moved the new temp sensor to the nano... detected.
          I tried an empty Dallas temp only sketch on the mini... no detection. Well Now I'm lost ;-)

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          • sinczeS sincze

            @sundberg84 yes, I have a 'beep' pffffff would a double resistor hurt ?? 1 on pcb the other one in the cable?
            I tried connecting it directly to pin 3 on the arduino, no detection, I tried replacing the resistor. nothing. I tried a different temp sensors.. No detection. I moved the new temp sensor to the nano... detected.
            I tried an empty Dallas temp only sketch on the mini... no detection. Well Now I'm lost ;-)

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            wrote on last edited by
            #189

            @sincze Can you possibly send pictures with how you have it connected both on the nano and on the mini? I am thinking that it is something obvious that is being missed.

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            • sinczeS sincze

              @sundberg84 yes, I have a 'beep' pffffff would a double resistor hurt ?? 1 on pcb the other one in the cable?
              I tried connecting it directly to pin 3 on the arduino, no detection, I tried replacing the resistor. nothing. I tried a different temp sensors.. No detection. I moved the new temp sensor to the nano... detected.
              I tried an empty Dallas temp only sketch on the mini... no detection. Well Now I'm lost ;-)

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              wrote on last edited by
              #190

              @sincze - and you use the right power source on the PCB? (VCC = 5v and 3.3v = Well... 3.3v) Please send pictures of both setup as mentioned.

              Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
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              MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
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                #191

                Hi Sundberg84,

                I have some v8 and now enough time for playing.
                I setup with v3.3 2xAA, booster, NRF24, simple door sensor or DHT.
                1-2 week and the batteries are discharged, I hear little buzz from the mini or other components.
                This is the 2nd built where I meet this problem.
                Do you have any idea what component is the failed ?
                thanks
                Barna

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                  #192

                  Did you remove the regulator and LED from the pro mini? Have you tried a different booster?

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                  • BarnaB Barna

                    Hi Sundberg84,

                    I have some v8 and now enough time for playing.
                    I setup with v3.3 2xAA, booster, NRF24, simple door sensor or DHT.
                    1-2 week and the batteries are discharged, I hear little buzz from the mini or other components.
                    This is the 2nd built where I meet this problem.
                    Do you have any idea what component is the failed ?
                    thanks
                    Barna

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                    #193

                    @Barna as @gohan said I suspect the booster as well. A small buzz is normally from that hardware.
                    Also did you implement sleep() ?

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                    • sundberg84S sundberg84

                      @Barna as @gohan said I suspect the booster as well. A small buzz is normally from that hardware.
                      Also did you implement sleep() ?

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                      #194

                      @sundberg84 this is not normal buzz, stronger than before.
                      I have used this source only: https://www.ebay.com/itm/mini-DC-DC-0-8-3-3V-to-DC-3-3V-Step-UP-Boost-Power-Module-For-Breadboard-Arduino-/281556288481?hash=item418e1003e1
                      which another part could make the buzz ?
                      yes, I use sleep
                      sleep(1, CHANGE, SLEEP_TIME); SLEEP_TIME is 900000 , but the node does not wake up and send the battery status, only when door sensor changes.
                      No, I have not removed the led and regulator, this is the testing period only :)

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                        #195

                        Those draw quite some energy, you'd better remove them and see from there

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                        • BarnaB Barna

                          Hi Sundberg84,

                          I have some v8 and now enough time for playing.
                          I setup with v3.3 2xAA, booster, NRF24, simple door sensor or DHT.
                          1-2 week and the batteries are discharged, I hear little buzz from the mini or other components.
                          This is the 2nd built where I meet this problem.
                          Do you have any idea what component is the failed ?
                          thanks
                          Barna

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                          dbemowsk
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #196

                          @Barna What if you used a setup like this:
                          0_1510936047717_upload-c0db2caa-660d-4a18-a9a9-c9c2cf96935c
                          The 3volt tap can be used to power the arduino, and the DHT can be run from the 4.5v. With that you wouldn't need the step up booster.

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                          • sundberg84S sundberg84

                            @sincze - and you use the right power source on the PCB? (VCC = 5v and 3.3v = Well... 3.3v) Please send pictures of both setup as mentioned.

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                            MySensors Evangelist
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #197

                            @sundberg84 @dbemowsk Thank you guys for still trying to help me. I almost gave up on using a Dallas Termp sensor o n a pro mini. As said I even tried connecting the temp sensor directly to the pins with same results. If I connect the pins to my nano, it is being detected and transmitting temp values. I even used a different sketch.. Just for the temp sensor. link found_here. Changed it to use Pin 3 ofcourse. I even connected the whole thing to D2 (resistor back in the wires)... without being succesful either.

                            0_1510938558966_Dallas Not Detected.png

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                            • sinczeS sincze

                              @sundberg84 @dbemowsk Thank you guys for still trying to help me. I almost gave up on using a Dallas Termp sensor o n a pro mini. As said I even tried connecting the temp sensor directly to the pins with same results. If I connect the pins to my nano, it is being detected and transmitting temp values. I even used a different sketch.. Just for the temp sensor. link found_here. Changed it to use Pin 3 ofcourse. I even connected the whole thing to D2 (resistor back in the wires)... without being succesful either.

                              0_1510938558966_Dallas Not Detected.png

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                              wrote on last edited by
                              #198

                              @sincze Are you sure you sure you got correct power on the GND and VCC pins on the MySX connector?

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                              • dbemowskD dbemowsk

                                @sincze Are you sure you sure you got correct power on the GND and VCC pins on the MySX connector?

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                                sincze
                                MySensors Evangelist
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #199

                                @dbemowsk I had those thoughts as well.
                                0_1510946155798_Dallas Voltage.png
                                The voltage should be okay. I can solder a new Arduino Pro Mini and see if that one wants to work with me ;-)

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                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #200

                                  Dallas temp sensors needs 3.3v VCC if I remember right. Not 5v.

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                                  • sundberg84S sundberg84

                                    Dallas temp sensors needs 3.3v VCC if I remember right. Not 5v.

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                                    wrote on last edited by sincze
                                    #201

                                    @sundberg84 haha yes i was wondering that myself so tried it connecting it to 3,3v as well. However on the 5v nano working just fine. Technical specs tell me: Power supply range is 3.0V to 5.5V
                                    also mysensors link
                                    Pretty strange huh.

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                                    • sinczeS sincze

                                      @sundberg84 haha yes i was wondering that myself so tried it connecting it to 3,3v as well. However on the 5v nano working just fine. Technical specs tell me: Power supply range is 3.0V to 5.5V
                                      also mysensors link
                                      Pretty strange huh.

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                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #202

                                      @sincze my mistake. Really strange this... Should work just fine. Can you upload a better resolution picture of your hardware and the sketch you are using?

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                                      MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
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                                      • sinczeS sincze

                                        @sundberg84 haha yes i was wondering that myself so tried it connecting it to 3,3v as well. However on the 5v nano working just fine. Technical specs tell me: Power supply range is 3.0V to 5.5V
                                        also mysensors link
                                        Pretty strange huh.

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                                        #203

                                        @sincze I have 10 of these DS18B20s strung over approximately 12m monitoring all rooms on both floors of my house and two side lofts, all running on 3.22v from a Pro-Mini. Never have skipped a beat, reporting every 5 minutes, well, aside from a telephone socket which pins went walkabout (the chips are crimped to RJ11s).
                                        There is something not right with the physical arrangement if you can get the same circuit to report at 5v...

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                                        • sundberg84S sundberg84

                                          @sincze my mistake. Really strange this... Should work just fine. Can you upload a better resolution picture of your hardware and the sketch you are using?

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                                          MySensors Evangelist
                                          wrote on last edited by sincze
                                          #204

                                          @sundberg84 I just soldered a myself a new out of the box pro mini using the same sketch..

                                          10246 TSF:MSG:SEND,8-8-25-0,s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=4,st=OK:21.0
                                          250560 TSF:MSG:SEND,8-8-25-0,s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:21.1
                                          255019 TSF:MSG:SEND,8-8-25-0,s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:22.3
                                          259476 TSF:MSG:SEND,8-8-25-0,s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:23.8
                                          263934 TSF:MSG:SEND,8-8-25-0,s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:25.3
                                          268393 TSF:MSG:SEND,8-8-25-0,s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:26.5
                                          272851 TSF:MSG:SEND,8-8-25-0,s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:27.6
                                          277310 TSF:MSG:SEND,8-8-25-0,s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:28.1
                                          281768 TSF:MSG:SEND,8-8-25-0,s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:28.4
                                          290677 TSF:MSG:SEND,8-8-25-0,s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:28.3
                                          295136 TSF:MSG:SEND,8-8-25-0,s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:28.1
                                          299594 TSF:MSG:SEND,8-8-25-0,s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:27.8
                                          304053 TSF:MSG:SEND,8-8-25-0,s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:27.6
                                          308511 TSF:MSG:SEND,8-8-25-0,s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:27.3
                                          312970 TSF:MSG:SEND,8-8-25-0,s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:27.1
                                          317428 TSF:MSG:SEND,8-8-25-0,s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:26.8
                                          321887 TSF:MSG:SEND,8-8-25-0,s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:26.6
                                          326345 TSF:MSG:SEND,8-8-25-0,s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:26.4

                                          Victory... :)

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