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  • sinczeS sincze

    @sundberg84 yes, I have a 'beep' pffffff would a double resistor hurt ?? 1 on pcb the other one in the cable?
    I tried connecting it directly to pin 3 on the arduino, no detection, I tried replacing the resistor. nothing. I tried a different temp sensors.. No detection. I moved the new temp sensor to the nano... detected.
    I tried an empty Dallas temp only sketch on the mini... no detection. Well Now I'm lost ;-)

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    @sincze - and you use the right power source on the PCB? (VCC = 5v and 3.3v = Well... 3.3v) Please send pictures of both setup as mentioned.

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    MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
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      #191

      Hi Sundberg84,

      I have some v8 and now enough time for playing.
      I setup with v3.3 2xAA, booster, NRF24, simple door sensor or DHT.
      1-2 week and the batteries are discharged, I hear little buzz from the mini or other components.
      This is the 2nd built where I meet this problem.
      Do you have any idea what component is the failed ?
      thanks
      Barna

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        #192

        Did you remove the regulator and LED from the pro mini? Have you tried a different booster?

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        • BarnaB Barna

          Hi Sundberg84,

          I have some v8 and now enough time for playing.
          I setup with v3.3 2xAA, booster, NRF24, simple door sensor or DHT.
          1-2 week and the batteries are discharged, I hear little buzz from the mini or other components.
          This is the 2nd built where I meet this problem.
          Do you have any idea what component is the failed ?
          thanks
          Barna

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          Hardware Contributor
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          #193

          @Barna as @gohan said I suspect the booster as well. A small buzz is normally from that hardware.
          Also did you implement sleep() ?

          Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
          MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
          MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
          RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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          • sundberg84S sundberg84

            @Barna as @gohan said I suspect the booster as well. A small buzz is normally from that hardware.
            Also did you implement sleep() ?

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            #194

            @sundberg84 this is not normal buzz, stronger than before.
            I have used this source only: https://www.ebay.com/itm/mini-DC-DC-0-8-3-3V-to-DC-3-3V-Step-UP-Boost-Power-Module-For-Breadboard-Arduino-/281556288481?hash=item418e1003e1
            which another part could make the buzz ?
            yes, I use sleep
            sleep(1, CHANGE, SLEEP_TIME); SLEEP_TIME is 900000 , but the node does not wake up and send the battery status, only when door sensor changes.
            No, I have not removed the led and regulator, this is the testing period only :)

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              #195

              Those draw quite some energy, you'd better remove them and see from there

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              • BarnaB Barna

                Hi Sundberg84,

                I have some v8 and now enough time for playing.
                I setup with v3.3 2xAA, booster, NRF24, simple door sensor or DHT.
                1-2 week and the batteries are discharged, I hear little buzz from the mini or other components.
                This is the 2nd built where I meet this problem.
                Do you have any idea what component is the failed ?
                thanks
                Barna

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                #196

                @Barna What if you used a setup like this:
                0_1510936047717_upload-c0db2caa-660d-4a18-a9a9-c9c2cf96935c
                The 3volt tap can be used to power the arduino, and the DHT can be run from the 4.5v. With that you wouldn't need the step up booster.

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                • sundberg84S sundberg84

                  @sincze - and you use the right power source on the PCB? (VCC = 5v and 3.3v = Well... 3.3v) Please send pictures of both setup as mentioned.

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                  sincze
                  MySensors Evangelist
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #197

                  @sundberg84 @dbemowsk Thank you guys for still trying to help me. I almost gave up on using a Dallas Termp sensor o n a pro mini. As said I even tried connecting the temp sensor directly to the pins with same results. If I connect the pins to my nano, it is being detected and transmitting temp values. I even used a different sketch.. Just for the temp sensor. link found_here. Changed it to use Pin 3 ofcourse. I even connected the whole thing to D2 (resistor back in the wires)... without being succesful either.

                  0_1510938558966_Dallas Not Detected.png

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                  • sinczeS sincze

                    @sundberg84 @dbemowsk Thank you guys for still trying to help me. I almost gave up on using a Dallas Termp sensor o n a pro mini. As said I even tried connecting the temp sensor directly to the pins with same results. If I connect the pins to my nano, it is being detected and transmitting temp values. I even used a different sketch.. Just for the temp sensor. link found_here. Changed it to use Pin 3 ofcourse. I even connected the whole thing to D2 (resistor back in the wires)... without being succesful either.

                    0_1510938558966_Dallas Not Detected.png

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                    @sincze Are you sure you sure you got correct power on the GND and VCC pins on the MySX connector?

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                    • dbemowskD dbemowsk

                      @sincze Are you sure you sure you got correct power on the GND and VCC pins on the MySX connector?

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                      sincze
                      MySensors Evangelist
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #199

                      @dbemowsk I had those thoughts as well.
                      0_1510946155798_Dallas Voltage.png
                      The voltage should be okay. I can solder a new Arduino Pro Mini and see if that one wants to work with me ;-)

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                        sundberg84
                        Hardware Contributor
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #200

                        Dallas temp sensors needs 3.3v VCC if I remember right. Not 5v.

                        Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                        MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                        MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                        RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                        • sundberg84S sundberg84

                          Dallas temp sensors needs 3.3v VCC if I remember right. Not 5v.

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                          sincze
                          MySensors Evangelist
                          wrote on last edited by sincze
                          #201

                          @sundberg84 haha yes i was wondering that myself so tried it connecting it to 3,3v as well. However on the 5v nano working just fine. Technical specs tell me: Power supply range is 3.0V to 5.5V
                          also mysensors link
                          Pretty strange huh.

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                          • sinczeS sincze

                            @sundberg84 haha yes i was wondering that myself so tried it connecting it to 3,3v as well. However on the 5v nano working just fine. Technical specs tell me: Power supply range is 3.0V to 5.5V
                            also mysensors link
                            Pretty strange huh.

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                            wrote on last edited by
                            #202

                            @sincze my mistake. Really strange this... Should work just fine. Can you upload a better resolution picture of your hardware and the sketch you are using?

                            Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                            MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                            MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                            RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                            • sinczeS sincze

                              @sundberg84 haha yes i was wondering that myself so tried it connecting it to 3,3v as well. However on the 5v nano working just fine. Technical specs tell me: Power supply range is 3.0V to 5.5V
                              also mysensors link
                              Pretty strange huh.

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                              #203

                              @sincze I have 10 of these DS18B20s strung over approximately 12m monitoring all rooms on both floors of my house and two side lofts, all running on 3.22v from a Pro-Mini. Never have skipped a beat, reporting every 5 minutes, well, aside from a telephone socket which pins went walkabout (the chips are crimped to RJ11s).
                              There is something not right with the physical arrangement if you can get the same circuit to report at 5v...

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                              • sundberg84S sundberg84

                                @sincze my mistake. Really strange this... Should work just fine. Can you upload a better resolution picture of your hardware and the sketch you are using?

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                                sincze
                                MySensors Evangelist
                                wrote on last edited by sincze
                                #204

                                @sundberg84 I just soldered a myself a new out of the box pro mini using the same sketch..

                                10246 TSF:MSG:SEND,8-8-25-0,s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=4,st=OK:21.0
                                250560 TSF:MSG:SEND,8-8-25-0,s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:21.1
                                255019 TSF:MSG:SEND,8-8-25-0,s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:22.3
                                259476 TSF:MSG:SEND,8-8-25-0,s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:23.8
                                263934 TSF:MSG:SEND,8-8-25-0,s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:25.3
                                268393 TSF:MSG:SEND,8-8-25-0,s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:26.5
                                272851 TSF:MSG:SEND,8-8-25-0,s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:27.6
                                277310 TSF:MSG:SEND,8-8-25-0,s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:28.1
                                281768 TSF:MSG:SEND,8-8-25-0,s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:28.4
                                290677 TSF:MSG:SEND,8-8-25-0,s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:28.3
                                295136 TSF:MSG:SEND,8-8-25-0,s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:28.1
                                299594 TSF:MSG:SEND,8-8-25-0,s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:27.8
                                304053 TSF:MSG:SEND,8-8-25-0,s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:27.6
                                308511 TSF:MSG:SEND,8-8-25-0,s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:27.3
                                312970 TSF:MSG:SEND,8-8-25-0,s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:27.1
                                317428 TSF:MSG:SEND,8-8-25-0,s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:26.8
                                321887 TSF:MSG:SEND,8-8-25-0,s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:26.6
                                326345 TSF:MSG:SEND,8-8-25-0,s=0,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:26.4

                                Victory... :)

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                                • gohanG Offline
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                                  gohan
                                  Mod
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #205

                                  Was the pro mini defective or just the pin you were using?

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                                  • gohanG gohan

                                    Was the pro mini defective or just the pin you were using?

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                                    sincze
                                    MySensors Evangelist
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #206

                                    @gohan Don't know. Pin3 could be used to drive the led tx without problems. It only did not work with the temp sensors. I moved the temp sensor to d2.... modified the sketch and it did not work as well. and d2 was driveing rx led. So well root cause unknown... solution: solder a new pro mini and keep the other one for different purpose.

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                                    • sinczeS sincze

                                      @gohan Don't know. Pin3 could be used to drive the led tx without problems. It only did not work with the temp sensors. I moved the temp sensor to d2.... modified the sketch and it did not work as well. and d2 was driveing rx led. So well root cause unknown... solution: solder a new pro mini and keep the other one for different purpose.

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                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #207

                                      @sincze Did you use D2+D3 on all the same devices?

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                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #208

                                        I'd try the other digital pins too

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                                        • zboblamontZ zboblamont

                                          @sincze Did you use D2+D3 on all the same devices?

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                                          sincze
                                          MySensors Evangelist
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #209

                                          @zboblamont @gohan The Sensor with the replaced Pro Mini is in production now ;-). I'll start soldering a new Easy/Newbie PCB, because once you know how to do it... it is Easy and test the individual pins with a door/window sensor.

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