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Boiler control from MAX! Cube to Drayton Boiler via Raspberry Pi/Vera/Mysensors.

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  • marogM Offline
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    marog
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    #17

    Hi,
    did any one of you manage to send S: command that works to the cube ?
    I want to control changing the ECO/AUTO mode but i can't.

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      stephenmhall
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      #18

      The eco auto message is the one I have yet to find as well. I wondered if pressing it while the MAX software is connected would save a copy of the message in the logs

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        I read few documentation and finnaly I manage to post something that is understood by the Cube. I got short python3 script

        import socket
        import binascii
        
        def getBits(value):
            return "{0:b}".format(value)
        
        def toHex(value):
            return hex(int(value,2))
        
        def get_S_String(rfAddress, roomId, temp=None, mode=None):
            if temp:
                msgH = toHex(getBits(int(int(temp) * 2)))[2:]
            else:
                msgH = mode
            cmdStr = "00 04 40 00 00 00 " + rfAddress.lower() + " " + roomId + " " + msgH
            base = binascii.b2a_base64(binascii.unhexlify(cmdStr.replace(" ","")))
            return "s:" + base.decode() + "\r\n"
        
        def send_raw_data(host, port, data):
            s = socket.socket(socket.AF_INET, socket.SOCK_STREAM)
            s.connect((host, port))
            s.settimeout(2)
            return s.send(data.encode())
        
        host = "10.0.0.110"
        port = 62910
        
        address = "12E023"
        room = "02"
        
        address = "126010"
        room = "01"
        
        temp = "14"
        ## auto MODE
        x = get_S_String(address, room, mode="00")
        print(x)
        ## setup MANUAL temp
        #x = get_S_String(address, room, temp)
        #print(x)
        
        send_raw_data(host, port, x)
        
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        • p_battinoP Offline
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          p_battino
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          #20

          Stephen the work you have done is fantastic !

          This is very useful for everybody using a MAX! Cube, regardless of the Vera. As you can read in the comments (and on other sites) the main missing feature with the MAX! Cube is a direct link with the boiler, in order to have the boiler running only when at least one valve requires it.
          I strongly suggest you to work in this direction, and provide example on how to switch on/off the boiler from the Raspberry Pi directly (either wired or wireless link) when needed.
          Also, you instructions in installation.txt worked fine for me but it took me a while to find them and "decode" them. First I would suggest to explicitly point to that file from README.md and second to explain what's the NeoPixel thing. I still don't know, I just assumed it could work without it but I wonder what it is.

          For those of you still wonder whether the MAX! Cube is worth its money: yes yes yes! I've never found such a good solution for that price! It gave me all I need and, with Stephen's code, it's more than I can dream of.

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          • sebgudekS sebgudek

            Hi, This is all very interesting. I bought the MAX! System 2 months ago and only one thing is missing is to control my boiler when there is no heating demand from my zones. What do I need to do to make it all work and is there any way I can access your system to control it ? What do I need to buy to make it all work like you have, please?

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            p_battino
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            @Lawrence-Helm they are not noisy to me but you can hear them if there's silence in the house. Noise it's very subjective of course. It sounds like a small motor turning for say 3 or 4 seconds. Once a week when they run the de-scale program, but you can set it at any point in the week. At that time they make the same noise, but for a longer time.

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            • sebgudekS sebgudek

              Hi, This is all very interesting. I bought the MAX! System 2 months ago and only one thing is missing is to control my boiler when there is no heating demand from my zones. What do I need to do to make it all work and is there any way I can access your system to control it ? What do I need to buy to make it all work like you have, please?

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              p_battino
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              #22

              @sebgudek
              At the very minimum you need to buy a Raspberry Pi (around £ 30 ), a charger and an SD card and follow the instructions on www.raspberrypi.org/downloads/ to install Raspbian on the Raspberry PI, then follow Stephen's instructions on the file installation.txt:
              https://github.com/stephenmhall/PiHeating/blob/master/PiHeating/src/heating/installation.txt

              You need to know a little bit how to work on Linux do to so. If you have even a very limited linux experience, the instructions are enough, although they are very very condensed.

              When the code is running you can control it simply with a browser within the same network, again this is explained in installation.txt . It is in fact nicer (and easier) to use this interface than the MAX! Cube application, although they are not exactly the same thing and you still need the official application (I believe) to set the weekly program and other things.

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                stephenmhall
                wrote on last edited by stephenmhall
                #23

                Thanks for all that @p_battino , Any recent updates have been in the Neopixel branch rather than the master, I have added direct relay support in that branch for those with no Vera. The main changes have been to change the local display from individual led's to a neopixel ring controlled by a WeMos D1 mini ESP2866 board. I only use the serial and I2C connections on the GPIO to talk to the ESP and an I2C real time clock board (which is not necessary if the RPi can see the interwebs ) All the buttons and outputs are done by the ESP. The neopixel Libraries are much better for the Arduino based boards.

                I will post some pictures when I remember how to do that :(

                ah got it :)
                The connector by the WeMos is for the Relay.
                0_1460565562795_IMG_20160413_170002.jpg

                0_1460565773407_IMG_20160413_170015.jpg

                link to small video of it running

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                • S stephenmhall

                  Thanks for all that @p_battino , Any recent updates have been in the Neopixel branch rather than the master, I have added direct relay support in that branch for those with no Vera. The main changes have been to change the local display from individual led's to a neopixel ring controlled by a WeMos D1 mini ESP2866 board. I only use the serial and I2C connections on the GPIO to talk to the ESP and an I2C real time clock board (which is not necessary if the RPi can see the interwebs ) All the buttons and outputs are done by the ESP. The neopixel Libraries are much better for the Arduino based boards.

                  I will post some pictures when I remember how to do that :(

                  ah got it :)
                  The connector by the WeMos is for the Relay.
                  0_1460565562795_IMG_20160413_170002.jpg

                  0_1460565773407_IMG_20160413_170015.jpg

                  link to small video of it running

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                  p_battino
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                  #24

                  @stephenmhall what I still don't get is the purpose of the Neopixel ! what's for? what are you displaying with that led wheel?

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                    stephenmhall
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                    #25

                    North is Boiler function On/Off, East is Max Cube state, West is Vera state, South is heating normal/On/Off. The others are a Red-Heating on, Blue Heating off heartbeat.

                    An update to the Mk1 version. as in this link

                    Mk1 videot

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                      twisted
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                      #26

                      So, I finally got most of my bits and I have this up and running. This is quite simply awesome, but tbh I am now looking to see if there is some way to get this into node-red. I could be wrong but I am starting to see my home automation fracture into multiple different systems and my original plan was to try and keep everything to one interface where possible. Therefore I am starting to see node-red as maybe being my glue between each of them, the benefit of this is I might be able to drag in emoncms and better data analysis.

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                        stephenmhall
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                        #27

                        @twisted Glad to be of service :) I was unaware of node-red before your post, It may have brushed past my awareness but not stuck. I don't see why you could not use it if you can create decoders for the MAX messages as the Cube is happy to spit out data all day. How are you physically switching your boiler?

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                          At the moment nodered is still at my limit of knowledge, but I am getting there. In the end I went with a dual channel SSR302 from secure. To be honest if I needed to do it again, I would probably just use a twin relay z-wave module.

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                            Stuart Middleton
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                            THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!

                            I've got a system running that does exactly what you've got here, but I've not had time to finish it up, make it pretty and write the web interface. THANK YOU!

                            :satisfied:

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                              stephenmhall
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                              Thanks for that Stuart, always good to see it is getting used. Here is my latest live unit in its natural environment.

                              alt text

                              and a link to a video of it running on my gdrive

                              Running video

                              The video does not pick it up that good, it is less glowie than the film.

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                                Cool. Does it say: "I'm sorry Dave..." ??

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                                  stephenmhall
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                                  its programmed never to apologise, but I make sure it has no connection to the doors.

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                                    THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!

                                    I've got a system running that does exactly what you've got here, but I've not had time to finish it up, make it pretty and write the web interface. THANK YOU!

                                    :satisfied:

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                                    stephenmhall
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                                    @Stuart-Middleton Just to let you know I have updated the master branch on Github I found an error in the MAX code I borrowed that messed up the reported temps if the actual temperature went over 25.5 as you can understand in Scotland we don't see that very often. Anyway it's fixed in the Master. Also cleaned up some errors that popped up if not using the neopixel display.

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                                      Stuart Middleton
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                                      Ah, excellent thanks. I've noticed some of the temps have been reporting zero on the hot days. I'll grab it and give it a go.

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                                        Stuart Middleton
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                                        I'm seeing 0.0 readings from radiators for some reason. They were all valid last night but just seem to drop out randomly. Do you know if this is a bug or just the MAX system being a bit crappy? I've not had time to look at the code yet, just thought someone may know.

                                        And while I'm here, I can't get to the graphs on any rooms with a ' in them (i.e. Luke's Room) due to a database error (I'm guessing the DB lookup isn't escaped. :) I'll try and take a look at this at some point over the weekend.

                                        ![alt text](0_1470388092692_Capture.PNG image url)

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                                          This is problem of Max System - very often the temp is sended as 0.0 in comunication with the box

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