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Water meter: Itron Aquadis+ with pulse sensor

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    #21

    I just follow for now, because I have the same water meter.

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      rob.21
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      Hello,
      I was reading this forum and this can be also a solution.I have the same problems with reading the water meter.
      Use a special sensor for the Aquadis+, it costs about 70 Euro. (search for Cyble sensor)
      upload-975ca954-5946-4e84-828e-aae28489d8cd
      Datasheet sensor: https://www.itron.com/PublishedContent/Cyble_Sensor_pb_EN_12-11.pdf
      I have not tried this sensor yet.
      Rob

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      • R rob.21

        Hello,
        I was reading this forum and this can be also a solution.I have the same problems with reading the water meter.
        Use a special sensor for the Aquadis+, it costs about 70 Euro. (search for Cyble sensor)
        upload-975ca954-5946-4e84-828e-aae28489d8cd
        Datasheet sensor: https://www.itron.com/PublishedContent/Cyble_Sensor_pb_EN_12-11.pdf
        I have not tried this sensor yet.
        Rob

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        bisschopsr
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        #23

        @rob.21 Thanks for the addition. This is indeed the original Itron device for enabling pulse counting on the standard Aquadis+. Although probably the best solution (no hassle, just fits, avoids miscounting) it's rather expensive. Also it's a hard to buy one and even more important, it runs on a non-replaceable battery. The ones I found on the market have a battery of 5 years old (I believe the battery should last for 10). And don't forget about the fun of building it yourself!

        Domoticz, P1 meter interface, MySensors and more to come!

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          Hi All,
          Herewith an update of my effort to get this working correctly. I decided to try and work with the analogue value coming from the TCRT5000. I adapted the original MySensors watermeter sketch to enable the use of the analogue input. I put in a software hysteresis mechanism and ‘tools’ to check the values coming from the TCRT. This appeared to be very successful the setup has been running now 24/7 since January 1st. The result so fa is zero miscounts! The counter value is the same as the reading on the meter itself. I will post more details later and I will upload everything to Github, so the code, the pictures of the setup and the PCB I’m developing for this.

          Domoticz, P1 meter interface, MySensors and more to come!

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            bisschopsr
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            #25

            Hi all,

            The design and the sketch are on github. Link
            https://github.com/rbisschops/mySensors/tree/master/Watermeter

            This is an early stage design. Any feedback is welcome!

            Ralph

            Domoticz, P1 meter interface, MySensors and more to come!

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              #26

              Hi All,

              The water meter sensor has been running as of Jan 1st without a litre deviation compared to the actual water meter reading. That is 2 month! This week I received the most of the parts for the board. Made some final changed to the layout (see Github and Openhardware.io for the files). This week I will do a final quality check on the board. After that the order for the board goes out.

              Domoticz, P1 meter interface, MySensors and more to come!

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                #27

                Just the let you know, the board is submitted for production (V0.10). Now I have to wait patiently. Meanwhile I probably will work on the sketch, get the parts not used anymore out. Also I need to further write the manual.

                Domoticz, P1 meter interface, MySensors and more to come!

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                  Klon
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                  #28

                  Thanks for developing this. It works excellent with my water meter flawlessly, but does not appear to me the "water flow". No device in the domoticz.

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                    #29

                    @Klon This might be a Domoticz problem. DO you see water flow when you for instance connect with a tool like MYSController? My interest is about counting water consumption, so I did not pay attention to flow (yet). I dismantled the test setup a week ago, so can't test.

                    Domoticz, P1 meter interface, MySensors and more to come!

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                      #30

                      I just received the PCB's, so I will start to build the first proto somewhere this week. I will update the progress to the forum as soon as I have results.

                      Domoticz, P1 meter interface, MySensors and more to come!

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                        Klon
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                        #31

                        Unfortunately in MYSControler also does not have information about the flow of water.

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                        • KlonK Klon

                          Unfortunately in MYSControler also does not have information about the flow of water.

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                          bisschopsr
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                          #32

                          @Klon: Hi Klon, I chacked the code. It might be that the flow is not sent becaus I disabled the interupt of D3. I will have to make some changes to the code to get it working again. I will look into it.

                          Domoticz, P1 meter interface, MySensors and more to come!

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                            Hi all I soldered the PCB's this week. There is one little error in the boards, so not to bad. Today I tested the board for the first time. It is working perfectly. I must however say that the board does not yet contain the EEPROM and the ATSHA, so that part is not tested (yet). I also have to adapt the sketch for the Temperature sensor (SI7021), so that parts also remains to be tested.
                            Herewith some pictures of the PCB.
                            0_1459009138784_IMG_2977.JPG 0_1459009144654_IMG_2979.JPG

                            Domoticz, P1 meter interface, MySensors and more to come!

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                              Hi All,
                              Just to add a picture of the assembled sensor with its housing. The housing was a little strugle to get it to fit the meter. The top of the meter is not flat. Eventually I found the best fitting solution. The "housing" was laser cut and consists of three parts, a base plate, a plate to fit the PCB and a protective top plate with some text. The base plate has a screw to fixate the sensor to the meter.
                              0_1462518954749_IMG_2987_small.jpg

                              I will post a picture of the sensor on the meter later.

                              Domoticz, P1 meter interface, MySensors and more to come!

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                                Hi All,

                                The sensor is finally in production on my home water meter. I just uploaded the latest version of the pcb documents to OpenHardware.io. Not bad only one small error in the PCB design. Easily fixed so no need for ordering new boards.

                                Domoticz, P1 meter interface, MySensors and more to come!

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                                • bisschopsrB bisschopsr

                                  Hi All,

                                  The sensor is finally in production on my home water meter. I just uploaded the latest version of the pcb documents to OpenHardware.io. Not bad only one small error in the PCB design. Easily fixed so no need for ordering new boards.

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                                  #36

                                  @bisschopsr Thanks for sharing! :+1:
                                  Will you be able to make it to the MySensors meetup at July 30th in Breda?
                                  Would be very nice if you can show it there!

                                  http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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                                    @bisschopsr Thanks for sharing! :+1:
                                    Will you be able to make it to the MySensors meetup at July 30th in Breda?
                                    Would be very nice if you can show it there!

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                                    #37

                                    Hi @Yveaux thanks for bringing the meetup to my attention. I will look at it (found the thread). As this is very close to my summer holiday I will have to see if I can be there. I will keep you posted.

                                    Thanks

                                    Ralph

                                    Domoticz, P1 meter interface, MySensors and more to come!

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                                      @hek : I'm in the process of converting my sketch to the 2.0.0 release of mySensors. As I work in Visual Studio (instead of the standard IDE) I noticed that there is an error generated for the following line:

                                      send(lastCounterMsg.set(pulseCount));
                                      

                                      This line is also in the original (converted) sketch at line 140. If I change the line in line with the other send commands so something like this:

                                      send(lastCounterMsg.set(pulseCount,3));
                                      

                                      the error is gone.

                                      So my questions are:
                                      What is the correct way to write the code line?
                                      Is the 2.0.0 release more critical to this?

                                      Note: The standard IDE compiles the code without an error.
                                      Thx in advance,

                                      Ralph

                                      Domoticz, P1 meter interface, MySensors and more to come!

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                                        hek
                                        Admin
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                                        #39

                                        Using the following feels wrong. It isn't a float value you're transmitting.

                                        send(lastCounterMsg.set(pulseCount,3));

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                                        • bisschopsrB bisschopsr

                                          @hek : I'm in the process of converting my sketch to the 2.0.0 release of mySensors. As I work in Visual Studio (instead of the standard IDE) I noticed that there is an error generated for the following line:

                                          send(lastCounterMsg.set(pulseCount));
                                          

                                          This line is also in the original (converted) sketch at line 140. If I change the line in line with the other send commands so something like this:

                                          send(lastCounterMsg.set(pulseCount,3));
                                          

                                          the error is gone.

                                          So my questions are:
                                          What is the correct way to write the code line?
                                          Is the 2.0.0 release more critical to this?

                                          Note: The standard IDE compiles the code without an error.
                                          Thx in advance,

                                          Ralph

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                                          @bisschopsr can you post the error message? Maybe that will help in fixing the error...

                                          http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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