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  • D Disca

    @MLs In Device Manager what com port is assigned to the sensebender GW? Have you manually installed the inf file?

    com4 is likely the last com port you used in the arduino interface not the one assigned to the GW.

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    #147

    @Disca

    No, I have not installed or selected com port.
    Device Manager COM4
    As I understood it so Windows 10 would fix everything, right?

    //Mattias

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      @tbowmo : It's better for seeing debug from start.
      But there is 2 bugs :

      • When you want to upload sketch. /dev/ttyACM0 disapear (and D4 goes off) afterunplu/plug it works for uploading sketch (D4 off) but at the end of uplaod ArduinoIDE makes a soft reset and /dev/ttyACM0 disapear. Works fine after plus/unplug (D4 ON)
      • When pressing reset /dev/ttyACM0 disapear (and D4 goes off). Works fine after plug/unplug
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      • M MLs

        @Disca

        No, I have not installed or selected com port.
        Device Manager COM4
        As I understood it so Windows 10 would fix everything, right?

        //Mattias

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        @MLs mmm not sure then, it works for me on Windows 7 with 1.8.1 (slightly newer version?)

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          tbowmo
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          #150

          @MLs

          I don't have windows installed, so I'm sorry that I can't help with windows specifics.

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            @MLs

            I don't have windows installed, so I'm sorry that I can't help with windows specifics.

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            @tbowmo

            Now, I think it feels like hardware failure more than software errors. Will try tomorrow on my second computer with Windows 7 and see if there is any difference.

            //Mattias

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              @Fabien

              I added a couple of udev rules, to stop modemmanager take control over the device

              ACTION!="add|change|move", GOTO="local_usb_device_blacklist_end"
              SUBSYSTEM!="usb", GOTO="local_usb_device_blacklist_end"
              ENV{DEVTYPE}!="usb_device",  GOTO="local_usb_device_blacklist_end"
              
              ATTRS{idVendor}=="1209", ENV{ID_MM_DEVICE_IGNORE}="1"
              
              LABEL="local_usb_device_blacklist_end"
              

              Add the above to this file /etc/udev/rules.d/mysensors.rules

              As the USB is native in the arm processor, then it will re-enumerate on the USB port whenever a reset condition occurs. When you press the reset button it will act as a unplug / plug operation (you can see this in dmesg)

              When uploading to the gateway, it will reset itself to enter bootloader.. The bootloader will have another VID/PID combo (VID:1209, PID:6448) than during normal operation (VID:1209, PID:6449).

              I have never seen the problems that you are having, where you need to fysically unplug / plug the device, after you have pressed the reset button (or uploaded a new firmware). And I have uploaded firmware (and pressed the reset button) quite some times :)

              Also please note, that if you double tap the reset button, the gateway will enter bootloader mode, and wait for a new sketch to be sent.

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                Fabien
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                @tbowmo : Same with udev rules (but this file is not necessary because modemmanger is not installed).
                I try to power SBGW with usb, D4 goes ON. After pressing reset, D4 goes OFF and never goes on (I must unplug/plu usb power). Do you have the same with your board ? Perhaps a problem with bootloader ?

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                  #154

                  @Fabien

                  D4 is the yellow LED, and the only place it is used is in the onboard selftest routine.

                  In my setup, D5 turns on when plugging in the device. If I hit reset one time, it momentarily switches off D5, and then back on. if I hit reset twice, it stays off (bootloader is activated)

                  The above is done on my RFM69 debug gateway, so the sketch is for RFM69, but otherwise a standard SensebenderGatewaySerial sketch

                  Have you checked dmesg, when plugging in, and when hitting the reset button?

                  Have you tried with another USB cable? Have you tried with another computer?

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                    I try with 2 different USB cable and 2 computer (1 laptop and 1 desktop). Same problem. With a charger too. And sorry for the mistake, it's D5 (orange)
                    On log

                    [ 4788.031324] usb 1-8: USB disconnect, device number 6
                    
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                      0_1486421335378_IMG_20170206_234714.jpg
                      Thank you @scalz !
                      You must have a very well calibrated printer to print it correctly. First try fails (oozing due to overtemp)
                      Other side tomorrow !

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                      • D Disca

                        @MLs mmm not sure then, it works for me on Windows 7 with 1.8.1 (slightly newer version?)

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                        @Disca

                        Where did you find the drivers for sensebender GW for Windows 7?

                        //Mattias

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                        • M MLs

                          @Disca

                          Where did you find the drivers for sensebender GW for Windows 7?

                          //Mattias

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                          @MLs

                          Check the product page on mysensors.org

                          https://www.mysensors.org/hardware/sensebender-gateway

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                            @Fabien

                            D5 is used by arduino to signal USB serial rx/TX activity.

                            Can you post the log lines from dmesg, from when you insert the usb cable, to after you have pressed the reset button?

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                              @MLs

                              Check the product page on mysensors.org

                              https://www.mysensors.org/hardware/sensebender-gateway

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                              @tbowmo

                              I tried to update the drivers in Device Manager / sense bender GW but it failed to install the computer said.

                              Therefore, I asked one who wrote that he was using Windows 7

                              //Mattias

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                                #161

                                @MLs
                                I'm also still using win7 x64 for my dev and that worked for me.

                                Auto install through the Device Manager does not work, nor right-clicking and installing the .inf through Explorer.

                                You have to force the install and select the location of the .inf in Device Manager. Then it will ask you if you agree about the driver supplier. Of course you're! And you should be able to see it in Device Manager.

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                                  There are example program for W5100? The original GatewayW5100 program uses SOFTSPI, different NRF CE/CSN pins? Will work with this hardware properly?

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                                    @MLs
                                    I'm also still using win7 x64 for my dev and that worked for me.

                                    Auto install through the Device Manager does not work, nor right-clicking and installing the .inf through Explorer.

                                    You have to force the install and select the location of the .inf in Device Manager. Then it will ask you if you agree about the driver supplier. Of course you're! And you should be able to see it in Device Manager.

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                                    @scalz

                                    Heh've tried both in the device manager and manually. Device Manager, I get an error message.

                                    0_1486469926862_Enhetshanteraren.png

                                    And manually, nothing happens.

                                    0_1486469936775_Manuelt.png

                                    //Mattias

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                                      #164

                                      @MLs
                                      yep that's what i explained.
                                      you need to force it in Device Manager. How you're doing in Device manager actually is rather auto, imho ;)
                                      You can try in Device manager to right click on the bad detected device, here Sensebender Gw, and in properties, update driver. At a moment, it should prompt an "Open file" Dialog box (you need to choose the right option in the dialog) and then select your .inf file. And it will ask if you're ok to install a driver from a third party.

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                                      • D Dany

                                        There are example program for W5100? The original GatewayW5100 program uses SOFTSPI, different NRF CE/CSN pins? Will work with this hardware properly?

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                                        @Dany

                                        The standard GatewayW5100 example sketch will work on the sensebender gateway. There are conditional compile statements in that sketch, that disables softspi when compiling to the gateway target, and use a hardware SPI instead.

                                        Remember to choose the correct target in your Arduino IDE

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                                          #166

                                          @MLs
                                          Okay, simpler, forget what i told you, and follow my steps below. I've unstalled mine to show you ;)
                                          Then if it can be useful for others. Nothing fancy here, it can be used for lot of others drivers.

                                          Step 1: plugin the GW, as you can see it's not detected, and no additional com port.
                                          0_1486474793485_SBDGW win7 driver install step 1.png

                                          Step 2: right clic, and update driver
                                          0_1486474882132_SBDGW win7 driver install step 2.png

                                          Step 3: click on the 2nd option for searching a driver on your machine
                                          0_1486474932523_SBDGW win7 driver install step 3.png

                                          Step 4: Again 2nd option here (you want to search for a driver on your computer)
                                          0_1486474985503_SBDGW win7 driver install step 4.png

                                          Step 5: This is a Virtual Serial Com port needed for the GW. So choose COM/LPT for the driver type
                                          0_1486475057428_SBDGW win7 driver install step 5.png

                                          Step 6: Now it is asking where the driver (.inf) is stored
                                          0_1486475102981_SBDGW win7 driver install step 6.png

                                          Step 7: You can now see that Windows knows what this is about. And tells you this driver is not "signed". No problem we know @tbowmo has done a great job. So, Next!
                                          0_1486475141843_SBDGW win7 driver install step 7.png

                                          Step 8: Windows here warns again, saying he doesn't know this driver, so it may not work well. No way, it will work well ;) Click "Yes" to install it.
                                          0_1486475226673_SBDGW win7 driver install step 8.png

                                          Step 9: Looks good
                                          0_1486475299591_SBDGW win7 driver install step 9.png

                                          Step 10: Tada! Here you can see now the GW is well detected and setup on COM port 24
                                          0_1486475356373_SBDGW win7 driver install step 10.png

                                          I can't do better!
                                          I think you'll get it :)

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