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My weather station starts dropping packet after 1 week of use...

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  • hekH Offline
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    hek
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    #6

    Strange.. A millis() wrap issue should have the frequency of ~50 days...

    Most likely @sundberg84 is right. Somehow the node misses a few transmissions in a row and starts looking for a new route to gateway. It will retry search every time you make a new transmission (every 5 minute?).

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      What controller are you running? Could the issue be between gw/controller?

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        @hek, as explained in the previous post, I enforced the next hop (GW).. so, it shouldn't used another route ?
        gw.begin(NULL, 102, false, 0);
        here is my config.

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          What controller are you running? Could the issue be between gw/controller?

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          @hek said:
          I looked in the other sensors (sensebender at the same time). I have 5 sensebender, and there is no drop at this time. Packets are received every 5 minutes during this period. So, I don't expect a freeze of the GW.
          I use JEEDOM.
          I don't expect issue between GW and Controller ... but it can be a lead.
          it difficult to troubleshoot controller. Because it's a serial GW, if packet doesn't arrive to the controller, I can not check at the GW level, as there is no way to connect.

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            Agree with you. Very strange. Especially when you use a direct route to gw.

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            • hekH hek

              What controller are you running? Could the issue be between gw/controller?

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              @hek "Could the issue be between gw/controller?" ... I have a st=fail so it shouldn't be between controller and GW ?

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              • hekH hek

                Agree with you. Very strange. Especially when you use a direct route to gw.

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                @hek said:

                Agree with you. Very strange. Especially when you use a direct route to gw.

                the strange thing : I receive alsmost 19000 messages without issue.
                When it happens for the first time, the issues are more and more frequent.
                the NRF PA LNA provided by ITEAD should be good, no ? Which PA LNA are you recommending ?
                One more thing, when problem happens, and recover, I tried to make a reboot from my controller, and the WS is not longer communicating. I have to power down/up to recover

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                  I don't have super much experience with the Mega2650.. The only thing I've noticed with the one I got is that the 3v3 power rail is really bad. So I got really strange issues when trying to power radio from it. Had to use a step down from 5V and decouple it.

                  Would it be hard to test your setup on a vanilla radio? Or is the distance too far?

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                    I don't have super much experience with the Mega2650.. The only thing I've noticed with the one I got is that the 3v3 power rail is really bad. So I got really strange issues when trying to power radio from it. Had to use a step down from 5V and decouple it.

                    Would it be hard to test your setup on a vanilla radio? Or is the distance too far?

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                    @hek My antenna is powered externally directly in 3.3V with 4.7uF...
                    What is vanilla radio ? distance is 5m, but a big ceiling is in between...

                    0_1454321242150_Capture d’écran 2016-02-01 à 11.02.56.png

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                      @doblanch said:

                      What is vanilla radio ?

                      One of these:
                      http://www.ebay.com/itm/170819069271?rmvSB=true

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                        @doblanch said:

                        What is vanilla radio ?

                        One of these:
                        http://www.ebay.com/itm/170819069271?rmvSB=true

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                        @hek ok :-) Yes of course, I tried, it doesn't work...ceiling is really too thick !
                        12H03 - 12H23 We can see clearly the drops... :-( and I have st=fail.
                        I resend packet based on st=fail, but resend is dropped also

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                          I think it will try to find parent even though you have it set to 0 (if it fails).
                          I might be wrong, but this is something i notised in an older version.

                          Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                          MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                          MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                          RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                            I think it will try to find parent even though you have it set to 0 (if it fails).
                            I might be wrong, but this is something i notised in an older version.

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                            @sundberg84 I use the last version (I guess nov 2015).
                            @hek it can be the case ? trying to use another route.
                            There is no other route available normally. I have disable repeater mode on all powered sensor.
                            Could it be a bad NRF24 ? is there a brand well-kwown really trusted ?

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                              I don't think it should search...
                              https://github.com/mysensors/Arduino/blob/master/libraries/MySensors/MySensor.cpp#L463

                              But you might wanna try the development branch anyway to see if you notice any difference.

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                                I don't think it should search...
                                https://github.com/mysensors/Arduino/blob/master/libraries/MySensors/MySensor.cpp#L463

                                But you might wanna try the development branch anyway to see if you notice any difference.

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                                @hek

                                @hek said:

                                I don't think it should search...
                                https://github.com/mysensors/Arduino/blob/master/libraries/MySensors/MySensor.cpp#L463

                                But you might wanna try the development branch anyway to see if you notice any difference.

                                I can try at the next occurence... as I have no more idea... I think that code is clean, and problem is rather on the NRF. Maybe a starvation of something after a while, I don't know. difficult to say.
                                btw, you didn't answer my question, is there a trusted NRF/PA/LNA seller, with a tested NRF24 tested by you, and working at it should ?

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                                  @doblanch said:

                                  btw, you didn't answer my question, is there a trusted NRF/PA/LNA seller,

                                  I cannot make any guarantees. But ITead should sell the genuine thing.

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                                    @doblanch said:

                                    btw, you didn't answer my question, is there a trusted NRF/PA/LNA seller,

                                    I cannot make any guarantees. But ITead should sell the genuine thing.

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                                    @hek said:

                                    @doblanch said:

                                    btw, you didn't answer my question, is there a trusted NRF/PA/LNA seller,

                                    I cannot make any guarantees. But ITead should sell the genuine thing.

                                    it was my assumption too ...
                                    If I enable debug, will it provide me more info about communication ?

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