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💬 MySensors Stable Node

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  • hekH hek

    @Koresh

    .gm2 was a new extension I didn't know about.
    I've updated the file extraction engine. When you get a chance, please try uploading it again.

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    Koresh
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    #33

    @hek
    Thanks for quick fix :)
    gm2 = gerber mechanic layer2. So there are many variations of file extensions. I think it would be perfect to add ability to attach a file with custom extension or raw zip\rar without extraction.

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      @Koresh

      I renamed the gm2 file to gml ( see: http://jrainimo.com/build/?p=642 ), and was able to order it from dirtypcb.

      Alex

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        @Koresh

        I renamed the gm2 file to gml ( see: http://jrainimo.com/build/?p=642 ), and was able to order it from dirtypcb.

        Alex

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        #35

        @Slorf One detail.... If it is not so late - please change your order (sorry...). Board thikness must be 1.6mm (antenna tunned for this value). I've changed board description.

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          @Koresh

          I mailed the people at dirtypcb, hopefully they can change it for me.

          If they cannot change it, would it be possible to get rid of the antenna and mount a pa/lna antenna ?

          Regards

          Alex

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            @Koresh

            I mailed the people at dirtypcb, hopefully they can change it for me.

            If they cannot change it, would it be possible to get rid of the antenna and mount a pa/lna antenna ?

            Regards

            Alex

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            Koresh
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            wrote on last edited by Koresh
            #37

            @Slorf Do not worry. Antenna will work with any board thikness, but with 1.6mm (with current geomerty configuration) it will be optimal. Almost all china nrf modules (I've seen) have non optimal antenna geometry.
            PS
            I'am sorry :( I hope dirtypcb will change you order.

            @Slorf said in MySensors Stable Node:

            it be possible to get rid of the antenna and mount a pa/lna antenna ?

            It is possible, but its very non technologically...

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              Great board.
              Did you test the performance ? Like number of recieved packets per second ?

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                @Koresh

                Let's hope the change it :-)

                Would it be possible to mount something like this on the pcb ?

                http://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-SMA-female-jack-PCB-board-mount-right-angle-RF-coax-adapter-connector-converter/32588385730.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.2.S4UqzO&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_7,searchweb201644_2_505_506_503_504_10020_502_10001_10002_10017_10010_10005_10011_10006_10003_10021_10004_10022_10009_10008_10018_10019,searchweb201560_3,searchweb1451318400_-1,searchweb1451318411_6449&btsid=91e89a18-89b4-43d2-bbab-ea422e14d360

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                  @Koresh

                  Couple of questions :-)

                  How to mount the second Quartz crystal ?, there are no holes in the pcb

                  The LDO regulators are mounted next to 4.7uf capacitors, is it correct that the regulators and capacitors are connected to eachother on both sides ?

                  On the photo of the assembled pcb it looks like this, but on the photo of the plain pcb and the schematic it look different.

                                                             | Pin 1
                                                            IC3
                                               Pin2    |          | Pin 3
                          Are pin 2 and 3 also connected to the capacitor left and right pin ?
                                            Left pin   |    C14   | Right pin
                  

                  Thanks !!

                  Alex

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                    @Koresh

                    Couple of questions :-)

                    How to mount the second Quartz crystal ?, there are no holes in the pcb

                    The LDO regulators are mounted next to 4.7uf capacitors, is it correct that the regulators and capacitors are connected to eachother on both sides ?

                    On the photo of the assembled pcb it looks like this, but on the photo of the plain pcb and the schematic it look different.

                                                               | Pin 1
                                                              IC3
                                                 Pin2    |          | Pin 3
                            Are pin 2 and 3 also connected to the capacitor left and right pin ?
                                              Left pin   |    C14   | Right pin
                    

                    Thanks !!

                    Alex

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                    #41

                    @Slorf
                    Q1? Q1 is smd quartz. Q2 can be smd too but it can be difficult to mount it (so I've placed holes).

                    I do not understand about LDO. You can check pinout in datasheet http://www.torexsemi.com/products/voltage_regulators/data/XC6206.pdf . May be datasheet schematic model (picture) is different from my library schematic model. But schematic and layout are correct.

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                      @Koresh

                      Hi, the bom says 2 x quartz crystal

                      I did not know they where different and one should be smd.

                      Could you tell me which quartz crystals I should get ?

                      Will check out the datasheet for the LDO :-)

                      Thanks

                      Alex

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                        @Koresh

                        Found the smd quartz crystals :-)

                        Alex

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                          @Koresh

                          Hi, the bom says 2 x quartz crystal

                          I did not know they where different and one should be smd.

                          Could you tell me which quartz crystals I should get ?

                          Will check out the datasheet for the LDO :-)

                          Thanks

                          Alex

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                          #44

                          @Slorf I've left the package field in bom blank, so you can use any crystal you have. All components on the board are smd, so crystal should be smd too if you have it. But it may be difficult to place smd crystal as Q2 (too small area) and I've placed holes. I have both SMD and THD crystals but I will put holes in Q1 crystal pads in the next version too. Now you can simply mount THD crystal on the pads, it's not difficult.

                          @Slorf said:

                          Would it be possible to mount something like this on the pcb?

                          It's possible. But I want this board to be as compact as possible.

                          @ahmedadelhosni said:

                          Great board.
                          Did you test the performance ? Like number of recieved packets per second ?

                          Thanks. I've tested stability (for some months without troubles in typical applications) and RF range. I think it doesn't make sense to test performance with low performance mcu, but you can propose the sketch and I test with it.

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                            Slorf
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                            @Koresh

                            I have both versions ( SMD and THD ) crystals on order with aliexpress now :-)

                            As for the LDO regulators, I will wait for the PCB's to arrive before making assumptions ;-)

                            Now I have to wait some weeks before everything arrives ........and then my first smd soldering experience !

                            Alex

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                              Slorf
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                              @Koresh

                              I got as reply from dirtypcb's, they changed it to 1.6 mm :-)

                              Alex

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                                Hi,
                                Very nice project. Do you have a plan to sell assembled piece of the boards?
                                Soldering such small SMD is out of my skills

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                                • fisherF fisher

                                  Hi,
                                  Very nice project. Do you have a plan to sell assembled piece of the boards?
                                  Soldering such small SMD is out of my skills

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                                  Koresh
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                                  #48

                                  @fisher Thanks. I'm looking for good PCBA service.

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                                  • KoreshK Koresh

                                    @fisher Thanks. I'm looking for good PCBA service.

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                                    fisher
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                                    @Koresh I'm looking forward. What do you think, what will be the price of a assembled piece?

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                                    • fisherF fisher

                                      @Koresh I'm looking forward. What do you think, what will be the price of a assembled piece?

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                                      #50

                                      @fisher The production of the first small batch is underway (manual mounting). So I wil have 20 boards for test next week. I will provide price estimate in a week.

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                                        @fisher The production of the first small batch is underway (manual mounting). So I wil have 20 boards for test next week. I will provide price estimate in a week.

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                                        @Koresh post pictures please :-)

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                                          Hi @Koresh,
                                          Sorry if this is a dumb question but I'm new to this. What's the minimum voltage to power this board? Is it the 1.9V from the NRF?
                                          I'm thinking of building a node with this using a LiPo battery with a protected TP4056 charging module.
                                          If me idea isn't impossible I'd be highly interested to buy some assembled units of this PCB. :)
                                          Thanks!

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