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NRF24L01+ smd schematics

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    LastSamurai
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    Hi, does anyone have the smd kind of the nrf as a part for eagle/target3001/kicad? I saw some of you guys use it in some of your designs but couldn't find it myself.
    Perhaps we could also add it to the mysensors repo.

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      Hi, does anyone have the smd kind of the nrf as a part for eagle/target3001/kicad? I saw some of you guys use it in some of your designs but couldn't find it myself.
      Perhaps we could also add it to the mysensors repo.

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      GertSanders
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      @LastSamurai
      If you look on the forum you should find my eagle library with footprints for the smd version. Otherwise just export it from my very narrow node designs.

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        @LastSamurai
        If you look on the forum you should find my eagle library with footprints for the smd version. Otherwise just export it from my very narrow node designs.

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        LastSamurai
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        @GertSanders I tried to find the library here but I actually coudln't. Could you perhaps give me a hint where to find it? Thanks!

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          emc2
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          @LastSamurai for KiCad it's already in the mysensors repo: https://github.com/mysensors-kicad/mysensors_radios.pretty/blob/master/NRF24L01-SMD.kicad_mod

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          • L LastSamurai

            @GertSanders I tried to find the library here but I actually coudln't. Could you perhaps give me a hint where to find it? Thanks!

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            GertSanders
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            @LastSamurai

            I have added my EAGLE library below:

            0_1459411902291_NRF24L01plus.lbr

            You can rename it because the forum adds the extra "0_1459411902291_" during upload.

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              LastSamurai
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              Thank you for the help!

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                alexsh1
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                #7

                @GertSanders you can change the status of your node as "tested". It works just fine - one important thing to remember is to solder the 3.3v solderpad. A couple of observations:

                1. I can no longer fit a single AAA battery holders, but a double one only (AA or AAA)

                2. the holes for J1 are two small and I had to drill them out.

                I have not tested ATSHA204A as I do not have all components yet.

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                  @GertSanders you can change the status of your node as "tested". It works just fine - one important thing to remember is to solder the 3.3v solderpad. A couple of observations:

                  1. I can no longer fit a single AAA battery holders, but a double one only (AA or AAA)

                  2. the holes for J1 are two small and I had to drill them out.

                  I have not tested ATSHA204A as I do not have all components yet.

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                  GertSanders
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                  @alexsh1

                  So you received the boards before I did :-)

                  I'm still waiting on them. They are "in the mail" or at least in the hands of my local mail service (any day now...).

                  Which type of header/connector did you use to mount in the J1 location ? If the holes are too narrow for the breakable two row male headers, I will adapt this (that is why it is still UNTESTED for me).

                  Indeed, one or two single AAA holders are not possible on this board. I found that the double battery holders actually are cheaper, and it allows avoiding two extra holes where the radio now sits.

                  Update: I checked the drill size of the part used in v3 to place the header, indeed this is 0,8mm (31 mil) instead of 1,016mm (40 mil).
                  In my v4 version I already switched to a wider header, and this one does have 40 mil drill diameter. It's good I did not do a panel with the v3 version.

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                    @alexsh1

                    So you received the boards before I did :-)

                    I'm still waiting on them. They are "in the mail" or at least in the hands of my local mail service (any day now...).

                    Which type of header/connector did you use to mount in the J1 location ? If the holes are too narrow for the breakable two row male headers, I will adapt this (that is why it is still UNTESTED for me).

                    Indeed, one or two single AAA holders are not possible on this board. I found that the double battery holders actually are cheaper, and it allows avoiding two extra holes where the radio now sits.

                    Update: I checked the drill size of the part used in v3 to place the header, indeed this is 0,8mm (31 mil) instead of 1,016mm (40 mil).
                    In my v4 version I already switched to a wider header, and this one does have 40 mil drill diameter. It's good I did not do a panel with the v3 version.

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                    @GertSanders

                    So you received the boards before I did :-)

                    Yes, I have got the boards in 3-4 days. Very quick

                    Which type of header/connector did you use to mount in the J1 location ? If the holes are too narrow for the breakable two row male headers, I will adapt this (that is why it is still UNTESTED for me).

                    I have used a single row header like this
                    http://www.protostack.com/connectors/headers/40-pin-2.54mm-snappable-single-row-header

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                    • alexsh1A alexsh1

                      @GertSanders

                      So you received the boards before I did :-)

                      Yes, I have got the boards in 3-4 days. Very quick

                      Which type of header/connector did you use to mount in the J1 location ? If the holes are too narrow for the breakable two row male headers, I will adapt this (that is why it is still UNTESTED for me).

                      I have used a single row header like this
                      http://www.protostack.com/connectors/headers/40-pin-2.54mm-snappable-single-row-header

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                      GertSanders
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                      @alexsh1
                      Ordered from OSHPark ?

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                      • GertSandersG GertSanders

                        @alexsh1
                        Ordered from OSHPark ?

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                        @GertSanders said:

                        @alexsh1
                        Ordered from OSHPark ?

                        Yes - these guys are good

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                          emc2
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                          Did anyone successfully used kicad footprint for these guys?
                          I received today my first PCB designed for the SMD version, did not work and overheated quite badly. After trying to troubleshoot it, frying a few things on the way, it seems to me that VCC / GND pad are switched between schematics and footprint:

                          "Datasheet" from one of many aliexpress / ebay seller (all seems to be the same)
                          0_1464483528132_data-smdnrf.jpg

                          KiCad PCB view
                          0_1464483533073_kicad-smdnrf.png

                          I changed it on a local lib to reorder a new PCB and try, but if others can have a look at it, especially @tbowmo to update the official github repo if needed.

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                            Did anyone successfully used kicad footprint for these guys?
                            I received today my first PCB designed for the SMD version, did not work and overheated quite badly. After trying to troubleshoot it, frying a few things on the way, it seems to me that VCC / GND pad are switched between schematics and footprint:

                            "Datasheet" from one of many aliexpress / ebay seller (all seems to be the same)
                            0_1464483528132_data-smdnrf.jpg

                            KiCad PCB view
                            0_1464483533073_kicad-smdnrf.png

                            I changed it on a local lib to reorder a new PCB and try, but if others can have a look at it, especially @tbowmo to update the official github repo if needed.

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                            @emc2 You have to be careful with these. As I discovered myself recently there are ones with PIN1 and PIN2 as VCC and GND and others with PIN1 and PIN8 as VCC and GND.
                            This is not well documented!

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                              @emc2 You have to be careful with these. As I discovered myself recently there are ones with PIN1 and PIN2 as VCC and GND and others with PIN1 and PIN8 as VCC and GND.
                              This is not well documented!

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                              emc2
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                              @alexsh1 Damnit...
                              Never encountered a PIN1/PIN8 module yet. Are those with blob? I saw a few modules with black blob, often a big cristal and very cheap but I never ordered them.

                              I have a few of this exact module, it has a datasheet on the website and wiring it as described work on a breadboard.
                              Did you encounter any PIN1 - GND, PIN2 - VCC so far?

                              Problem may be somewhere else, probability that I screwed up my PCB design is high. I will see with the next PCB, with pin switched, if it's working.

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                                @alexsh1 Damnit...
                                Never encountered a PIN1/PIN8 module yet. Are those with blob? I saw a few modules with black blob, often a big cristal and very cheap but I never ordered them.

                                I have a few of this exact module, it has a datasheet on the website and wiring it as described work on a breadboard.
                                Did you encounter any PIN1 - GND, PIN2 - VCC so far?

                                Problem may be somewhere else, probability that I screwed up my PCB design is high. I will see with the next PCB, with pin switched, if it's working.

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                                @emc2 Yes, all of my nrf24l01+ smd modules have PIN1 - VCC and PIN2 - GND
                                No idea why chinese are switching pins

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                                  @emc2

                                  Sorry about that, it was made in a jiffy one dark night, and I never got around to verify the footprint myself :(

                                  I'll update the footprint later today (or you can make a PR on github and change it your self).

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                                    @emc2

                                    Sorry about that, it was made in a jiffy one dark night, and I never got around to verify the footprint myself :(

                                    I'll update the footprint later today (or you can make a PR on github and change it your self).

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                                    emc2
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                                    @tbowmo
                                    Hey no worries, it's still a great ressource and so far I used it without any problem.

                                    I'm always confused by github when it came to PR etc but it should work. I just switched the coordinates of pad 1 and 2 it should do the trick.

                                    Thanks!

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                                      @emc2

                                      I updated the footprint on github (and yes, I also chose the easy route, and swapped pins 1 and 2 on the footprint) :)

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