Solar Powered Soil Moisture Sensor

[NeverDie]

What kind of soil moisture sensor is it?

[mfalkvidd]

It is just a simple pitchfork, like this http://www.aliexpress.com/item/10pcs-Soil-Hygrometer-Detection-Module-Soil-Moisture-Sensor-Probes/2051713873.html

[dbemowsk]

I love this concept. This kind of setup could be used for outdoor temp, light, humidity, and other things and not having to worry about power with it being solar. It also keeps the arduino shielded from weather and such also which is nice. I may use this design for some of my new sensors.

[flopp]

@dbemowsk
If you have the solar in the sun and the sensors in the shadow and protected from rain that will work.
My idea is to use a solar for all my outdoor sensors but have a bigger solar panel and a bigger(more mah) that feeds my nodes, rain, temp, hum, pressure, light, UV and in future lightning.

[NeverDie]

@mfalkvidd
Thanks for posting that link! Even though I don't believe in these types of sensors, I used your link to buy some anyway just because they're so darn cheap!

[mfalkvidd]

@NeverDie
If you just want to know when it is time to water regular home plants (0.5-2 times per week normally) , they are more than good enough.

If you want to maximize growth in a farming situation, you'll probably need to go for more advanced measurement methods.

[NeverDie]

Good to know! I'll give it a try--I guess two months from now after they arrive. :wink: My wife has two dozen house plants, and so it would be nice if I could automate the monitoring.

[flopp]

I have noisy measurement on analog input for battery voltage.

Anyone that know how I can solve that?

All pictures during night so there shouldn't be any sun that create power. See schematic above how it is connected.

First Node
No cap. Measures every 10 seconds, picture is 5 minute average.

Second Node.
10uF electrolyte cap between GND and A0. Measure every 30 minute. Picture is 5 min average.

Third Node
No cap. Measure every 30 minute. Picture is 5 min average.

I see a slightly better measurement on Seconds Node but can it be better? This is power directly from the battery and I think the battery should be more stable than this. I have other nodes were I measure the VCC on Arduino and that measurement is extremely stable. Maybe the analog input isn't better than what I get in the pictures?

[Huczas]

Could you show better scetch how you connect electicaly everything? how you sending data from arduino pro mini to Domoticz?

In your scetch I see only power->battery->step-up->MCU

[AWI]

@flopp I had exactly the same problem with a solar powered node. I solved it by moving the battery measurement around in the sketch. The analog measurement is sensitive..

[flopp]

@Huczas said:

Could you show better scetch how you connect electicaly everything? how you sending data from arduino pro mini to Domoticz?

In your scetch I see only power->battery->step-up->MCU

Electric connection as the attached schematic and NRF you connect according to MySensors instruction.
Data is sent through the NRF with attached sketch

[flopp]

@AWI
Ok I will try to put it somewhere else and also with some delay before reading analog.
Thanks

[flopp]

@AWI said:

@flopp I had exactly the same problem with a solar powered node. I solved it by moving the battery measurement around in the sketch. The analog measurement is sensitive..
Do you use voltage divider or direct from battery to analog input?
I use direct from battery.

[flopp]

Updated electric sketch with Connectors. This is useful if the battery gets empty then you need to disconnect Arduino so the battery can get charged.

[AWI]

@flopp a voltage divider as I use a rechargeable Li -cell (3.7 v)

[pettib]

@flopp Maybe i miss something but I think the connector should be mounted between the battery and the Vin on the step-up. You mounted it on the A0, it´s just the voltage check port.

In the original lamp there was what i think is a charge regulator between the solar cell and the batteri, did you keep that one or you just put the solar cell to the battery ?

Thanks for a nice idé to use this lamp.

[flopp]

@pettib said:

@flopp Maybe i miss something but I think the connector should be mounted between the battery and the Vin on the step-up. You mounted it on the A0, it´s just the voltage check port.

Thanks, I was to quick when adding the connectors

In the original lamp there was what i think is a charge regulator between the solar cell and the batteri, did you keep that one or you just put the solar cell to the battery ?

I removed the small IC, YX8108. Below is a schematic for YX8108

[pettib]

@flopp Is it the led or the solar cell that is working as light sensor ? If i remove the led and measure on the pins there is always power, even if it´s in daylight. So it should be possible to get the power to the step-up Vin from the LED pin, This way we can keep the on/off switch and the (YX8018) Mine is marked HW012.

[flopp]

@pettib said:

@flopp Is it the led or the solar cell that is working as light sensor ?

Solar.
First I used the YX8108 but I noticed as long as there is power out from solar(sunshine) the LED doesn't get any power, when the power is low(~0,3V) the LED gets power.

[pettib]

@flopp I found this link. https://ez.analog.com/community/university-program/blog/2014/11/14/hacking-an-led-solar-garden-light
The strange thing is that i can´t get the power on the led pin to go low. But i will remove the IC anyway. I made one light 2 days ago but the battery was empty just the day after and i was not able to get it fully charged again. Maybe some bad connection. I will try a new one today.