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  • scalzS Offline
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    wrote on last edited by
    #29

    @blebbens
    could you show a link where you bought radio modules you're using please. I think @tekka may have found the problem :)

    For people who are getting same messages "FPAR FAIL", I think you may fall into the old case "st:fail", hardware related like using capa for radio, tekka advices above etc... where radio does not work properly and there is no ACK back so the comm is not validated. Then, after multiple retries, it fails.

    I can confirm this at least for static nodes. On my side, the latest v2.0 from dev branch works ok for me. as expected ;) Config tested for the moment is serial gw with exotic mcu atsam (I mean compared to classic gw). And the node is a multisensors. Radio is RFM69.

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    • blebbensB Offline
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      wrote on last edited by
      #30

      Flashed ClearEpromConfig...

      Added to the sketches...
      #define MY_RF24_PA_LEVEL RF24_PA_LOW
      #define MY_RF24_DATARATE RF24_1MBPS

      Think, this overrides MyConfig.h ?

      What a pity... just the same output... recognized as "unknown" S_ARDUINO_REPEATER_NODE.

      I bought this NRF:
      http://www.aliexpress.com/item/1sets-Special-promotions-1100-meter-long-distance-NRF24L01-PA-LNA-wireless-modules-with-antenna/32341792715.html?spm=2114.13010608.0.161.TbEXts

      But, the delivered NRFs have no marked GND.

      Oh, any ideas left ? Delivery of standard NRFs take 30-40 days.

      Extract of MyConfig.h:

      /**
       * @def MY_RF24_SPI_MAX_SPEED
       * @brief MY_RF24_SPI_MAX_SPEED to overrule default nRF24L01+ SPI speed.
       */
      //#define MY_RF24_SPI_MAX_SPEED 4000000
      
      /**
       * @def MY_RF24_CE_PIN
       * @brief Default RF24 chip enable pin setting. Override in sketch if needed.
       */
      #ifndef MY_RF24_CE_PIN
      	#if defined(ARDUINO_ARCH_ESP8266)
      		#define MY_RF24_CE_PIN 4
      	#elif defined(ARDUINO_ARCH_SAMD)
      		#define MY_RF24_CE_PIN 27
      	#else
      		#define MY_RF24_CE_PIN 9
      	#endif
      #endif
      
      /**
       * @def MY_RF24_CS_PIN
       * @brief Default RF24 chip select pin setting. Override in sketch if needed.
       */
      #ifndef MY_RF24_CS_PIN
      	#if defined(ARDUINO_ARCH_ESP8266)
      		#define MY_RF24_CS_PIN 15
      	#elif defined(ARDUINO_ARCH_SAMD)
      		#define MY_RF24_CS_PIN 3
      	#else
      		#define MY_RF24_CS_PIN 10
      	#endif
      #endif
      
      /**
       * @def MY_RF24_PA_LEVEL
       * @brief Default RF24 PA level. Override in sketch if needed.
       */
      #ifndef MY_RF24_PA_LEVEL
      #define MY_RF24_PA_LEVEL RF24_PA_LOW
      #endif
      
      /**
       * @def MY_RF24_CHANNEL
       * @brief RF channel for the sensor net, 0-125.
       * Frequence: 2400 Mhz - 2525 Mhz Channels: 126
       * http://www.mysensors.org/radio/nRF24L01Plus.pdf
       * 0 => 2400 Mhz (RF24 channel 1)
       * 1 => 2401 Mhz (RF24 channel 2)
       * 76 => 2476 Mhz (RF24 channel 77)
       * 83 => 2483 Mhz (RF24 channel 84)
       * 124 => 2524 Mhz (RF24 channel 125)
       * 125 => 2525 Mhz (RF24 channel 126)
       * In some countries there might be limitations, in Germany for example only the range 2400,0 - 2483,5 Mhz is allowed
       * http://www.bundesnetzagentur.de/SharedDocs/Downloads/DE/Sachgebiete/Telekommunikation/Unternehmen_Institutionen/Frequenzen/Allgemeinzuteilungen/2013_10_WLAN_2,4GHz_pdf.pdf
       */
      #ifndef MY_RF24_CHANNEL
      #define MY_RF24_CHANNEL	76
      #endif
      
      /**
       * @def MY_RF24_DATARATE
       * @brief RF24 datarate (RF24_250KBPS for 250kbs, RF24_1MBPS for 1Mbps or RF24_2MBPS for 2Mbps).
       */
      #ifndef MY_RF24_DATARATE
      #define MY_RF24_DATARATE RF24_250KBPS
      #endif
      
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      • Tore André RosanderT Offline
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        Tore André Rosander
        wrote on last edited by
        #31

        Have you tried to use another sketch?
        Just a random mysensors sketch to see if it that one also get presented as repeater node.
        Maybe just take one with a button and make your own (if you dont have any) and see if the buttonpress gets transmitted.

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        • Tore André RosanderT Tore André Rosander

          Have you tried to use another sketch?
          Just a random mysensors sketch to see if it that one also get presented as repeater node.
          Maybe just take one with a button and make your own (if you dont have any) and see if the buttonpress gets transmitted.

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          blebbens
          wrote on last edited by
          #32

          @Tore-André-Rosander
          Have tried out different sample-sketches from library, e.g. motion and air quality.

          It is... so... frustrating. There has to be a stupid mistake causing the sensors to report their availability as repeater node.

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          • blebbensB blebbens

            @Tore-André-Rosander
            Have tried out different sample-sketches from library, e.g. motion and air quality.

            It is... so... frustrating. There has to be a stupid mistake causing the sensors to report their availability as repeater node.

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            tekka
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            wrote on last edited by tekka
            #33

            @blebbens I totally understand your frustration but I'm afraid, your issue seems HW/radio-related. The logs look normal, also the repeater node message (which is actually emitted from the GW, see your domoticz screenshot and GW log). If you can get a different pair of nRF24L01+ (the P-version), I'd retry with those.

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            • Tore André RosanderT Offline
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              Tore André Rosander
              wrote on last edited by Tore André Rosander
              #34

              Is it just me or does it look like the repeater node is not the actual sensor node?

              If you look at the logs " Gateway INTERNAL C_PRESENTATION NO S_ARDUINO_REPEATER_NODE 2.0.0" "New child discovered, node id=0, child id=internal" and "Update child id=255, type=S_ARDUINO_REPEATER_NODE"

              How about try to define the node id manually?
              And just to be sure the clear eeprom config sketch in the mySensors examples.
              You can also try the RF24 library ping-pong examples to test your radios.

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              • SGiS Offline
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                SGi
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                #35

                Ok so connections appear to be my major problem.... my dupont cables seem to be a bit dodgy... now wired with solid jumpers i can get the 'gettingstarted' sketch of the RF24 library working.

                Now i have the following log from the sensor which is encouraging but still weird:

                0_1468831166660_upload-4129d0ca-3934-4199-b4a4-5eb6553a1103

                Anything obvious now? The sketch on the sensor is the basic motionsensor one from the examples of 2.0.0 and the gateway is the serialgateway sketch... both no changes

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                • SGiS SGi

                  Ok so connections appear to be my major problem.... my dupont cables seem to be a bit dodgy... now wired with solid jumpers i can get the 'gettingstarted' sketch of the RF24 library working.

                  Now i have the following log from the sensor which is encouraging but still weird:

                  0_1468831166660_upload-4129d0ca-3934-4199-b4a4-5eb6553a1103

                  Anything obvious now? The sketch on the sensor is the basic motionsensor one from the examples of 2.0.0 and the gateway is the serialgateway sketch... both no changes

                  nielsokkerN Offline
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                  nielsokker
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #36

                  @SGi

                  I am not an expert but i had the same problem. I think a controller determines the id. But since you have none, it can't be done this way. Set a static ID with

                  #define MY_NODE_ID 11 
                  

                  or something

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                  • nielsokkerN nielsokker

                    @SGi

                    I am not an expert but i had the same problem. I think a controller determines the id. But since you have none, it can't be done this way. Set a static ID with

                    #define MY_NODE_ID 11 
                    

                    or something

                    SGiS Offline
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                    SGi
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #37

                    @nielsokker Yea you are probably right, no problem now though since as soon as i hooked it up to my controller everything works fine :) dodgy wires on the gateway was the issue all along.... using the very basic node sketch i can now see it in Domoticz and watch it turn on/off every 10 secs :)

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                    • SGiS SGi

                      @nielsokker Yea you are probably right, no problem now though since as soon as i hooked it up to my controller everything works fine :) dodgy wires on the gateway was the issue all along.... using the very basic node sketch i can now see it in Domoticz and watch it turn on/off every 10 secs :)

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                      tekka
                      Admin
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #38

                      @SGi Excellent, have fun 👍

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                      • blebbensB Offline
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                        wrote on last edited by
                        #39

                        Think, I do not understand yet.
                        The motion sketch uses #define CHILD_ID 1.
                        Where do I have to insert #define MY_NODE_ID 1 ? Just into the skecht of the motion sensor ?

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                        • blebbensB blebbens

                          Think, I do not understand yet.
                          The motion sketch uses #define CHILD_ID 1.
                          Where do I have to insert #define MY_NODE_ID 1 ? Just into the skecht of the motion sensor ?

                          Tore André RosanderT Offline
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                          Tore André Rosander
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #40

                          @blebbens i think you can just put it over "define child id"

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                          • Tore André RosanderT Tore André Rosander

                            @blebbens i think you can just put it over "define child id"

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                            nielsokker
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #41

                            @Tore-André-Rosander said:

                            define child id"

                            I think so too.

                            These are probably just minor mistakes, changing from MySensors versions.

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                              blebbens
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #42

                              So, I have to delete CHILD_ID und change it to MY_NODE_ID?

                              Okay, reaching home today, perhaps. Hope, this works.

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                                Tore André Rosander
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                                #43

                                No, just add the define node id.

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                                • blebbensB blebbens

                                  So, I have to delete CHILD_ID und change it to MY_NODE_ID?

                                  Okay, reaching home today, perhaps. Hope, this works.

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                                  nielsokker
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #44

                                  @blebbens

                                  The old define, might become useless, but it wont be in the way either. It is your choice.

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                                  • scalzS Offline
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                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #45

                                    @blebbens use MY_NODE_ID to define the id of your node. the child id is for your sensors id, not the node id.

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                                    • blebbensB blebbens

                                      So, I have to delete CHILD_ID und change it to MY_NODE_ID?

                                      Okay, reaching home today, perhaps. Hope, this works.

                                      Tore André RosanderT Offline
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                                      Tore André Rosander
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #46

                                      @blebbens I just replaced my RPi Gateway (the direct connection to GPIO) with the Serial Gateway, and the Repeater node you are seeing must be your gateway. Before i connected any nodes i got the same repeater node listed as hardware as you did, so it is probably your node that is the problem.

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                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #47

                                        I have exactly same error after loading new sketch (sensebender with BMP085). It was working fine for few days and suddenly it doesn't work. After verting my modification it doesn't work. Clear EEPROM doesn't solve the problem. RFM69W and static ID.
                                        Gateway work fine with other sensors (sensebender without mods).

                                        TSM:INIT
                                        TSM:RADIO:OK
                                        TSP:ASSIGNID:OK (ID=100)
                                        TSM:FPAR
                                        TSP:MSG:SEND 100-100-255-255 s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=bc:
                                        TSM:FPAR
                                        TSP:MSG:SEND 100-100-255-255 s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=bc:
                                        TSM:FPAR
                                        TSP:MSG:SEND 100-100-255-255 s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=bc:
                                        TSM:FPAR
                                        TSP:MSG:SEND 100-100-255-255 s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=bc:
                                        !TSM:FPAR:FAIL
                                        !TSM:FAILURE
                                        TSM:PDT
                                        
                                        
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                                        • F Fabien

                                          I have exactly same error after loading new sketch (sensebender with BMP085). It was working fine for few days and suddenly it doesn't work. After verting my modification it doesn't work. Clear EEPROM doesn't solve the problem. RFM69W and static ID.
                                          Gateway work fine with other sensors (sensebender without mods).

                                          TSM:INIT
                                          TSM:RADIO:OK
                                          TSP:ASSIGNID:OK (ID=100)
                                          TSM:FPAR
                                          TSP:MSG:SEND 100-100-255-255 s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=bc:
                                          TSM:FPAR
                                          TSP:MSG:SEND 100-100-255-255 s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=bc:
                                          TSM:FPAR
                                          TSP:MSG:SEND 100-100-255-255 s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=bc:
                                          TSM:FPAR
                                          TSP:MSG:SEND 100-100-255-255 s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=bc:
                                          !TSM:FPAR:FAIL
                                          !TSM:FAILURE
                                          TSM:PDT
                                          
                                          
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                                          Fabien
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #48

                                          Sorry, I made a mistake when updating my sketch with (deleting bad zero to change 100 to 10 ...)
                                          #define MY_RFM69_NETWORKID 100
                                          #define MY_NODE_ID 100
                                          Works fine now !

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