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💬 Door, Window and Push-button Sensor

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  • gohanG Offline
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    gohan
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    wrote on last edited by gohan
    #86

    you are at the limit of the radio range I'd say so randomly it looses a message, so you need to either increase power or get a better antenna (I hope you aren't using any buck/boost converter as power supply)

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    • gohanG gohan

      you are at the limit of the radio range I'd say so randomly it looses a message, so you need to either increase power or get a better antenna (I hope you aren't using any buck/boost converter as power supply)

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      Pavel Polititsky
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      #87

      @gohan how you know?
      Id 21 from range 0..255. Are you sure that is limit?

      Same with any different IDs, I tried sending message 3 times, this guarantees delivery of payload, but it using too much power

      Now I use power supply with 1117

      But my other nodes powered by CR2032 with boost 0.8-3.3V dc/dc with inductor coil on the NRF24 supply pin without any troubles

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      • P Pavel Polititsky

        @gohan how you know?
        Id 21 from range 0..255. Are you sure that is limit?

        Same with any different IDs, I tried sending message 3 times, this guarantees delivery of payload, but it using too much power

        Now I use power supply with 1117

        But my other nodes powered by CR2032 with boost 0.8-3.3V dc/dc with inductor coil on the NRF24 supply pin without any troubles

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        Nca78
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        wrote on last edited by
        #88

        @pavel-polititsky said in 💬 Door, Window and Push-button Sensor:

        @gohan how you know?
        Id 21 from range 0..255. Are you sure that is limit?

        He means radio range (distance) not ID of node ;)

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        • Nca78N Nca78

          @pavel-polititsky said in 💬 Door, Window and Push-button Sensor:

          @gohan how you know?
          Id 21 from range 0..255. Are you sure that is limit?

          He means radio range (distance) not ID of node ;)

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          Pavel Polititsky
          wrote on last edited by
          #89

          @nca78 oke, undestood
          Problem stiil not resolved. I want to send message again to the gateway if NACK but dont know how to do it.

          send(msg.set(value == HIGH), true); 
          

          in this case i have additional ack log in the serial debug, nothing more

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          • gohanG Offline
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            gohan
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            wrote on last edited by
            #90

            The send function returns a value, so you can check if it was successfully sent or not and in case retry

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              alowhum
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              wrote on last edited by alowhum
              #91

              A quick ACK example:

                      static boolean tryAgainLater = false; // should we resend?
              
                      if(send(msgDust.setSensor(CHILD_ID_DUST_PM25).set(sensorValue),1)){
                        Serial.println(F("Received ACK"));
                        tryAgainLater = false;
                      }else {
                        Serial.println(F("Connection problem, try again"));
                        tryAgainLater = true;
                      }
              
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              • mfalkviddM Offline
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                wrote on last edited by mfalkvidd
                #92

                There is no need to set the second parameter to send() to true. That parameter is unrelated to the return value (except very unfortunate similar naming). More info: https://github.com/mysensors/MySensors/issues/1103

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                • alowhumA Offline
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                  wrote on last edited by alowhum
                  #93

                  @mfalkvidd said in 💬 Door, Window and Push-button Sensor:

                  https://github.com/mysensors/MySensors/issues/1103

                  Ah, thanks. So ACK basically always happens?

                  in that case, do you have any better example code on how to check if the ACK is received?

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                  • alowhumA alowhum

                    @mfalkvidd said in 💬 Door, Window and Push-button Sensor:

                    https://github.com/mysensors/MySensors/issues/1103

                    Ah, thanks. So ACK basically always happens?

                    in that case, do you have any better example code on how to check if the ACK is received?

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                    mfalkvidd
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                    wrote on last edited by mfalkvidd
                    #94

                    @alowhum on nrf24, "hardware" ack is always on. "Software" ack is controlled by the second parameter in the send() function. Read https://forum.mysensors.org/post/34267 for an attempt to sort out the details. It is still quite confusing for me.

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                    • tianaT Offline
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                      tiana
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                      #95

                      What will happen if i cut the power OFF of the radio after each transmission? is it needed to be initialize again before next transmission?

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                      • tianaT tiana

                        What will happen if i cut the power OFF of the radio after each transmission? is it needed to be initialize again before next transmission?

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                        mfalkvidd
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                        #96

                        @tiana yes.

                        But don't cut the power. Use transportDisable and transportReInitialize instead.

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                        • tianaT Offline
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                          wrote on last edited by
                          #97

                          Do you know how much will be power usage in transportDisable mode?

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                          • tianaT tiana

                            Do you know how much will be power usage in transportDisable mode?

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                            mfalkvidd
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                            wrote on last edited by
                            #98

                            @tiana depends on which transport you are using, and if using genuine or clone chips. The nrf24 is rated for 900nA.

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                              #99

                              Thanks for fast reply, actually 900nA is to big number and i prefer to use xxx_POWER_PIN to cut the power of the NRF module.
                              I am building switch powered with CR2032 battery and i want to extend battery live as much as possible, for a switch is not needed to keep radio alive, i need it ON only when transmit signal

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                              • tianaT tiana

                                Thanks for fast reply, actually 900nA is to big number and i prefer to use xxx_POWER_PIN to cut the power of the NRF module.
                                I am building switch powered with CR2032 battery and i want to extend battery live as much as possible, for a switch is not needed to keep radio alive, i need it ON only when transmit signal

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                                mfalkvidd
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                                wrote on last edited by mfalkvidd
                                #100

                                @tiana 900nA on a cr2032 is 27.9 years battery life. The self discharge of a cr2032 is around 250nA.
                                But yes, use the power pin setting if you want to.

                                Would be interesting to see how long sleep times are needed to make up for the extra time needed to wake up the radio from power off compared to sleep. The mcu and the radio will need to be awake for 100ms longer time when starting from power off than when starting from sleep.

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                                  Terence Faul
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                                  #101

                                  Hi I notice that there is not sleep in this sketch. Is it not required for this build

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                                  • T Terence Faul

                                    Hi I notice that there is not sleep in this sketch. Is it not required for this build

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                                    mfalkvidd
                                    Mod
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #102

                                    @terence-faul the sketch will work as-is, as long as the node has a constant power supply. If you want a battery-powered node, you'll need sleep. See earlier discussions in this thread for ways to add sleep.

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                                      #103

                                      Hi
                                      Can i connect two sensor contact to this arduino ? First to pin 3 second to pin 4 ? But how modified this sketch to support two sensor contact ?

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                                      • pepsonP pepson

                                        Hi
                                        Can i connect two sensor contact to this arduino ? First to pin 3 second to pin 4 ? But how modified this sketch to support two sensor contact ?

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                                        skywatch
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #104

                                        @pepson If you need the node to sleep or want to use interrupts then only digital pins 2 and 3 will do this for uno/promini.

                                        So otherwise 2 options really.

                                        If you just need to know that one of the sensors triggered (but not which one) then you can add sensors in series (for normally 'closed' sensors) or parallel (for normally 'open' sensors).

                                        To use interrupt and know which sensor triggered you'd have to connect both sensor to interrupt pin with blocking diodes to digital pins as well and then on interrupt you can check which digital pin activated the isr.

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                                          pepson
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #105

                                          I need connect two contact sensor. And i want to know from two sensor his status...
                                          I need use one to door but second to door garage.

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