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  • rejoe2R Offline
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    #107

    Very strange.
    I just mad the test and copied the code (out of your post above) to my IDE, compiled and uploaded: No problem, worked fine. Node gets registered by FHEM, sends ID once and Temp regularly as expected. For testing, I used just one DS18B20, but that shouldn't make any difference. (And MySensors lib version 2.2-beta, but that also shouldn't be an issue).

    Btw: what kind of a GW you are using?
    Recently, I came across a situation with a WiFi-GW that absolutely refused to accept new nodes. Using a serial one, everything was fine... Strange thing, too. (The GW itself was ok, there were several other nodes working without any communication problems. the new HW was also ok. Last, the channel was also correct, as all the existing nodes just switched over to the serial GW.... Reflashing that nasty thing also was no solution.)

    Controller: FHEM; MySensors: 2.3.1, RS485,nRF24,RFM69, serial Gateways

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    • mfalkviddM mfalkvidd

      @Dick thanks. The node still doesn't send any values so that's why it does not show up in Domoticz.

      My next step would be to manually add serial debug prints at end of setup(), presentation(), and almost everywhere in loop(), to see why it doesn't attempt to send.

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      Dick
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      #108

      I put some deug lines i it and after uploadig the sketch it stops here (wait conversationtime.)
      setup done.
      2191 MCO:BGN:INIT OK,TSP=1
      fetch sensors.
      wait conversationtime.
      fetch sensors.
      wait conversationtime.
      fetch sensors.
      wait conversationtime.
      fetch sensors.
      wait conversationtime.
      fetch sensors.
      wait conversationtime.
      fetch sensors.
      wait conversationtime.
      fetch sensors.
      wait conversationtime.

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      • DickD Dick

        I put some deug lines i it and after uploadig the sketch it stops here (wait conversationtime.)
        setup done.
        2191 MCO:BGN:INIT OK,TSP=1
        fetch sensors.
        wait conversationtime.
        fetch sensors.
        wait conversationtime.
        fetch sensors.
        wait conversationtime.
        fetch sensors.
        wait conversationtime.
        fetch sensors.
        wait conversationtime.
        fetch sensors.
        wait conversationtime.
        fetch sensors.
        wait conversationtime.

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        Mod
        wrote on last edited by mfalkvidd
        #109

        @Dick could you try printing the value of numSensors in presentation()? (or in loop, it should have the same value there)

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        • mfalkviddM mfalkvidd

          @Dick could you try printing the value of numSensors in presentation()? (or in loop, it should have the same value there)

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          wrote on last edited by
          #110

          @mfalkvidd how can I manage that? sorr for the perhaps stupid qestion?

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          • DickD Dick

            @mfalkvidd how can I manage that? sorr for the perhaps stupid qestion?

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            Mod
            wrote on last edited by
            #111

            @Dick

            Serial.print("Number of attached sensors found by the DallasTemperature library: ");
            Serial.println(numSensors);
            
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            • mfalkviddM mfalkvidd

              @Dick

              Serial.print("Number of attached sensors found by the DallasTemperature library: ");
              Serial.println(numSensors);
              
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              wrote on last edited by
              #112

              @Dick best place would be after numSensors = ... in presentation()

              Just to mention that: The Arduino I used already had a node ID (I usually assign it manually). But your problem seems to be something completely different.

              Controller: FHEM; MySensors: 2.3.1, RS485,nRF24,RFM69, serial Gateways

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              • mfalkviddM mfalkvidd

                @Dick

                Serial.print("Number of attached sensors found by the DallasTemperature library: ");
                Serial.println(numSensors);
                
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                Dick
                wrote on last edited by
                #113

                @mfalkvidd I tried it in Presentation() and in Loop() inboth no results in the log (copied it as you advised me how to do. so no result bisible). it is getting complex I think!
                6 TSM:INIT
                7 TSF:WUR:MS=0
                14 TSM:INIT:TSP OK
                16 TSF:SID:OK,ID=12
                17 TSM:FPAR
                59 TSF:MSG:SEND,12-12-255-255,s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:
                452 TSF:MSG:READ,0-0-12,s=255,c=3,t=8,pt=1,l=1,sg=0:0
                457 TSF:MSG:FPAR OK,ID=0,D=1
                561 TSF:MSG:READ,20-20-12,s=255,c=3,t=8,pt=1,l=1,sg=0:1
                2066 TSM:FPAR:OK
                2067 TSM:ID
                2068 TSM:ID:OK
                2070 TSM:UPL
                2074 TSF:MSG:SEND,12-12-0-0,s=255,c=3,t=24,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:1
                2086 TSF:MSG:READ,0-0-12,s=255,c=3,t=25,pt=1,l=1,sg=0:1
                2092 TSF:MSG:PONG RECV,HP=1
                2094 TSM:UPL:OK
                2096 TSM:READY:ID=12,PAR=0,DIS=1
                2101 TSF:MSG:SEND,12-12-0-0,s=255,c=3,t=15,pt=6,l=2,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:0100
                2110 TSF:MSG:READ,0-0-12,s=255,c=3,t=15,pt=6,l=2,sg=0:0100
                2118 TSF:MSG:SEND,12-12-0-0,s=255,c=0,t=18,pt=0,l=5,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:2.1.1
                2127 TSF:MSG:SEND,12-12-0-0,s=255,c=3,t=6,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:0
                2142 TSF:MSG:READ,0-0-12,s=255,c=3,t=6,pt=0,l=1,sg=0:M
                2151 TSF:MSG:SEND,12-12-0-0,s=255,c=3,t=11,pt=0,l=18,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:Temperature Sensor
                2161 TSF:MSG:SEND,12-12-0-0,s=255,c=3,t=12,pt=0,l=3,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:1.2
                2168 MCO:REG:REQ
                2172 TSF:MSG:SEND,12-12-0-0,s=255,c=3,t=26,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=0,st=OK:2
                2181 TSF:MSG:READ,0-0-12,s=255,c=3,t=27,pt=1,l=1,sg=0:1
                2186 MCO:PIM:NODE REG=1
                2189 MCO:BGN:STP
                setup done.
                2190 MCO:BGN:INIT OK,TSP=1
                fetch sensors.
                wait conversationtime.
                fetch sensors.
                wait conversationtime.
                fetch sensors.
                wait conversationtime.

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                • rejoe2R Offline
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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #114

                  How are your sensors wired? Parasitic or 3 wires?
                  Sounds like a broken sensor, wrong wiring or a lot of sensors (to much for the pullup used).

                  Controller: FHEM; MySensors: 2.3.1, RS485,nRF24,RFM69, serial Gateways

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                  • mfalkviddM Offline
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                    Mod
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #115

                    Ok. I give up. If the node isn't executing the serial prints I know no way of troubleshooting.

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                    • mfalkviddM mfalkvidd

                      Ok. I give up. If the node isn't executing the serial prints I know no way of troubleshooting.

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                      wrote on last edited by
                      #116

                      @mfalkvidd I ony can tell "thanksfo the support ad you time" . Have a nice wekend!!!

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                      • skywatchS Offline
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                        wrote on last edited by
                        #117

                        I have been frustrated with this for weeks now. Today I notice that void loop is not closed with a curly brace and if I add one it does not compile.
                        So what black magic is going on here?

                        I have been trying to get sensor readings every 2 mins and battery every half hour. But whatever I try it still gives temp every minute and battery at once a minute too. No wonder my batteries are draining so fast.

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                        • skywatchS skywatch

                          I have been frustrated with this for weeks now. Today I notice that void loop is not closed with a curly brace and if I add one it does not compile.
                          So what black magic is going on here?

                          I have been trying to get sensor readings every 2 mins and battery every half hour. But whatever I try it still gives temp every minute and battery at once a minute too. No wonder my batteries are draining so fast.

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                          Mod
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #118

                          @skywatch the curly braces were discussed and explained earlier in this thread.

                          Could you post your sketch and the debug output of your node?

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                            #119

                            @mfalkvidd

                            Thanks for fast reply! See code below. If you don't see problem there I will debug tomorrow. The battery time is set for 90sec to test, but is taking 18mins between sends!

                            
                            
                            // Enable debug prints to serial monitor
                            //#define MY_DEBUG
                            
                            // Enable and select radio type attached
                            #define MY_RADIO_NRF24
                            //#define MY_RADIO_RFM69
                            #define COMPARE_TEMP 1 // Send temperature only if changed? 1 = Yes 0 = No
                            #define MY_RF24_PA_LEVEL (RF24_PA_LOW)
                            #define ONE_WIRE_BUS 3 // Pin where dallase sensor is connected 
                            #define MAX_ATTACHED_DS18B20 3
                            #include <SPI.h>
                            #include <MySensors.h>
                            #include <DallasTemperature.h>
                            #include <OneWire.h>
                            int BATTERY_SENSE_PIN = A0;  // select the input pin for the battery sense point
                            int batteryPcnt = 0;
                            unsigned long SLEEP_TIME = 117000; // Sleep time between reads (in milliseconds)
                            OneWire oneWire(ONE_WIRE_BUS); // Setup a oneWire instance to communicate with any OneWire devices (not just Maxim/Dallas temperature ICs)
                            DallasTemperature sensors(&oneWire); // Pass the oneWire reference to Dallas Temperature.
                            float lastTemperature[MAX_ATTACHED_DS18B20];
                            int numSensors = 0;
                            const long interval = 90000;
                            unsigned long previousMillis = 0;
                            bool receivedConfig = false;
                            bool metric = true;
                            // Initialize temperature message
                            MyMessage msg(0, V_TEMP);
                            
                            void before()
                            {
                              // Startup up the OneWire library
                              sensors.begin();
                            }
                            
                            void setup()
                            {
                              // requestTemperatures() will not block current thread
                              sensors.setWaitForConversion(false);
                              analogReference(INTERNAL);
                            }
                            
                            void presentation() {
                              // Send the sketch version information to the gateway and Controller
                              sendSketchInfo("HW/CH", "0.4");
                            
                              // Fetch the number of attached temperature sensors
                              numSensors = sensors.getDeviceCount();
                            
                              // Present all sensors to controller
                              for (int i = 0; i < numSensors && i < MAX_ATTACHED_DS18B20; i++) {
                                present(i, S_TEMP);
                              }
                            }
                            
                            void loop()
                            {
                              // get the battery Voltage
                              unsigned long currentMillis = millis();
                            
                              if (currentMillis - previousMillis >= interval) {
                                previousMillis = currentMillis;
                                int sensorValue = analogRead(BATTERY_SENSE_PIN);
                                batteryPcnt = sensorValue / 10;
                                sendBatteryLevel(batteryPcnt);
                              }
                            
                              // Fetch temperatures from Dallas sensors
                              sensors.requestTemperatures();
                            
                              // query conversion time and sleep until conversion completed
                              int16_t conversionTime = sensors.millisToWaitForConversion(sensors.getResolution());
                              // sleep() call can be replaced by wait() call if node need to process incoming messages (or if node is repeater)
                              sleep(conversionTime);
                            
                              // Read temperatures and send them to controller
                              for (int i = 0; i < numSensors && i < MAX_ATTACHED_DS18B20; i++) {
                            
                                // Fetch and round temperature to one decimal
                                float temperature = static_cast<float>(static_cast<int>((getControllerConfig().isMetric ? sensors.getTempCByIndex(i) : sensors.getTempFByIndex(i)) * 10.)) / 10.;
                            
                                // Only send data if temperature has changed and no error
                            #if COMPARE_TEMP == 1
                                if (lastTemperature[i] != temperature && temperature != -127.00 && temperature != 85.00) {
                            #else
                                if (temperature != -127.00 && temperature != 85.00) {
                            #endif
                            
                                  // Send in the new temperature
                                  send(msg.setSensor(i).set(temperature, 1));
                                  // Save new temperatures for next compare
                                  lastTemperature[i] = temperature;
                                }
                              }
                            
                              int8_t sleep(1, FALLING, SLEEP_TIME);
                            }```
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                            • skywatchS skywatch

                              @mfalkvidd

                              Thanks for fast reply! See code below. If you don't see problem there I will debug tomorrow. The battery time is set for 90sec to test, but is taking 18mins between sends!

                              
                              
                              // Enable debug prints to serial monitor
                              //#define MY_DEBUG
                              
                              // Enable and select radio type attached
                              #define MY_RADIO_NRF24
                              //#define MY_RADIO_RFM69
                              #define COMPARE_TEMP 1 // Send temperature only if changed? 1 = Yes 0 = No
                              #define MY_RF24_PA_LEVEL (RF24_PA_LOW)
                              #define ONE_WIRE_BUS 3 // Pin where dallase sensor is connected 
                              #define MAX_ATTACHED_DS18B20 3
                              #include <SPI.h>
                              #include <MySensors.h>
                              #include <DallasTemperature.h>
                              #include <OneWire.h>
                              int BATTERY_SENSE_PIN = A0;  // select the input pin for the battery sense point
                              int batteryPcnt = 0;
                              unsigned long SLEEP_TIME = 117000; // Sleep time between reads (in milliseconds)
                              OneWire oneWire(ONE_WIRE_BUS); // Setup a oneWire instance to communicate with any OneWire devices (not just Maxim/Dallas temperature ICs)
                              DallasTemperature sensors(&oneWire); // Pass the oneWire reference to Dallas Temperature.
                              float lastTemperature[MAX_ATTACHED_DS18B20];
                              int numSensors = 0;
                              const long interval = 90000;
                              unsigned long previousMillis = 0;
                              bool receivedConfig = false;
                              bool metric = true;
                              // Initialize temperature message
                              MyMessage msg(0, V_TEMP);
                              
                              void before()
                              {
                                // Startup up the OneWire library
                                sensors.begin();
                              }
                              
                              void setup()
                              {
                                // requestTemperatures() will not block current thread
                                sensors.setWaitForConversion(false);
                                analogReference(INTERNAL);
                              }
                              
                              void presentation() {
                                // Send the sketch version information to the gateway and Controller
                                sendSketchInfo("HW/CH", "0.4");
                              
                                // Fetch the number of attached temperature sensors
                                numSensors = sensors.getDeviceCount();
                              
                                // Present all sensors to controller
                                for (int i = 0; i < numSensors && i < MAX_ATTACHED_DS18B20; i++) {
                                  present(i, S_TEMP);
                                }
                              }
                              
                              void loop()
                              {
                                // get the battery Voltage
                                unsigned long currentMillis = millis();
                              
                                if (currentMillis - previousMillis >= interval) {
                                  previousMillis = currentMillis;
                                  int sensorValue = analogRead(BATTERY_SENSE_PIN);
                                  batteryPcnt = sensorValue / 10;
                                  sendBatteryLevel(batteryPcnt);
                                }
                              
                                // Fetch temperatures from Dallas sensors
                                sensors.requestTemperatures();
                              
                                // query conversion time and sleep until conversion completed
                                int16_t conversionTime = sensors.millisToWaitForConversion(sensors.getResolution());
                                // sleep() call can be replaced by wait() call if node need to process incoming messages (or if node is repeater)
                                sleep(conversionTime);
                              
                                // Read temperatures and send them to controller
                                for (int i = 0; i < numSensors && i < MAX_ATTACHED_DS18B20; i++) {
                              
                                  // Fetch and round temperature to one decimal
                                  float temperature = static_cast<float>(static_cast<int>((getControllerConfig().isMetric ? sensors.getTempCByIndex(i) : sensors.getTempFByIndex(i)) * 10.)) / 10.;
                              
                                  // Only send data if temperature has changed and no error
                              #if COMPARE_TEMP == 1
                                  if (lastTemperature[i] != temperature && temperature != -127.00 && temperature != 85.00) {
                              #else
                                  if (temperature != -127.00 && temperature != 85.00) {
                              #endif
                              
                                    // Send in the new temperature
                                    send(msg.setSensor(i).set(temperature, 1));
                                    // Save new temperatures for next compare
                                    lastTemperature[i] = temperature;
                                  }
                                }
                              
                                int8_t sleep(1, FALLING, SLEEP_TIME);
                              }```
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                              Mod
                              wrote on last edited by mfalkvidd
                              #120

                              @skywatch doing what you want is a bit hard since millis won't update while the node is in power save mode (sleeping). But this should do it:
                              set SLEEP_TIME = 2 * 60 * 1000 // 2 minutes
                              and change

                              void loop()
                              {
                                // get the battery Voltage
                                unsigned long currentMillis = millis();
                              
                                if (currentMillis - previousMillis >= interval) {
                                  previousMillis = currentMillis;
                                  int sensorValue = analogRead(BATTERY_SENSE_PIN);
                                  batteryPcnt = sensorValue / 10;
                                  sendBatteryLevel(batteryPcnt);
                                }
                              ...
                              

                              to

                              unsigned int batteryReportFactor = 30*60*1000ul/SLEEP_TIME; // Only report battery every x SLEEP times (x=15 with current values)
                              unsigned int timesSlept = 0;
                              void loop()
                              {
                                if (timesSlept < batteryReportFactor) {
                                  timesSlept++;
                                } else {
                                  // get the battery Voltage
                                  timesSlept = 0;
                                  int sensorValue = analogRead(BATTERY_SENSE_PIN);
                                  batteryPcnt = sensorValue / 10;
                                  sendBatteryLevel(batteryPcnt);
                                }
                              ...
                              

                              I don't understand why you're using interrupt to sleep though.

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                              • mfalkviddM mfalkvidd

                                @skywatch doing what you want is a bit hard since millis won't update while the node is in power save mode (sleeping). But this should do it:
                                set SLEEP_TIME = 2 * 60 * 1000 // 2 minutes
                                and change

                                void loop()
                                {
                                  // get the battery Voltage
                                  unsigned long currentMillis = millis();
                                
                                  if (currentMillis - previousMillis >= interval) {
                                    previousMillis = currentMillis;
                                    int sensorValue = analogRead(BATTERY_SENSE_PIN);
                                    batteryPcnt = sensorValue / 10;
                                    sendBatteryLevel(batteryPcnt);
                                  }
                                ...
                                

                                to

                                unsigned int batteryReportFactor = 30*60*1000ul/SLEEP_TIME; // Only report battery every x SLEEP times (x=15 with current values)
                                unsigned int timesSlept = 0;
                                void loop()
                                {
                                  if (timesSlept < batteryReportFactor) {
                                    timesSlept++;
                                  } else {
                                    // get the battery Voltage
                                    timesSlept = 0;
                                    int sensorValue = analogRead(BATTERY_SENSE_PIN);
                                    batteryPcnt = sensorValue / 10;
                                    sendBatteryLevel(batteryPcnt);
                                  }
                                ...
                                

                                I don't understand why you're using interrupt to sleep though.

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                                wrote on last edited by skywatch
                                #121

                                @mfalkvidd said in 💬 Temperature Sensor:
                                Thank you very much for helping out with this! - I will try it today if I can. I guess I could use the same principle to send sensor data every 2 minutes instead of every 1 minute and further reduce battery draw. I know the DS18B20 sensors are correctly going into sleep mode, but the node itself is still using too much juice.

                                @skywatch doing what you want is a bit hard since millis won't update while the node is in power save mode (sleeping).

                                There is nothing in the API about this, would be nice if it were added as I don't think I will be the only person with such requirements. Also, what does sleep actually do and are there further things I could do to reduce the power use?

                                I don't understand why you're using interrupt to sleep though.

                                That is because I haven't finished this node yet.... I am working on it systematically and in future a water leak detector will be added. But only when this part is working correctly and I have good battery life from the node.

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                                • skywatchS skywatch

                                  @mfalkvidd said in 💬 Temperature Sensor:
                                  Thank you very much for helping out with this! - I will try it today if I can. I guess I could use the same principle to send sensor data every 2 minutes instead of every 1 minute and further reduce battery draw. I know the DS18B20 sensors are correctly going into sleep mode, but the node itself is still using too much juice.

                                  @skywatch doing what you want is a bit hard since millis won't update while the node is in power save mode (sleeping).

                                  There is nothing in the API about this, would be nice if it were added as I don't think I will be the only person with such requirements. Also, what does sleep actually do and are there further things I could do to reduce the power use?

                                  I don't understand why you're using interrupt to sleep though.

                                  That is because I haven't finished this node yet.... I am working on it systematically and in future a water leak detector will be added. But only when this part is working correctly and I have good battery life from the node.

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                                  wrote on last edited by mfalkvidd
                                  #122

                                  @skywatch said in 💬 Temperature Sensor:

                                  There is nothing in the API about this, would be nice if it were added as I don't think I will be the only person with such requirements.

                                  Good point. I have added a note on https://www.mysensors.org/download/sensor_api_20#sleeping

                                  Also, what does sleep actually do and are there further things I could do to reduce the power use?

                                  It does a lot of things, but basically it puts the radio and the Arduino in power save mode and uses the Arduino's watchdog timer to roughly keep track of time (exact timing is not possible because exact timing requires power, and power save mode is all about saving power).

                                  https://www.mysensors.org/build/battery has the official MySensors recommendations on how to save power in battery-operated nodes.

                                  If you want to dive deeper, start with https://www.gammon.com.au/power

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                                    Mod
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                                    #123

                                    I'd use the sleep time to 2 minutes and then simply set a counter that every 15 loops of the code sends battery status and resets the counter. Imho 2 minutes are quite often for battery life.

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                                    • gohanG gohan

                                      I'd use the sleep time to 2 minutes and then simply set a counter that every 15 loops of the code sends battery status and resets the counter. Imho 2 minutes are quite often for battery life.

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                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #124

                                      @gohan wasn't that what I did?

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                                        #125

                                        This can't be right, can it???

                                        (http://imagebucket.net/7mtp8rcnqss2/BattGraph.jpg)

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                                        • mfalkviddM mfalkvidd

                                          @gohan wasn't that what I did?

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                                          Mod
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                                          #126

                                          @mfalkvidd I'm on mobile, I didn't read the code 😇

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