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  • NeverDieN Offline
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    NeverDie
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    #29

    In the spirit of KISS, I think in most instances the following might work well for me:

    https://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-Plastic-4-AAA-Battery-Srorage-Box-Holder-4pcs-AAA-Batteries-Case-with-a-Lid-ON/32579574841.html?spm=2114.30010308.3.2.l7ZbuM&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_5_10065_10068_10069_10017_10080_10082_10081_10060_10061_10062_10056_10055_10037_10054_10059_10032_10078_10079_10077_10073_10070_421_420_10052_10053_10050_10051,searchweb201603_4&btsid=53ae9427-799a-435b-9575-d6f3fba7ec42

    My smallest wireless node can fit inside the case along with 2x AAA batteries positioned to produce 3V, and the case already has an exposed switch to turn it on/off. Total case size is relatively small, around: 6.2 x 4.8 x 1.5cm / 2.4" x 1.9" x 0.6"(LWH)

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    • Nca78N Offline
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      #30

      I'll definitely order this and the AA version too, to check.
      In the worse case it can be used for hidden node. It should fit a dedicated PCB even with pro mini as long as the radio is SMD to be flat enough.

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      • sglueS Offline
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        #31

        Newbie here.

        I have used battery casing for sensebender & DC DC step up converter (2.5v to 5v).

        Have to do a bit of filing & swapping of battery contacts and drill hole for sensebender.

        Attach photos.

        1_1476969117224_SenseBender_2.JPG 0_1476969117224_SenseBender_1.JPG 0_1476969177222_DC DC Step up.JPG

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        • sglueS sglue

          Newbie here.

          I have used battery casing for sensebender & DC DC step up converter (2.5v to 5v).

          Have to do a bit of filing & swapping of battery contacts and drill hole for sensebender.

          Attach photos.

          1_1476969117224_SenseBender_2.JPG 0_1476969117224_SenseBender_1.JPG 0_1476969177222_DC DC Step up.JPG

          NeverDieN Offline
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          NeverDie
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          #32

          Yup, your photo captures the notion of what I'm planning to do:
          alt text

          My original inspiration for it came from this:
          http://johan.kanflo.com/the-aaduino/
          which I might have done, except that I prefer the RFM69HW, which I don't think would fit in just one battery slot very easily.

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          • NeverDieN NeverDie

            Yup, your photo captures the notion of what I'm planning to do:
            alt text

            My original inspiration for it came from this:
            http://johan.kanflo.com/the-aaduino/
            which I might have done, except that I prefer the RFM69HW, which I don't think would fit in just one battery slot very easily.

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            wrote on last edited by
            #33

            @NeverDie
            Here I just received the black "pucK' sensor case that was shown in the OP. Pretty fast considering it was free delivery using China Post. So far I like it the best because it has the air vents already a part of it. :smiley:

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            • Nca78N Offline
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              Nca78
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              wrote on last edited by
              #34

              That's why I selected it, best suited for temp sensor.

              Just received the first version of the PCB but it will need some improvements.
              But looks like it will work, not too bad for my first PCB ever :)
              0_1477804585063_IMAG1032.jpg

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              • NeverDieN NeverDie

                @NeverDie
                Here I just received the black "pucK' sensor case that was shown in the OP. Pretty fast considering it was free delivery using China Post. So far I like it the best because it has the air vents already a part of it. :smiley:

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                #35

                I really like the pcb´s you are using @NeverDie, is it possible to buy them anywhere?

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                • Cliff KarlssonC Cliff Karlsson

                  I really like the pcb´s you are using @NeverDie, is it possible to buy them anywhere?

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                  NeverDie
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                  wrote on last edited by NeverDie
                  #36

                  @Cliff-Karlsson said:

                  I really like the pcb´s you are using @NeverDie, is it possible to buy them anywhere?

                  I'm just doing this for fun. If you want to buy something pre-made, I'd suggest buying a Moteino.

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                  • NeverDieN NeverDie

                    @Cliff-Karlsson said:

                    I really like the pcb´s you are using @NeverDie, is it possible to buy them anywhere?

                    I'm just doing this for fun. If you want to buy something pre-made, I'd suggest buying a Moteino.

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                    #37

                    @NeverDie
                    Ok, but is the PCB availible at OSHpark or is the files availble for sharing?

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                    • Nca78N Nca78

                      That's why I selected it, best suited for temp sensor.

                      Just received the first version of the PCB but it will need some improvements.
                      But looks like it will work, not too bad for my first PCB ever :)
                      0_1477804585063_IMAG1032.jpg

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                      NeverDie
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                      #38

                      @Nca78

                      Are you sure there's space for the coincell holder? The case is pretty thin. I ordered some tabbed coincells, but am still waiting for them to arrive.

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                      • Cliff KarlssonC Cliff Karlsson

                        @NeverDie
                        Ok, but is the PCB availible at OSHpark or is the files availble for sharing?

                        NeverDieN Offline
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                        NeverDie
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                        wrote on last edited by
                        #39

                        @Cliff-Karlsson
                        Maybe later. I'm still improving the design.

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                        • Nca78N Nca78

                          That's why I selected it, best suited for temp sensor.

                          Just received the first version of the PCB but it will need some improvements.
                          But looks like it will work, not too bad for my first PCB ever :)
                          0_1477804585063_IMAG1032.jpg

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                          NeverDie
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                          wrote on last edited by NeverDie
                          #40

                          @Nca78 said:

                          That's why I selected it, best suited for temp sensor.

                          Just received the first version of the PCB but it will need some improvements.
                          But looks like it will work, not too bad for my first PCB ever :)

                          Here's a newer evolution of my small TH node that includes a co-planar antenna. So, no long monopole antenna sticking out of the case. :smile:
                          0_1477927911055_smallTH_case.jpg
                          I haven't attached the TH sensor yet because I've run out of them, but I'm pretty sure it will fit. :wink:

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                            NeverDie
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                            @nca78
                            What's the best way to remove the cover on this thing? Do I just go for it with a pry tool, or is there a special trick to it?

                            I'm hopeful it will fit a CR2477 tabbed battery, but it would likely be a very close fit if it does. In case it doesn't, have you come across any options that are a bit thicker?

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                            • NeverDieN NeverDie

                              So, here's an example of such a $1 solar garden light:
                              0_1476307502239_solar1.jpg

                              Don't buy them for outdoor use, although that's what they're sold for. They'll rapidly corrode in wet weather and then cease to function. However, that shouldn't be a problem indoors.

                              Demounting the solar puck, it looks like this:
                              0_1476307640950_solar2.jpg

                              Here's the flip side with the guts removed:
                              0_1476307687952_solar3.jpg

                              Inside I put one of my RFM69HW temp-RH nodes. As you can hopefully see, there is room to spare.

                              These close-up photos probably make the puck look larger than it is. It is just 2-1/4" in diameter and 1-1/8" tall.

                              What do you think? Would it have good WAF? This one is a bit crufty because it was outside for about a year, and then I plucked it for these photos. When brand new they look more clean and polished, and so perhaps if kept indoors they would stay that way.

                              One possible concern with this particular example is that it has a metal band around it. That's not so ideal for an RF node, but it may not matter, as I tested the PCB node (just by itself, without the solar puck) within a closed refrigerator and still got adequate signal from it.

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                              wrote on last edited by
                              #42

                              @NeverDie said:

                              One possible concern with this particular example is that it has a metal band around it. That's not so ideal for an RF node, but it may not matter, as I tested the PCB node (just by itself, without the solar puck) within a closed refrigerator and still got adequate signal from it.

                              I tried running one of my nodes inside the solar puck that has the metal band (above). It's maybe a few dB worse, but the link budget is large enough that it just doesn't really matter. So, I think it remains a viable option as an enclosure for thicker nodes that don't easily fit inside the OP's thinner recharger puck.

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                              • NeverDieN NeverDie

                                @nca78
                                What's the best way to remove the cover on this thing? Do I just go for it with a pry tool, or is there a special trick to it?

                                I'm hopeful it will fit a CR2477 tabbed battery, but it would likely be a very close fit if it does. In case it doesn't, have you come across any options that are a bit thicker?

                                Nca78N Offline
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                                Nca78
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                                wrote on last edited by
                                #43

                                @NeverDie said:

                                @nca78
                                What's the best way to remove the cover on this thing? Do I just go for it with a pry tool, or is there a special trick to it?

                                I'm hopeful it will fit a CR2477 tabbed battery, but it would likely be a very close fit if it does. In case it doesn't, have you come across any options that are a bit thicker?

                                Sorry no magic solution to open :)

                                For the cell it should fit a 2477 but you need a thin PCB + thin holder.
                                Box is 10.6mm high minus 1.2mm thickness for the cover and 0.8mm PCB it leaves you with 8.6mm. 2477 is 7.7mm so you have 1mm left, not much but I think just enough if you use basic holder that's just made of a folded metal sheet.
                                But for such a basic sensor you would not need such a huge cell, CR2032 should last a very long time already, and 2450 could match your need of extra long lifetime and at the same time easily fit in the box. If your sketch is programmed correctly by the time a 2450 is dead the sensor will probably have become completely off because of aging ;)

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                                • NeverDieN Offline
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                                  NeverDie
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                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #44

                                  I received the Q8 wireless charging pad (above):
                                  http://www.ebay.com/itm/Q8-QI-Wireless-Charging-Pad-2-USB-Port-Splitter-HUB-Charger-Pad-For-Phone-F5/301913729117?_trksid=p2047675.c100623.m-1&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D39345%26meid%3Decb1959e8f164eb5ad0a17aeaa297f59%26pid%3D100623%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D252485416371

                                  However, it is even thinner than the OP's vented puck, and it's about double the square inches of foot print. So I don't see any real advantage to them.

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                                    #45

                                    For a thicker case, Amazon Dot looks like it might be very nice:
                                    alt text
                                    A bit pricey though!

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                                    • NeverDieN NeverDie

                                      I received the Q8 wireless charging pad (above):
                                      http://www.ebay.com/itm/Q8-QI-Wireless-Charging-Pad-2-USB-Port-Splitter-HUB-Charger-Pad-For-Phone-F5/301913729117?_trksid=p2047675.c100623.m-1&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D39345%26meid%3Decb1959e8f164eb5ad0a17aeaa297f59%26pid%3D100623%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D252485416371

                                      However, it is even thinner than the OP's vented puck, and it's about double the square inches of foot print. So I don't see any real advantage to them.

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                                      Nca78
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                                      #46

                                      @NeverDie said:

                                      I received the Q8 wireless charging pad (above):
                                      http://www.ebay.com/itm/Q8-QI-Wireless-Charging-Pad-2-USB-Port-Splitter-HUB-Charger-Pad-For-Phone-F5/301913729117?_trksid=p2047675.c100623.m-1&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D39345%26meid%3Decb1959e8f164eb5ad0a17aeaa297f59%26pid%3D100623%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D252485416371

                                      However, it is even thinner than the OP's vented puck, and it's about double the square inches of foot print. So I don't see any real advantage to them.

                                      I have ordered one also (In fact two as aliexpress payment messed up and asked me to process payment again, but few days after I realized the "failed" payment was in fact processed and sellers were sending everything twice...).
                                      I'm planning to use one as gateway box with wemos d1 mini and smd pa/lna NRF24 side by side. Any chance it will fit this type of ESP board inside or it's too thin and I should go for ESP12 module instead ?

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                                      • Nca78N Nca78

                                        @NeverDie said:

                                        I received the Q8 wireless charging pad (above):
                                        http://www.ebay.com/itm/Q8-QI-Wireless-Charging-Pad-2-USB-Port-Splitter-HUB-Charger-Pad-For-Phone-F5/301913729117?_trksid=p2047675.c100623.m-1&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D39345%26meid%3Decb1959e8f164eb5ad0a17aeaa297f59%26pid%3D100623%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D252485416371

                                        However, it is even thinner than the OP's vented puck, and it's about double the square inches of foot print. So I don't see any real advantage to them.

                                        I have ordered one also (In fact two as aliexpress payment messed up and asked me to process payment again, but few days after I realized the "failed" payment was in fact processed and sellers were sending everything twice...).
                                        I'm planning to use one as gateway box with wemos d1 mini and smd pa/lna NRF24 side by side. Any chance it will fit this type of ESP board inside or it's too thin and I should go for ESP12 module instead ?

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                                        wrote on last edited by
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                                        @Nca78 said:

                                        @NeverDie said:

                                        I received the Q8 wireless charging pad (above):
                                        http://www.ebay.com/itm/Q8-QI-Wireless-Charging-Pad-2-USB-Port-Splitter-HUB-Charger-Pad-For-Phone-F5/301913729117?_trksid=p2047675.c100623.m-1&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D39345%26meid%3Decb1959e8f164eb5ad0a17aeaa297f59%26pid%3D100623%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D252485416371

                                        However, it is even thinner than the OP's vented puck, and it's about double the square inches of foot print. So I don't see any real advantage to them.

                                        I have ordered one also (In fact two as aliexpress payment messed up and asked me to process payment again, but few days after I realized the "failed" payment was in fact processed and sellers were sending everything twice...).
                                        I'm planning to use one as gateway box with wemos d1 mini and smd pa/lna NRF24 side by side. Any chance it will fit this type of ESP board inside or it's too thin and I should go for ESP12 module instead ?

                                        I just now measured the D1Mini, and it's about 6.7mm thick. If you removed the USB connector, it would be thinner.

                                        I haven't opened the QB wireless pad, so I don't know how much depth is available. However, the case itself is 8.5mm thick. In comparison, I measure the case thickness of your OP puck as 11.7mm.

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                                        • NeverDieN NeverDie

                                          @Nca78 said:

                                          @NeverDie said:

                                          I received the Q8 wireless charging pad (above):
                                          http://www.ebay.com/itm/Q8-QI-Wireless-Charging-Pad-2-USB-Port-Splitter-HUB-Charger-Pad-For-Phone-F5/301913729117?_trksid=p2047675.c100623.m-1&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D39345%26meid%3Decb1959e8f164eb5ad0a17aeaa297f59%26pid%3D100623%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D252485416371

                                          However, it is even thinner than the OP's vented puck, and it's about double the square inches of foot print. So I don't see any real advantage to them.

                                          I have ordered one also (In fact two as aliexpress payment messed up and asked me to process payment again, but few days after I realized the "failed" payment was in fact processed and sellers were sending everything twice...).
                                          I'm planning to use one as gateway box with wemos d1 mini and smd pa/lna NRF24 side by side. Any chance it will fit this type of ESP board inside or it's too thin and I should go for ESP12 module instead ?

                                          I just now measured the D1Mini, and it's about 6.7mm thick. If you removed the USB connector, it would be thinner.

                                          I haven't opened the QB wireless pad, so I don't know how much depth is available. However, the case itself is 8.5mm thick. In comparison, I measure the case thickness of your OP puck as 11.7mm.

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                                          @NeverDie said:

                                          I haven't opened the QB wireless pad, so I don't know how much depth is available. However, the case itself is 8.5mm thick. In comparison, I measure the case thickness of your OP puck as 11.7mm.

                                          Thank you. Sounds like it won't fit :(
                                          For Amazon Dot yes it looks great, but 50$ is a bit too expensive for a case :D

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