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  • Roberto BrunialtiR Offline
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    Roberto Brunialti
    wrote on last edited by Roberto Brunialti
    #273

    Hi guys. I'm waiting for your board!
    the only concern is about the 2xAA batteries adoption that could increase the overall size of a sensor node to a "normal node" size ( http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/s/devduino.html?search_in_description=0).
    I would like a stack as following: battery+board+radio. with the same footprint of the radio module.
    The battery could be a CR123 with regulator, and the holder could be a pcb holder as this: http://www.memoryprotectiondevices.com/datasheets/BH-CR2-PC-datasheet.pdf
    I actually ordered some of these: http://www.elecrow.com/devduino-sensor-node-v4-atmega-328-p-1201.html, at this moment the closest to my size requirements.
    What do you think.?

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    • Roberto BrunialtiR Roberto Brunialti

      Hi guys. I'm waiting for your board!
      the only concern is about the 2xAA batteries adoption that could increase the overall size of a sensor node to a "normal node" size ( http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/s/devduino.html?search_in_description=0).
      I would like a stack as following: battery+board+radio. with the same footprint of the radio module.
      The battery could be a CR123 with regulator, and the holder could be a pcb holder as this: http://www.memoryprotectiondevices.com/datasheets/BH-CR2-PC-datasheet.pdf
      I actually ordered some of these: http://www.elecrow.com/devduino-sensor-node-v4-atmega-328-p-1201.html, at this moment the closest to my size requirements.
      What do you think.?

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      AWI
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      #274

      @Roberto-Brunialti I am looking forward to this board also. I deployed a few Devduino V4's. These are really well built but lack the "minimal" size, have only a few connectors (enough in most cases as a good temp/hum sensor is on board).. And "restrict" you to the use of non-rechargable CR123 cells (3V,no regulator). I will love the very small footprint combined with the flexibility in power sources (and extra features) in the "Minimal design thoughts" design. :heart_eyes:

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        Think we should rename the thread to "Mysensors Micro" as this is the new name, since it's the first "official" board from mysensors.

        Anyway, just got a couple of pictures from the factory in China, they have build the first batch of 5 pcb's that they are verifying at the moment, and then they should be shipped to us (either @hek or me?) and then we need to verify it, before giving a go on the production.

        So we are comming closer to a "launch" of the device.

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        • tbowmoT tbowmo

          Think we should rename the thread to "Mysensors Micro" as this is the new name, since it's the first "official" board from mysensors.

          Anyway, just got a couple of pictures from the factory in China, they have build the first batch of 5 pcb's that they are verifying at the moment, and then they should be shipped to us (either @hek or me?) and then we need to verify it, before giving a go on the production.

          So we are comming closer to a "launch" of the device.

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          #276

          @tbowmo

          Yep, might also be good to create a new thread in Announcement when it has been launched (and is for sale) with a back-reference here for history/design decisions made by you.

          I should probably start working on a more complete page on the main site with more details and illustrations.

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            Tibus
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            #277

            In your design, C3, the nrf 4u7 capacitor, is a classic ceramic capacitor. In the mysensors tutorial, they write a polarized capacitor is better for the NRF. I use tantalum capacitor wich are bigger but is there a difference with the ceramic one for the nrf. I would like to use a ceramic 0603 too if there is no difference for nrf.

            Thank's

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            • tbowmoT Offline
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              #278

              @Tibus

              In theory ceramic capacitors should be better, it has a lower ESR, and are better suited to reduce ripple, or noise on the supply locally, as it has a faster response to power requirements, than equivalent electrolytic capacitors.

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              • M Offline
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                Mickey
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                #279

                will it be possible to use this board pcb without soldering the sensor , flash and security chip?

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                • M Mickey

                  will it be possible to use this board pcb without soldering the sensor , flash and security chip?

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                  @Mickey

                  Yes, you can use it without those mounted. But I don't think that we are going to sell it without those components mounted

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                  • Roberto BrunialtiR Offline
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                    Roberto Brunialti
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                    #281

                    Any good news about the d-day (delivery day :smiley: ) ?

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                    • hekH Offline
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                      #282

                      Small production run of 200 units started this morning. :)

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                      • hekH hek

                        Small production run of 200 units started this morning. :)

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                        #283

                        @hek said:

                        Small production run of 200 units started this morning. :)

                        You would run-out of units very soon...

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                        • Roberto BrunialtiR Offline
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                          Roberto Brunialti
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                          #284

                          when preorders will be available ?

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                          • Roberto BrunialtiR Roberto Brunialti

                            when preorders will be available ?

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                            #285

                            @Roberto-Brunialti

                            I will check with Itead Studio if their shop can handle pre-orders.

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                            • M Mickey

                              @hek said:

                              Small production run of 200 units started this morning. :)

                              You would run-out of units very soon...

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                              tbowmo
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                              @Mickey

                              Then we will make another 200 (or more, depending on requests) :)

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                                #287

                                What's the expected price point for these?

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                                  tbowmo
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                                  @hautomate

                                  They are going for 14$ plus shipping.. Expected shipping date is set to 20th of May.

                                  (the project is receiving about 1$ for each unit sold)

                                  / Thomas

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                                    gadu
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                                    #289

                                    Oh! Where do I order?! Been waiting for this!

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                                    • tbowmoT Offline
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                                      tbowmo
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                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #290

                                      @gadu

                                      An initial product page is up at iteadstudio : http://imall.iteadstudio.com/mysensors-micro.html

                                      We are working on updating product description etc.

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                                        Dwalt
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                                        #291

                                        FYI - ITead is already taking preorders for the board.

                                        Veralite UI5 :: IBoard Ethernet GW :: MyS 1.5

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                                        • Roberto BrunialtiR Offline
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                                          #292

                                          Hi, I have ordered some boards from Itead. Just some doubts: is the board a 5v or a 3.3? what's about nrf24 decoupling capacitor? May I assume the nrf24 is correctly powered at 3.3 V by the board?
                                          Sorry but i'm on the "soft" side more than the "hard" ...:-)

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