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  • Roberto BrunialtiR Roberto Brunialti

    Hi guys. I'm waiting for your board!
    the only concern is about the 2xAA batteries adoption that could increase the overall size of a sensor node to a "normal node" size ( http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/s/devduino.html?search_in_description=0).
    I would like a stack as following: battery+board+radio. with the same footprint of the radio module.
    The battery could be a CR123 with regulator, and the holder could be a pcb holder as this: http://www.memoryprotectiondevices.com/datasheets/BH-CR2-PC-datasheet.pdf
    I actually ordered some of these: http://www.elecrow.com/devduino-sensor-node-v4-atmega-328-p-1201.html, at this moment the closest to my size requirements.
    What do you think.?

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    @Roberto-Brunialti I am looking forward to this board also. I deployed a few Devduino V4's. These are really well built but lack the "minimal" size, have only a few connectors (enough in most cases as a good temp/hum sensor is on board).. And "restrict" you to the use of non-rechargable CR123 cells (3V,no regulator). I will love the very small footprint combined with the flexibility in power sources (and extra features) in the "Minimal design thoughts" design. :heart_eyes:

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      Think we should rename the thread to "Mysensors Micro" as this is the new name, since it's the first "official" board from mysensors.

      Anyway, just got a couple of pictures from the factory in China, they have build the first batch of 5 pcb's that they are verifying at the moment, and then they should be shipped to us (either @hek or me?) and then we need to verify it, before giving a go on the production.

      So we are comming closer to a "launch" of the device.

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      • tbowmoT tbowmo

        Think we should rename the thread to "Mysensors Micro" as this is the new name, since it's the first "official" board from mysensors.

        Anyway, just got a couple of pictures from the factory in China, they have build the first batch of 5 pcb's that they are verifying at the moment, and then they should be shipped to us (either @hek or me?) and then we need to verify it, before giving a go on the production.

        So we are comming closer to a "launch" of the device.

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        @tbowmo

        Yep, might also be good to create a new thread in Announcement when it has been launched (and is for sale) with a back-reference here for history/design decisions made by you.

        I should probably start working on a more complete page on the main site with more details and illustrations.

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          In your design, C3, the nrf 4u7 capacitor, is a classic ceramic capacitor. In the mysensors tutorial, they write a polarized capacitor is better for the NRF. I use tantalum capacitor wich are bigger but is there a difference with the ceramic one for the nrf. I would like to use a ceramic 0603 too if there is no difference for nrf.

          Thank's

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            @Tibus

            In theory ceramic capacitors should be better, it has a lower ESR, and are better suited to reduce ripple, or noise on the supply locally, as it has a faster response to power requirements, than equivalent electrolytic capacitors.

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              #279

              will it be possible to use this board pcb without soldering the sensor , flash and security chip?

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              • M Mickey

                will it be possible to use this board pcb without soldering the sensor , flash and security chip?

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                @Mickey

                Yes, you can use it without those mounted. But I don't think that we are going to sell it without those components mounted

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                  #281

                  Any good news about the d-day (delivery day :smiley: ) ?

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                    Small production run of 200 units started this morning. :)

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                    • hekH hek

                      Small production run of 200 units started this morning. :)

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                      @hek said:

                      Small production run of 200 units started this morning. :)

                      You would run-out of units very soon...

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                        when preorders will be available ?

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                        • Roberto BrunialtiR Roberto Brunialti

                          when preorders will be available ?

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                          @Roberto-Brunialti

                          I will check with Itead Studio if their shop can handle pre-orders.

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                          • M Mickey

                            @hek said:

                            Small production run of 200 units started this morning. :)

                            You would run-out of units very soon...

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                            @Mickey

                            Then we will make another 200 (or more, depending on requests) :)

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                              What's the expected price point for these?

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                                @hautomate

                                They are going for 14$ plus shipping.. Expected shipping date is set to 20th of May.

                                (the project is receiving about 1$ for each unit sold)

                                / Thomas

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                                  Oh! Where do I order?! Been waiting for this!

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                                    @gadu

                                    An initial product page is up at iteadstudio : http://imall.iteadstudio.com/mysensors-micro.html

                                    We are working on updating product description etc.

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                                      FYI - ITead is already taking preorders for the board.

                                      Veralite UI5 :: IBoard Ethernet GW :: MyS 1.5

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                                        Hi, I have ordered some boards from Itead. Just some doubts: is the board a 5v or a 3.3? what's about nrf24 decoupling capacitor? May I assume the nrf24 is correctly powered at 3.3 V by the board?
                                        Sorry but i'm on the "soft" side more than the "hard" ...:-)

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                                        • Roberto BrunialtiR Roberto Brunialti

                                          Hi, I have ordered some boards from Itead. Just some doubts: is the board a 5v or a 3.3? what's about nrf24 decoupling capacitor? May I assume the nrf24 is correctly powered at 3.3 V by the board?
                                          Sorry but i'm on the "soft" side more than the "hard" ...:-)

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                                          @Roberto-Brunialti The board is "2XAA" battery, in other words; 3V. Some components on the board won't survive 5V so it is important not to use that voltage. Decoupling for the radio is onboard.

                                          Do you feel secure today? No? Start requiring some signatures and feel better tomorrow ;)

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