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conecting the radio module on a MEGA 2560 ?? !!

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  • samdelS samdel

    i used Mfalkvidd advices ......
    its working better but stil not recognised from the gateway

    Starting sensor (RNNNA-, 2.0.0)
    TSM:INIT
    TSM:RADIO:OK
    TSM:FPAR
    TSP:MSG:SEND 255-255-255-255 s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=bc:
    TSM:FPAR
    TSP:MSG:SEND 255-255-255-255 s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=bc:
    TSM:FPAR
    TSP:MSG:SEND 255-255-255-255 s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=bc:
    TSM:FPAR
    TSP:MSG:SEND 255-255-255-255 s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=bc:
    !TSM:FPAR:FAIL
    !TSM:FAILURE
    TSM:PDT

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    wrote on last edited by
    #6

    @samdel great work. Could you post the log from the gateway?

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      0;255;3;0;9;Starting gateway (RNNGA-, 2.0.0)
      0;255;3;0;9;TSM:INIT
      0;255;3;0;9;TSM:RADIO:OK
      0;255;3;0;9;TSM:GW MODE
      0;255;3;0;9;TSM:READY
      IP: 192.168.1.19
      0;255;3;0;9;No registration required
      0;255;3;0;9;Init complete, id=0, parent=0, distance=0, registration=1
      0;255;3;0;9;TSP:MSG:READ 1-1-255 s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0:
      0;255;3;0;9;TSP:MSG:BC
      0;255;3;0;9;TSP:MSG:FPAR REQ (sender=1)
      0;255;3;0;9;TSP:CHKUPL:OK (FLDCTRL)
      0;255;3;0;9;TSP:MSG:GWL OK
      0;255;3;0;9;!TSP:MSG:SEND 0-0-1-1 s=255,c=3,t=8,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=0,st=fail:0
      0;255;3;0;9;TSP:MSG:READ 255-255-255 s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0:
      0;255;3;0;9;TSP:MSG:BC
      0;255;3;0;9;TSP:MSG:FPAR REQ (sender=255)
      0;255;3;0;9;TSP:CHKUPL:OK (FLDCTRL)
      0;255;3;0;9;TSP:MSG:GWL OK
      0;255;3;0;9;TSP:MSG:SEND 0-0-255-255 s=255,c=3,t=8,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=0,st=bc:0
      0;255;3;0;9;TSP:MSG:READ 14-14-255 s=255,c=3,t=8,pt=1,l=1,sg=0:1
      0;255;3;0;9;TSP:MSG:BC
      0;255;3;0;9;TSP:MSG:READ 0-14-255 s=255,c=3,t=8,pt=1,l=1,sg=0:0
      0;255;3;0;9;TSP:MSG:BC
      0;255;3;0;9;TSP:MSG:READ 255-255-255 s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0:
      0;255;3;0;9;TSP:MSG:BC
      0;255;3;0;9;TSP:MSG:FPAR REQ (sender=255)
      0;255;3;0;9;TSP:CHKUPL:OK (FLDCTRL)
      0;255;3;0;9;TSP:MSG:GWL OK
      0;255;3;0;9;TSP:MSG:SEND 0-0-255-255 s=255,c=3,t=8,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=0,st=bc:0
      0;255;3;0;9;TSP:MSG:READ 14-14-255 s=255,c=3,t=8,pt=1,l=1,sg=0:1
      0;255;3;0;9;TSP:MSG:BC
      0;255;3;0;9;TSP:MSG:READ 0-14-255 s=255,c=3,t=8,pt=1,l=1,sg=0:0
      0;255;3;0;9;TSP:MSG:BC
      0;255;3;0;9;TSP:MSG:READ 1-1-255 s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0:
      0;255;3;0;9;TSP:MSG:BC
      0;255;3;0;9;TSP:MSG:FPAR REQ (sender=1)
      0;255;3;0;9;TSP:CHKUPL:OK (FLDCTRL)
      0;255;3;0;9;TSP:MSG:GWL OK
      0;255;3;0;9;!TSP:MSG:SEND 0-0-1-1 s=255,c=3,t=8,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=0,st=fail:0
      0;255;3;0;9;TSP:MSG:READ 255-255-255 s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0:
      0;255;3;0;9;TSP:MSG:BC
      0;255;3;0;9;TSP:MSG:FPAR REQ (sender=255)
      0;255;3;0;9;TSP:CHKUPL:OK (FLDCTRL)
      0;255;3;0;9;TSP:MSG:GWL OK
      0;255;3;0;9;TSP:MSG:SEND 0-0-255-255 s=255,c=3,t=8,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=0,st=bc:0
      0;255;3;0;9;TSP:MSG:READ 14-14-255 s=255,c=3,t=8,pt=1,l=1,sg=0:1
      0;255;3;0;9;TSP:MSG:BC
      0;255;3;0;9;TSP:MSG:READ 0-14-255 s=255,c=3,t=8,pt=1,l=1,sg=0:0
      0;255;3;0;9;TSP:MSG:BC
      0;255;3;0;9;TSP:MSG:READ 1-1-255 s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0:
      0;255;3;0;9;TSP:MSG:BC
      0;255;3;0;9;TSP:MSG:FPAR REQ (sender=1)
      0;255;3;0;9;TSP:CHKUPL:OK (FLDCTRL)
      0;255;3;0;9;TSP:MSG:GWL OK
      0;255;3;0;9;!TSP:MSG:SEND 0-0-1-1 s=255,c=3,t=8,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=0,st=fail:0
      0;255;3;0;9;TSP:MSG:READ 255-255-255 s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0:
      0;255;3;0;9;TSP:MSG:BC

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        wrote on last edited by
        #8

        befor was the serial monitor of the gateway and below is the sketch i an using in the mega :

        // Enable debug prints to serial monitor
        #define MY_DEBUG

        // Enable and select radio type attached
        #define MY_RADIO_NRF24

        #define SN "RelayButtonArray"
        #define SV "1.0"

        // Pin Confuguration for Arduino Mega
        #define MY_RF24_CE_PIN 40
        #define MY_RF24_CS_PIN 53
        #include <MySensors.h>
        #include <SPI.h>
        #include <Bounce2.h>
        #define RELAY_ON 0 // switch around for ACTIVE LOW / ACTIVE HIGH relay
        #define RELAY_OFF 1
        //

        #define noRelays 8 //2-4
        const int relayPin[] = {2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12, 14, 16}; // switch around pins to your desire
        const int buttonPin[] = {3, 5, 7, 9, 11, 13, 15, 17}; // switch around pins to your desire

        class Relay // relay class, store all relevant data (equivalent to struct)
        {
        public:
        int buttonPin; // physical pin number of button
        int relayPin; // physical pin number of relay
        boolean relayState; // relay status (also stored in EEPROM)
        };

        Relay Relays[noRelays];
        Bounce debouncer[noRelays];
        MyMessage msg[noRelays];

        /*
        void before() {
        for (int sensor=1, pin=RELAY_1; sensor<=NUMBER_OF_RELAYS;sensor++, pin++) {
        // Then set relay pins in output mode
        pinMode(pin, OUTPUT);
        // Set relay to last known state (using eeprom storage)
        digitalWrite(pin, loadState(sensor)?RELAY_ON:RELAY_OFF);
        }
        }*/

        void setup() {
        wait(100);
        // Initialize Relays with corresponding buttons
        for (int i = 0; i < noRelays; i++) {
        Relays[i].buttonPin = buttonPin[i]; // assign physical pins
        Relays[i].relayPin = relayPin[i];
        msg[i].sensor = i; // initialize messages
        msg[i].type = V_LIGHT;
        pinMode(Relays[i].buttonPin, INPUT_PULLUP);
        wait(100);
        pinMode(Relays[i].relayPin, OUTPUT);
        Relays[i].relayState = loadState(i); // retrieve last values from EEPROM
        digitalWrite(Relays[i].relayPin, Relays[i].relayState ? RELAY_ON : RELAY_OFF); // and set relays accordingly
        send(msg[i].set(Relays[i].relayState ? true : false)); // make controller aware of last status
        wait(50);
        debouncer[i] = Bounce(); // initialize debouncer
        debouncer[i].attach(buttonPin[i]);
        debouncer[i].interval(30);
        wait(50);
        }
        }

        void presentation()
        {
        // Send the sketch version information to the gateway and Controller
        sendSketchInfo(SN, SV);

        wait(100);

        for (int i = 0; i < noRelays; i++)
        present(i, S_LIGHT); // present sensor to gateway

        wait(100);
        }

        void loop()
        {
        for (byte i = 0; i < noRelays; i++) {
        if (debouncer[i].update()) {

          int value = debouncer[i].read();
          
          if ( value == LOW) {
            Relays[i].relayState = !Relays[i].relayState;
            digitalWrite(Relays[i].relayPin, Relays[i].relayState ? RELAY_ON : RELAY_OFF);
            send(msg[i].set(Relays[i].relayState ? true : false));
            // save sensor state in EEPROM (location == sensor number)
            saveState( i, Relays[i].relayState );
        
          }
        
        }
        

        }
        //wait(20);
        }

        void receive(const MyMessage &message) {
        if (message.type == V_LIGHT) {
        if (message.sensor < noRelays) { // check if message is valid for relays..... previous line [[[ if (message.sensor <=noRelays){ ]]]
        Relays[message.sensor].relayState = message.getBool();
        digitalWrite(Relays[message.sensor].relayPin, Relays[message.sensor].relayState ? RELAY_ON : RELAY_OFF); // and set relays accordingly
        saveState( message.sensor, Relays[message.sensor].relayState ); // save sensor state in EEPROM (location == sensor number)
        }
        }
        wait(20);
        }

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        • samdelS samdel

          befor was the serial monitor of the gateway and below is the sketch i an using in the mega :

          // Enable debug prints to serial monitor
          #define MY_DEBUG

          // Enable and select radio type attached
          #define MY_RADIO_NRF24

          #define SN "RelayButtonArray"
          #define SV "1.0"

          // Pin Confuguration for Arduino Mega
          #define MY_RF24_CE_PIN 40
          #define MY_RF24_CS_PIN 53
          #include <MySensors.h>
          #include <SPI.h>
          #include <Bounce2.h>
          #define RELAY_ON 0 // switch around for ACTIVE LOW / ACTIVE HIGH relay
          #define RELAY_OFF 1
          //

          #define noRelays 8 //2-4
          const int relayPin[] = {2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12, 14, 16}; // switch around pins to your desire
          const int buttonPin[] = {3, 5, 7, 9, 11, 13, 15, 17}; // switch around pins to your desire

          class Relay // relay class, store all relevant data (equivalent to struct)
          {
          public:
          int buttonPin; // physical pin number of button
          int relayPin; // physical pin number of relay
          boolean relayState; // relay status (also stored in EEPROM)
          };

          Relay Relays[noRelays];
          Bounce debouncer[noRelays];
          MyMessage msg[noRelays];

          /*
          void before() {
          for (int sensor=1, pin=RELAY_1; sensor<=NUMBER_OF_RELAYS;sensor++, pin++) {
          // Then set relay pins in output mode
          pinMode(pin, OUTPUT);
          // Set relay to last known state (using eeprom storage)
          digitalWrite(pin, loadState(sensor)?RELAY_ON:RELAY_OFF);
          }
          }*/

          void setup() {
          wait(100);
          // Initialize Relays with corresponding buttons
          for (int i = 0; i < noRelays; i++) {
          Relays[i].buttonPin = buttonPin[i]; // assign physical pins
          Relays[i].relayPin = relayPin[i];
          msg[i].sensor = i; // initialize messages
          msg[i].type = V_LIGHT;
          pinMode(Relays[i].buttonPin, INPUT_PULLUP);
          wait(100);
          pinMode(Relays[i].relayPin, OUTPUT);
          Relays[i].relayState = loadState(i); // retrieve last values from EEPROM
          digitalWrite(Relays[i].relayPin, Relays[i].relayState ? RELAY_ON : RELAY_OFF); // and set relays accordingly
          send(msg[i].set(Relays[i].relayState ? true : false)); // make controller aware of last status
          wait(50);
          debouncer[i] = Bounce(); // initialize debouncer
          debouncer[i].attach(buttonPin[i]);
          debouncer[i].interval(30);
          wait(50);
          }
          }

          void presentation()
          {
          // Send the sketch version information to the gateway and Controller
          sendSketchInfo(SN, SV);

          wait(100);

          for (int i = 0; i < noRelays; i++)
          present(i, S_LIGHT); // present sensor to gateway

          wait(100);
          }

          void loop()
          {
          for (byte i = 0; i < noRelays; i++) {
          if (debouncer[i].update()) {

            int value = debouncer[i].read();
            
            if ( value == LOW) {
              Relays[i].relayState = !Relays[i].relayState;
              digitalWrite(Relays[i].relayPin, Relays[i].relayState ? RELAY_ON : RELAY_OFF);
              send(msg[i].set(Relays[i].relayState ? true : false));
              // save sensor state in EEPROM (location == sensor number)
              saveState( i, Relays[i].relayState );
          
            }
          
          }
          

          }
          //wait(20);
          }

          void receive(const MyMessage &message) {
          if (message.type == V_LIGHT) {
          if (message.sensor < noRelays) { // check if message is valid for relays..... previous line [[[ if (message.sensor <=noRelays){ ]]]
          Relays[message.sensor].relayState = message.getBool();
          digitalWrite(Relays[message.sensor].relayPin, Relays[message.sensor].relayState ? RELAY_ON : RELAY_OFF); // and set relays accordingly
          saveState( message.sensor, Relays[message.sensor].relayState ); // save sensor state in EEPROM (location == sensor number)
          }
          }
          wait(20);
          }

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          Mod
          wrote on last edited by mfalkvidd
          #9

          @samdel the gateway receives the request for parens and replies, but the sensor does not "hear" the reply.

          See https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/666/debug-faq-and-how-ask-for-help for information on how to troubleshoot range and power issues.

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            wrote on last edited by
            #10

            i double (triple) checked connections all ok
            i checkes power suplies ; all ok
            i have condansators installed on each nrf24
            and i am testing it on my desk so no long distance to travel...
            ......

            i tried to assigne a node id ;

            Starting sensor (RNNNA-, 2.0.0)
            TSM:INIT
            TSM:RADIO:OK
            TSP:ASSIGNID:OK (ID=44)
            TSM:FPAR
            TSP:MSG:SEND 44-44-255-255 s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=bc:
            TSM:FPAR
            TSP:MSG:SEND 44-44-255-255 s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=bc:
            TSM:FPAR
            TSP:MSG:SEND 44-44-255-255 s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=bc:
            TSM:FPAR
            TSP:MSG:SEND 44-44-255-255 s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=bc:
            !TSM:FPAR:FAIL
            !TSM:FAILURE
            TSM:PDT
            TSM:INIT
            TSM:RADIO:OK
            TSP:ASSIGNID:OK (ID=44)
            TSM:FPAR
            TSP:MSG:SEND 44-44-255-255 s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=bc:
            TSM:FPAR
            TSP:MSG:SEND 44-44-255-255 s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=bc:
            TSM:FPAR
            TSP:MSG:SEND 44-44-255-255 s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=bc:
            TSM:FPAR
            TSP:MSG:SEND 44-44-255-255 s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=bc:
            !TSM:FPAR:FAIL
            !TSM:FAILURE
            TSM:PDT
            TSM:INIT

            gateway ;
            0;255;3;0;9;Starting gateway (RNNGA-, 2.0.0)
            0;255;3;0;9;TSM:INIT
            0;255;3;0;9;TSM:RADIO:OK
            0;255;3;0;9;TSM:GW MODE
            0;255;3;0;9;TSM:READY
            IP: 192.168.1.19
            0;255;3;0;9;No registration required
            0;255;3;0;9;Init complete, id=0, parent=0, distance=0, registration=1
            0;255;3;0;9;TSP:MSG:READ 1-1-255 s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0:
            0;255;3;0;9;TSP:MSG:BC
            0;255;3;0;9;TSP:MSG:FPAR REQ (sender=1)
            0;255;3;0;9;TSP:CHKUPL:OK (FLDCTRL)
            0;255;3;0;9;TSP:MSG:GWL OK
            0;255;3;0;9;!TSP:MSG:SEND 0-0-1-1 s=255,c=3,t=8,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=0,st=fail:0
            0;255;3;0;9;TSP:MSG:READ 44-44-255 s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0:
            0;255;3;0;9;TSP:MSG:BC
            0;255;3;0;9;TSP:MSG:FPAR REQ (sender=44)
            0;255;3;0;9;TSP:CHKUPL:OK (FLDCTRL)
            0;255;3;0;9;TSP:MSG:GWL OK
            0;255;3;0;9;!TSP:MSG:SEND 0-0-44-44 s=255,c=3,t=8,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=0,st=fail:0
            0;255;3;0;9;TSP:MSG:READ 61-61-0 s=1,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0:20.9
            0;255;3;0;9;TSP:MSG:READ 61-61-0 s=0,c=1,t=1,pt=7,l=5,sg=0:33.3
            0;255;3;0;9;TSP:MSG:READ 44-44-255 s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0:
            0;255;3;0;9;TSP:MSG:BC
            0;255;3;0;9;TSP:MSG:FPAR REQ (sender=44)
            0;255;3;0;9;TSP:CHKUPL:OK (FLDCTRL)
            0;255;3;0;9;TSP:MSG:GWL OK

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            • samdelS samdel

              i double (triple) checked connections all ok
              i checkes power suplies ; all ok
              i have condansators installed on each nrf24
              and i am testing it on my desk so no long distance to travel...
              ......

              i tried to assigne a node id ;

              Starting sensor (RNNNA-, 2.0.0)
              TSM:INIT
              TSM:RADIO:OK
              TSP:ASSIGNID:OK (ID=44)
              TSM:FPAR
              TSP:MSG:SEND 44-44-255-255 s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=bc:
              TSM:FPAR
              TSP:MSG:SEND 44-44-255-255 s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=bc:
              TSM:FPAR
              TSP:MSG:SEND 44-44-255-255 s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=bc:
              TSM:FPAR
              TSP:MSG:SEND 44-44-255-255 s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=bc:
              !TSM:FPAR:FAIL
              !TSM:FAILURE
              TSM:PDT
              TSM:INIT
              TSM:RADIO:OK
              TSP:ASSIGNID:OK (ID=44)
              TSM:FPAR
              TSP:MSG:SEND 44-44-255-255 s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=bc:
              TSM:FPAR
              TSP:MSG:SEND 44-44-255-255 s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=bc:
              TSM:FPAR
              TSP:MSG:SEND 44-44-255-255 s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=bc:
              TSM:FPAR
              TSP:MSG:SEND 44-44-255-255 s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0,ft=0,st=bc:
              !TSM:FPAR:FAIL
              !TSM:FAILURE
              TSM:PDT
              TSM:INIT

              gateway ;
              0;255;3;0;9;Starting gateway (RNNGA-, 2.0.0)
              0;255;3;0;9;TSM:INIT
              0;255;3;0;9;TSM:RADIO:OK
              0;255;3;0;9;TSM:GW MODE
              0;255;3;0;9;TSM:READY
              IP: 192.168.1.19
              0;255;3;0;9;No registration required
              0;255;3;0;9;Init complete, id=0, parent=0, distance=0, registration=1
              0;255;3;0;9;TSP:MSG:READ 1-1-255 s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0:
              0;255;3;0;9;TSP:MSG:BC
              0;255;3;0;9;TSP:MSG:FPAR REQ (sender=1)
              0;255;3;0;9;TSP:CHKUPL:OK (FLDCTRL)
              0;255;3;0;9;TSP:MSG:GWL OK
              0;255;3;0;9;!TSP:MSG:SEND 0-0-1-1 s=255,c=3,t=8,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=0,st=fail:0
              0;255;3;0;9;TSP:MSG:READ 44-44-255 s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0:
              0;255;3;0;9;TSP:MSG:BC
              0;255;3;0;9;TSP:MSG:FPAR REQ (sender=44)
              0;255;3;0;9;TSP:CHKUPL:OK (FLDCTRL)
              0;255;3;0;9;TSP:MSG:GWL OK
              0;255;3;0;9;!TSP:MSG:SEND 0-0-44-44 s=255,c=3,t=8,pt=1,l=1,sg=0,ft=0,st=fail:0
              0;255;3;0;9;TSP:MSG:READ 61-61-0 s=1,c=1,t=0,pt=7,l=5,sg=0:20.9
              0;255;3;0;9;TSP:MSG:READ 61-61-0 s=0,c=1,t=1,pt=7,l=5,sg=0:33.3
              0;255;3;0;9;TSP:MSG:READ 44-44-255 s=255,c=3,t=7,pt=0,l=0,sg=0:
              0;255;3;0;9;TSP:MSG:BC
              0;255;3;0;9;TSP:MSG:FPAR REQ (sender=44)
              0;255;3;0;9;TSP:CHKUPL:OK (FLDCTRL)
              0;255;3;0;9;TSP:MSG:GWL OK

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              @samdel does it start working if you move the sensor and the gateway further apart? There have been several cases where people have had trouble when the nodes are too close.

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                The 3v3 line on mega was super noisy when I used it. I had to put a step down from the 5V rail.

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                  2 metres away stillthe same result

                  i also tried to load an other sketch asthe one i was using was tuned by me....
                  still the same

                  i finaly tried using an other arduinoboard (original one) and it is working good......

                  the one who was not working correctly was this one ;
                  https://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B00OPO44UE/ref=ox_sc_act_title_32?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A21548PJTFXT87

                  di i have to put it to trash or is there a way to test it or to make it working ???

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                    hi Hek

                    how do you measur the noisyness?? with a fluck in AC ?? what are the limits .?

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                      @samdel said:

                      how do you measur the noisyness

                      Empirically, I just couldn't get it working.

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