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HC-SR501 3.3V randomly sends tripped when radio is on

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  • B burningstone

    @Yveaux
    Thank you very much.
    I'll order a battery pack for 3 batteries, currently I have only a pack for 2 batteries.

    How long does it take approximately till the batteries are empty? I know that it depends on how frequent the sensor gets triggered, but maybe you can tell me some average values.

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    mfalkvidd
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    #26

    @burningstone if you don't want to wait for the 3xAA holder you can do like this
    0_1490128739892_pir.png

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      #27

      @mfalkvidd
      Awesome! How do i connect the wires to the battery? Solder them or what?

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      • B burningstone

        @mfalkvidd
        Awesome! How do i connect the wires to the battery? Solder them or what?

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        mfalkvidd
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        #28

        @burningstone the ugly way is to solder :) It works, but becomes a quite permanent solution.
        I prefer using scotch tape. Or, if you have an extra 2xAA holder you can do like this (skip the fourth battery):
        0_1490130384837_pir2.png

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          burningstone
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          #29

          @mfalkvidd
          And how can i tape the wire on the side of the battery holder? My battery holder package already has two wires connected like in the fritzing pictures.

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            gohan
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            Or put the wire between the battery and spring/contact

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            • B burningstone

              @mfalkvidd
              And how can i tape the wire on the side of the battery holder? My battery holder package already has two wires connected like in the fritzing pictures.

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              Yveaux
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              #31

              @burningstone tape a wire directly on the battery, or solder to the battery or the holder.
              Look what you have lying around and be creative!
              That's what MySensors is about!

              http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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              • YveauxY Yveaux

                @burningstone tape a wire directly on the battery, or solder to the battery or the holder.
                Look what you have lying around and be creative!
                That's what MySensors is about!

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                burningstone
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                #32

                @Yveaux
                Sorry I have been a long time away due to exams.
                Now I finally have time to spend for mysensors :)

                I tried your approach with the three batteries. My setup looks like this:

                0_1497178432582_Motion Light.PNG

                I modified the HC-SR501 as shown below:

                0_1497178475013_HC-SR501.jpg

                The sketch is pretty simple, it sends the motion and the light level and then goes to sleep with interrupt for 30 minutes. I still get the false positives whenever the arduino doesn't wake up from intrerrupt.

                What am I doing wrong?

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                  gohan
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                  #33

                  Try adding a cap on the power of the pir sensor, start from 10uf and try to increase up to 100uf and see if it gets better

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                  • B burningstone

                    @Yveaux
                    Sorry I have been a long time away due to exams.
                    Now I finally have time to spend for mysensors :)

                    I tried your approach with the three batteries. My setup looks like this:

                    0_1497178432582_Motion Light.PNG

                    I modified the HC-SR501 as shown below:

                    0_1497178475013_HC-SR501.jpg

                    The sketch is pretty simple, it sends the motion and the light level and then goes to sleep with interrupt for 30 minutes. I still get the false positives whenever the arduino doesn't wake up from intrerrupt.

                    What am I doing wrong?

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                    Yveaux
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                    wrote on last edited by
                    #34

                    @burningstone what MySensors version are you running? I did solve an issue with waking from interrupts in 2.2 beta, that's still present in 2.1.x. This might be what's bothering you...

                    http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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                    • B burningstone

                      @Yveaux
                      Sorry I have been a long time away due to exams.
                      Now I finally have time to spend for mysensors :)

                      I tried your approach with the three batteries. My setup looks like this:

                      0_1497178432582_Motion Light.PNG

                      I modified the HC-SR501 as shown below:

                      0_1497178475013_HC-SR501.jpg

                      The sketch is pretty simple, it sends the motion and the light level and then goes to sleep with interrupt for 30 minutes. I still get the false positives whenever the arduino doesn't wake up from intrerrupt.

                      What am I doing wrong?

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                      m26872
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                      @burningstone You probably want to find the root cause to this but, as a quick fix, have you tried software-blocking the false trip with an additional sleep before the interrupt-activating sleep? Something like sleep(3000); before the last sleep(...). I do it with success for my mini-pirs.

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                        burningstone
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                        #36

                        @Yveaux @gohan
                        I updated the library to 2.2 and I put a 47uf cap between ground and vcc of the pir (hope that's what you mean't) and now it works.

                        Thanks for your help!

                        I soldered now everything onto a pcb and now the pir doesn't work. I feel like giving up, didn't think that it would be that hard for me to build one stable node. I spent almost 2 hours soldering and assembling and now it doesn't work :(

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                        • m26872M m26872

                          @burningstone You probably want to find the root cause to this but, as a quick fix, have you tried software-blocking the false trip with an additional sleep before the interrupt-activating sleep? Something like sleep(3000); before the last sleep(...). I do it with success for my mini-pirs.

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                          @m26872 Thanks for this suggestion. I have had some PIR sensors that work normally and others that always trip immediately after going to sleep. It was really frustrating me. Adding the short sleep without interrupts solved this for me.

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                            gohan
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                            #38

                            the standard cheap PIR sensors are known to trigger false positives because of power fluctuations

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                            • B burningstone

                              @Yveaux @gohan
                              I updated the library to 2.2 and I put a 47uf cap between ground and vcc of the pir (hope that's what you mean't) and now it works.

                              Thanks for your help!

                              I soldered now everything onto a pcb and now the pir doesn't work. I feel like giving up, didn't think that it would be that hard for me to build one stable node. I spent almost 2 hours soldering and assembling and now it doesn't work :(

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                              dbemowsk
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                              @burningstone Check connections with a continuity tester and measure your voltages coming to the arduino and PIR. When checking continuity, check directly from the jack on the PIR and/or temp sensor to the pro mini terminals, and also check pins near the connections for any possible shorts.

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