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  • korttomaK Offline
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    korttoma
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    wrote on last edited by korttoma
    #1357

    Just received these tiny NRF51822 devices and would like to turn them in to MySensors 1 button scencontroller.
    Where should I start?

    1. I guess I will need some kind of USB adapter ti program them. Think I read somewhere about JLink. Would this do?

    0_1515562170867_20180110_071948.jpg

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    • korttomaK korttoma

      Just received these tiny NRF51822 devices and would like to turn them in to MySensors 1 button scencontroller.
      Where should I start?

      1. I guess I will need some kind of USB adapter ti program them. Think I read somewhere about JLink. Would this do?

      0_1515562170867_20180110_071948.jpg

      Nca78N Offline
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      Nca78
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      wrote on last edited by
      #1358

      @korttoma did you check here ?
      https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/6705/mysensors-nrf5-platform

      For programming the best solution is probably the NRF52 DK, it's not very expensive (30€) and you avoid all the problems related to license of the fake JLINKs (and bricking of the device if you happen to accept the invitation to update the outdated firmware on it), as it includes official licence for programming all nrf5 chips.
      https://www.arrow.com/en/products/nrf52-dk/nordic-semiconductor

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      • MiKaM Offline
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        wrote on last edited by
        #1359

        Hi,
        Working without problem with mysensors, I use STLink v2 from Aliexpress. LED and Button are mapped on pins 28 and 29 :)

        0_1515563097508_IMG-0324.JPG

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        • MiKaM MiKa

          Hi,
          Working without problem with mysensors, I use STLink v2 from Aliexpress. LED and Button are mapped on pins 28 and 29 :)

          0_1515563097508_IMG-0324.JPG

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          korttoma
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          wrote on last edited by
          #1360

          @mika :+1:

          Now I feel stupid ordering the NRF52 DK for 28€. Well atleast I don't need to worry about bricking any devices.
          Do you have an example sketch for the device you can share?
          Is it possible to somehow monitor the battery status?

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          • korttomaK korttoma

            @mika :+1:

            Now I feel stupid ordering the NRF52 DK for 28€. Well atleast I don't need to worry about bricking any devices.
            Do you have an example sketch for the device you can share?
            Is it possible to somehow monitor the battery status?

            NeverDieN Offline
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            NeverDie
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            wrote on last edited by
            #1361

            @korttoma said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

            Is it possible to somehow monitor the battery status?

            One of @d00616 's demo sketches allows you to read the voltage that's powering the nRF5. Assuming there is no booster involved on this device (seems unlikely), that would be the same as the battery voltage.

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            • korttomaK korttoma

              Just received these tiny NRF51822 devices and would like to turn them in to MySensors 1 button scencontroller.
              Where should I start?

              1. I guess I will need some kind of USB adapter ti program them. Think I read somewhere about JLink. Would this do?

              0_1515562170867_20180110_071948.jpg

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              wrote on last edited by
              #1362

              @korttoma do you have an Aliexpress link to them?

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              • T Toyman

                @korttoma do you have an Aliexpress link to them?

                korttomaK Offline
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                korttoma
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                wrote on last edited by
                #1363

                @toyman sure do LINK

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                • korttomaK korttoma

                  @toyman sure do LINK

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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #1364

                  @korttoma thx. Do they have a CR2032 slot? Sorry, it's not clear from the pictures

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                  • T Toyman

                    @korttoma thx. Do they have a CR2032 slot? Sorry, it's not clear from the pictures

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                    #1365

                    @toyman yes

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                    • NeverDieN Offline
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                      NeverDie
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                      #1366

                      It would probably do well as a "one button scene controller," but is it good for anything else I wonder?

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                      • NeverDieN NeverDie

                        It would probably do well as a "one button scene controller," but is it good for anything else I wonder?

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                        korttoma
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                        wrote on last edited by
                        #1367

                        @neverdie does not seem to be any easy way to get access to any of the pins on the board but who does not need a bunch of "one button scene controllers"?

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                          Nca78
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                          wrote on last edited by
                          #1368

                          I was tempted to try adding the missing accelerometer too, but in the end it's easier and cheaper to make a board with the 2$ module.

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                            wrote on last edited by NeverDie
                            #1369

                            Speaking of which, I shrunk the HolyIOT board a bit and added the small buzzer:
                            0_1515684827265_HolyIOT_buzzer_top.png
                            Hopefully this is small enough that it can be used as a locator beacon.

                            It turns out this is pretty nearly the minimum size, even if the HolyIOT were smaller, because of the CR2032 battery underneath it. Anyway, that's an interesting result, because the BC182 is smaller than the HolyIOT, but I wouldn't get the benefit of it.

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                              Speaking of which, I shrunk the HolyIOT board a bit and added the small buzzer:
                              0_1515684827265_HolyIOT_buzzer_top.png
                              Hopefully this is small enough that it can be used as a locator beacon.

                              It turns out this is pretty nearly the minimum size, even if the HolyIOT were smaller, because of the CR2032 battery underneath it. Anyway, that's an interesting result, because the BC182 is smaller than the HolyIOT, but I wouldn't get the benefit of it.

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                              wrote on last edited by
                              #1370

                              @neverdie said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                              small buzzer:
                              CR2032 battery

                              If I'm not wrong this buzzer needs over 100mA, not sure it's a good match for a CR2032 ?

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                              • MiKaM MiKa

                                Hi,
                                Working without problem with mysensors, I use STLink v2 from Aliexpress. LED and Button are mapped on pins 28 and 29 :)

                                0_1515563097508_IMG-0324.JPG

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                                wrote on last edited by
                                #1371

                                @mika said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                                Hi,
                                Working without problem with mysensors, I use STLink v2 from Aliexpress. LED and Button are mapped on pins 28 and 29 :)

                                0_1515563097508_IMG-0324.JPG

                                Im just reporting sketch from NeverDie ;)

                                https://www.openhardware.io/view/510/Multi-Sensor-TempHumidityPIR-LeakMagnetLightAccel

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                                • Nca78N Nca78

                                  @neverdie said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                                  small buzzer:
                                  CR2032 battery

                                  If I'm not wrong this buzzer needs over 100mA, not sure it's a good match for a CR2032 ?

                                  NeverDieN Offline
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                                  NeverDie
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                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #1372

                                  @nca78 said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                                  @neverdie said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                                  small buzzer:
                                  CR2032 battery

                                  If I'm not wrong this buzzer needs over 100mA, not sure it's a good match for a CR2032 ?

                                  I like how nothing slips past you! Yes, it's a pretty severe trade-off in exchange for its small size. So, I'll be using two CR2032's and make it run only in very short bursts. I honestly don't know how well or badly it will turn out.

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                                  • NeverDieN NeverDie

                                    @nca78 said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                                    @neverdie said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                                    small buzzer:
                                    CR2032 battery

                                    If I'm not wrong this buzzer needs over 100mA, not sure it's a good match for a CR2032 ?

                                    I like how nothing slips past you! Yes, it's a pretty severe trade-off in exchange for its small size. So, I'll be using two CR2032's and make it run only in very short bursts. I honestly don't know how well or badly it will turn out.

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                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #1373

                                    @neverdie said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                                    I like how nothing slips past you! Yes, it's a pretty severe trade-off in exchange for its small size. So, I'll be using two CR2032's and make it run only in very short bursts. I honestly don't know how well or badly it will turn out.

                                    I don't see anything to co trim such a high current on your board ? Maybe it's the reason the sound level is low on your other board, max current of the MCU pin is much lower than what the buzzer needs ?

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                                      @neverdie said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                                      I like how nothing slips past you! Yes, it's a pretty severe trade-off in exchange for its small size. So, I'll be using two CR2032's and make it run only in very short bursts. I honestly don't know how well or badly it will turn out.

                                      I don't see anything to co trim such a high current on your board ? Maybe it's the reason the sound level is low on your other board, max current of the MCU pin is much lower than what the buzzer needs ?

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                                      wrote on last edited by NeverDie
                                      #1374

                                      @nca78 said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                                      @neverdie said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                                      I like how nothing slips past you! Yes, it's a pretty severe trade-off in exchange for its small size. So, I'll be using two CR2032's and make it run only in very short bursts. I honestly don't know how well or badly it will turn out.

                                      I don't see anything to co trim such a high current on your board ? Maybe it's the reason the sound level is low on your other board, max current of the MCU pin is much lower than what the buzzer needs ?

                                      What does "co trim" mean?

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                                      • NeverDieN NeverDie

                                        @nca78 said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                                        @neverdie said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                                        I like how nothing slips past you! Yes, it's a pretty severe trade-off in exchange for its small size. So, I'll be using two CR2032's and make it run only in very short bursts. I honestly don't know how well or badly it will turn out.

                                        I don't see anything to co trim such a high current on your board ? Maybe it's the reason the sound level is low on your other board, max current of the MCU pin is much lower than what the buzzer needs ?

                                        What does "co trim" mean?

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                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #1375

                                        @neverdie said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                                        What does "co trim" mean?

                                        Sorry phone rewriting what I type.
                                        "Control".
                                        MCU pins can't source that much current and I see no transistor on your board to do it ?
                                        If you put a reserve capacitor big enough to supply 100+mA long enough to make some sound on the buzzer, will you not fry the pin ?

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                                        • Nca78N Nca78

                                          @neverdie said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                                          What does "co trim" mean?

                                          Sorry phone rewriting what I type.
                                          "Control".
                                          MCU pins can't source that much current and I see no transistor on your board to do it ?
                                          If you put a reserve capacitor big enough to supply 100+mA long enough to make some sound on the buzzer, will you not fry the pin ?

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                                          NeverDie
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                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #1376

                                          @nca78

                                          The present design uses a TPS22860 load switch to turn on and off the buzzer. I'm not trying to power the buzzer directly from one of the nRF52832 pins, because the current would be outside the maximum limits for the nRF52832 pin. I'm hoping the two CR2032's will give enough headroom that the voltage (after the LDO) will be stable.

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