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  • korttomaK korttoma

    @toyman sure do LINK

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    @korttoma thx. Do they have a CR2032 slot? Sorry, it's not clear from the pictures

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    • T Toyman

      @korttoma thx. Do they have a CR2032 slot? Sorry, it's not clear from the pictures

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      @toyman yes

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        #1366

        It would probably do well as a "one button scene controller," but is it good for anything else I wonder?

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        • NeverDieN NeverDie

          It would probably do well as a "one button scene controller," but is it good for anything else I wonder?

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          @neverdie does not seem to be any easy way to get access to any of the pins on the board but who does not need a bunch of "one button scene controllers"?

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            #1368

            I was tempted to try adding the missing accelerometer too, but in the end it's easier and cheaper to make a board with the 2$ module.

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              #1369

              Speaking of which, I shrunk the HolyIOT board a bit and added the small buzzer:
              0_1515684827265_HolyIOT_buzzer_top.png
              Hopefully this is small enough that it can be used as a locator beacon.

              It turns out this is pretty nearly the minimum size, even if the HolyIOT were smaller, because of the CR2032 battery underneath it. Anyway, that's an interesting result, because the BC182 is smaller than the HolyIOT, but I wouldn't get the benefit of it.

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              • NeverDieN NeverDie

                Speaking of which, I shrunk the HolyIOT board a bit and added the small buzzer:
                0_1515684827265_HolyIOT_buzzer_top.png
                Hopefully this is small enough that it can be used as a locator beacon.

                It turns out this is pretty nearly the minimum size, even if the HolyIOT were smaller, because of the CR2032 battery underneath it. Anyway, that's an interesting result, because the BC182 is smaller than the HolyIOT, but I wouldn't get the benefit of it.

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                #1370

                @neverdie said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                small buzzer:
                CR2032 battery

                If I'm not wrong this buzzer needs over 100mA, not sure it's a good match for a CR2032 ?

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                • MiKaM MiKa

                  Hi,
                  Working without problem with mysensors, I use STLink v2 from Aliexpress. LED and Button are mapped on pins 28 and 29 :)

                  0_1515563097508_IMG-0324.JPG

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                  @mika said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                  Hi,
                  Working without problem with mysensors, I use STLink v2 from Aliexpress. LED and Button are mapped on pins 28 and 29 :)

                  0_1515563097508_IMG-0324.JPG

                  Im just reporting sketch from NeverDie ;)

                  https://www.openhardware.io/view/510/Multi-Sensor-TempHumidityPIR-LeakMagnetLightAccel

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                  • Nca78N Nca78

                    @neverdie said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                    small buzzer:
                    CR2032 battery

                    If I'm not wrong this buzzer needs over 100mA, not sure it's a good match for a CR2032 ?

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                    @nca78 said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                    @neverdie said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                    small buzzer:
                    CR2032 battery

                    If I'm not wrong this buzzer needs over 100mA, not sure it's a good match for a CR2032 ?

                    I like how nothing slips past you! Yes, it's a pretty severe trade-off in exchange for its small size. So, I'll be using two CR2032's and make it run only in very short bursts. I honestly don't know how well or badly it will turn out.

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                    • NeverDieN NeverDie

                      @nca78 said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                      @neverdie said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                      small buzzer:
                      CR2032 battery

                      If I'm not wrong this buzzer needs over 100mA, not sure it's a good match for a CR2032 ?

                      I like how nothing slips past you! Yes, it's a pretty severe trade-off in exchange for its small size. So, I'll be using two CR2032's and make it run only in very short bursts. I honestly don't know how well or badly it will turn out.

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                      @neverdie said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                      I like how nothing slips past you! Yes, it's a pretty severe trade-off in exchange for its small size. So, I'll be using two CR2032's and make it run only in very short bursts. I honestly don't know how well or badly it will turn out.

                      I don't see anything to co trim such a high current on your board ? Maybe it's the reason the sound level is low on your other board, max current of the MCU pin is much lower than what the buzzer needs ?

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                      • Nca78N Nca78

                        @neverdie said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                        I like how nothing slips past you! Yes, it's a pretty severe trade-off in exchange for its small size. So, I'll be using two CR2032's and make it run only in very short bursts. I honestly don't know how well or badly it will turn out.

                        I don't see anything to co trim such a high current on your board ? Maybe it's the reason the sound level is low on your other board, max current of the MCU pin is much lower than what the buzzer needs ?

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                        #1374

                        @nca78 said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                        @neverdie said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                        I like how nothing slips past you! Yes, it's a pretty severe trade-off in exchange for its small size. So, I'll be using two CR2032's and make it run only in very short bursts. I honestly don't know how well or badly it will turn out.

                        I don't see anything to co trim such a high current on your board ? Maybe it's the reason the sound level is low on your other board, max current of the MCU pin is much lower than what the buzzer needs ?

                        What does "co trim" mean?

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                        • NeverDieN NeverDie

                          @nca78 said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                          @neverdie said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                          I like how nothing slips past you! Yes, it's a pretty severe trade-off in exchange for its small size. So, I'll be using two CR2032's and make it run only in very short bursts. I honestly don't know how well or badly it will turn out.

                          I don't see anything to co trim such a high current on your board ? Maybe it's the reason the sound level is low on your other board, max current of the MCU pin is much lower than what the buzzer needs ?

                          What does "co trim" mean?

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                          @neverdie said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                          What does "co trim" mean?

                          Sorry phone rewriting what I type.
                          "Control".
                          MCU pins can't source that much current and I see no transistor on your board to do it ?
                          If you put a reserve capacitor big enough to supply 100+mA long enough to make some sound on the buzzer, will you not fry the pin ?

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                          • Nca78N Nca78

                            @neverdie said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                            What does "co trim" mean?

                            Sorry phone rewriting what I type.
                            "Control".
                            MCU pins can't source that much current and I see no transistor on your board to do it ?
                            If you put a reserve capacitor big enough to supply 100+mA long enough to make some sound on the buzzer, will you not fry the pin ?

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                            #1376

                            @nca78

                            The present design uses a TPS22860 load switch to turn on and off the buzzer. I'm not trying to power the buzzer directly from one of the nRF52832 pins, because the current would be outside the maximum limits for the nRF52832 pin. I'm hoping the two CR2032's will give enough headroom that the voltage (after the LDO) will be stable.

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                            • NeverDieN NeverDie

                              @nca78

                              The present design uses a TPS22860 load switch to turn on and off the buzzer. I'm not trying to power the buzzer directly from one of the nRF52832 pins, because the current would be outside the maximum limits for the nRF52832 pin. I'm hoping the two CR2032's will give enough headroom that the voltage (after the LDO) will be stable.

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                              #1377

                              @neverdie didn't now this chip, nice one thank you I've added it to my next order.
                              Seems I should have a better look at your designs :)

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                              • Nca78N Nca78

                                I received the "holyiot" modules and they are really, really tiny. 2 attached together are exactly the same size than the 51822-04 module. WL-CSP package is very impressive: small, very thin and with a cool shinny surface.
                                This module has inductors for DC/DC mode, and pins .00 and .01 are mapped so it's possible to add low frequency crystal for Bluetooth mode.
                                0_1513949915111_IMAG2106~2.jpg

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                                #1378

                                @nca78 said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                                I received the "holyiot" modules and they are really, really tiny. 2 attached together are exactly the same size than the 51822-04 module. WL-CSP package is very impressive: small, very thin and with a cool shinny surface.
                                This module has inductors for DC/DC mode, and pins .00 and .01 are mapped so it's possible to add low frequency crystal for Bluetooth mode.
                                0_1513949915111_IMAG2106~2.jpg

                                Have you tried uploading anything to the HolyIOT modules? I've now tried on two different HolyIOT modules, both without success. :(

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                                • NeverDieN NeverDie

                                  @nca78 said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                                  I received the "holyiot" modules and they are really, really tiny. 2 attached together are exactly the same size than the 51822-04 module. WL-CSP package is very impressive: small, very thin and with a cool shinny surface.
                                  This module has inductors for DC/DC mode, and pins .00 and .01 are mapped so it's possible to add low frequency crystal for Bluetooth mode.
                                  0_1513949915111_IMAG2106~2.jpg

                                  Have you tried uploading anything to the HolyIOT modules? I've now tried on two different HolyIOT modules, both without success. :(

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                                  @neverdie said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                                  Have you tried uploading anything to the HolyIOT modules? I've now tried on two different HolyIOT modules, both without success. :(

                                  Sorry not yet, I've just re-plugged my NRF5 board and I'm figuring out how to program external board. I'll do it with a board I know works, then try the holyiot module;

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                                  • Nca78N Nca78

                                    @neverdie said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                                    Have you tried uploading anything to the HolyIOT modules? I've now tried on two different HolyIOT modules, both without success. :(

                                    Sorry not yet, I've just re-plugged my NRF5 board and I'm figuring out how to program external board. I'll do it with a board I know works, then try the holyiot module;

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                                    @nca78 It's a tricky module to solder (probably the most tricky of them all that I've tried so far), so to eliminate that concern on the second module I flipped it over and soldered wires directly to the four essential pads. That way I could visually confirm that it was soldered correctly. Still fails. So, just FYI.

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                                    • NeverDieN NeverDie

                                      @nca78 It's a tricky module to solder (probably the most tricky of them all that I've tried so far), so to eliminate that concern on the second module I flipped it over and soldered wires directly to the four essential pads. That way I could visually confirm that it was soldered correctly. Still fails. So, just FYI.

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                                      I think I see the problem. These pinouts are inconsistent:
                                      alt text
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                                      I had been basing it on the first one, whereas I'm now guessing that the second one is probably the correct one.

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                                      • NeverDieN NeverDie

                                        I think I see the problem. These pinouts are inconsistent:
                                        alt text
                                        alt text

                                        I had been basing it on the first one, whereas I'm now guessing that the second one is probably the correct one.

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                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #1382

                                        Confirmed. That was the problem. Using the second pinout, it now uploads.

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                                          wrote on last edited by NeverDie
                                          #1383

                                          I have the HolyIOT blinking an LED and receiving packets now. Range, as I suspected, is rather mediocre, but that's probably an inherent trade-off for its small size. For my purposes I don't think it will matter.

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