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  • NeverDieN NeverDie

    @nagelc No, you want to change the values in the MyBoardNRF5.h file instead. For an example, see the source code in: https://www.openhardware.io/view/499/10-years-wireless-PIR-Sensor-on-just-one-set-of-3-AAs#tabs-source

    So, in your case, you'd want:

    #define PIN_SERIAL_TX       (10)
    

    and, to avoid conflicts, make sure that pin P0.10 isn't defined anywhere in the same .h file as something else already. If it is, you may need to change that as well.

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    wrote on last edited by
    #1416

    @neverdie
    It worked! I used pin 26 as in your example and now can get the debug messages. Also thanks for the many other NRF5 routines you had in the example.

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      #1417

      How can I connect to DEC5 as an I/O when using MyBoardNRF5?

      The Ebyte Module Datasheet says: 14 DEC5 Input/Output MCU GPIO to it should be possible?

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      • O Omemanti

        How can I connect to DEC5 as an I/O when using MyBoardNRF5?

        The Ebyte Module Datasheet says: 14 DEC5 Input/Output MCU GPIO to it should be possible?

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        NeverDie
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        wrote on last edited by NeverDie
        #1418

        @omemanti Suggest you check the Nordic datasheet on that rather than rely on the Ebyte documentation. IIRC, the DECT pins are not GPIO, but it's worth your double checking the nRF52 datasheet if it's important to you.

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        • NeverDieN NeverDie

          @omemanti Suggest you check the Nordic datasheet on that rather than rely on the Ebyte documentation. IIRC, the DECT pins are not GPIO, but it's worth your double checking the nRF52 datasheet if it's important to you.

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          #1419

          @neverdie, Indeed, I checked and it was false. well goes to show that late-night prototyping has some disadvantages, my bad, :)

          Deleted Following up question..
          DK =>Ebyte module
          GND(detect) => GND
          SWDIO => SWDIO
          SWDCLK => SWCLK
          VTG => 3,3V
          3,3V => 3,3V
          GND =>GND

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            Nca78
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            #1420

            Has anyone succeeded in programming the WT51822-S4AT module (the cheapest and tiny nrf51822 module on AliExpress) using NRF52 DK ?
            I pulled a lot of hair trying to find out what I did wrong with my board, I soldered an adapter to make sure I didn't have problems with faulty jumper wires etc, I reinstalled JLink and Nordic software, in the end I desoldered everything on my board, then the module itself to program it independantly. It always failed and JLink couldn't connect to it. I tried the other spare one I had, same result. I tried the one I'm sure I managed to program long ago with a jlink clone, always the same result.
            Then I tried with an old nrf51822 module I bought long ago on AliExpress, and no problem !

            Has anyone had similar problems ? Is there something special hardware wise that I should check ?

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            • Nca78N Nca78

              Has anyone succeeded in programming the WT51822-S4AT module (the cheapest and tiny nrf51822 module on AliExpress) using NRF52 DK ?
              I pulled a lot of hair trying to find out what I did wrong with my board, I soldered an adapter to make sure I didn't have problems with faulty jumper wires etc, I reinstalled JLink and Nordic software, in the end I desoldered everything on my board, then the module itself to program it independantly. It always failed and JLink couldn't connect to it. I tried the other spare one I had, same result. I tried the one I'm sure I managed to program long ago with a jlink clone, always the same result.
              Then I tried with an old nrf51822 module I bought long ago on AliExpress, and no problem !

              Has anyone had similar problems ? Is there something special hardware wise that I should check ?

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              NeverDie
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              wrote on last edited by NeverDie
              #1421

              @nca78 said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

              Has anyone succeeded in programming the WT51822-S4AT module (the cheapest and tiny nrf51822 module on AliExpress) using NRF52 DK ?

              Yes. Haven't had a problem.

              A couple things:

              1. Are you powering the nRF51 module externally (separate from the nRF52DK)? It's highly advisable that you do, even though by random luck, you can sometimes succeed without it.
              2. Especially for new, unprogrammed modules, you need to do a bulk erase at the beginning. I do this by the d00616 trick of saying "Burn bootloader" with a null bootloader. The burning bootloader process fails, as expected, but the side-effect is that it does a bulk-erase before failing.

              I know you know these things, but sometimes we forget to do what we know.

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                #1422

                @Nca78
                Do you have the J-Link with only 4 pins? And if so, is the module a QFAAH0? In this konstalation I have the same problem, but with the J-Link V8 and ST-Link V2, the module can be programmed without any problem.

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                  NeverDie
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                  wrote on last edited by NeverDie
                  #1423

                  @Nca78
                  Also, what board type in the arduino IDE are you using to program it? That could be throwing you off as well.

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                  • NeverDieN NeverDie

                    @nca78 said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                    Has anyone succeeded in programming the WT51822-S4AT module (the cheapest and tiny nrf51822 module on AliExpress) using NRF52 DK ?

                    Yes. Haven't had a problem.

                    A couple things:

                    1. Are you powering the nRF51 module externally (separate from the nRF52DK)? It's highly advisable that you do, even though by random luck, you can sometimes succeed without it.
                    2. Especially for new, unprogrammed modules, you need to do a bulk erase at the beginning. I do this by the d00616 trick of saying "Burn bootloader" with a null bootloader. The burning bootloader process fails, as expected, but the side-effect is that it does a bulk-erase before failing.

                    I know you know these things, but sometimes we forget to do what we know.

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                    scalz
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                    wrote on last edited by scalz
                    #1424

                    @neverdie said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                    1. Especially for new, unprogrammed modules, you need to do a bulk erase at the beginning. I do this by the d00616 trick of saying "Burn bootloader" with a null bootloader. The burning bootloader process fails, as expected, but the side-effect is that it does a bulk-erase before failing.

                    if bulk erase is needed, then it means it was programmed ;) a fresh new mcu is usually not programmed unless you ask for it to the manufacturer..

                    Like said above, it could be a problem with module, power issue, usb & cable, dupont cable, jlink, jlink setup, arduino core etc.

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                    • NeverDieN NeverDie

                      @nca78 said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                      Has anyone succeeded in programming the WT51822-S4AT module (the cheapest and tiny nrf51822 module on AliExpress) using NRF52 DK ?

                      Yes. Haven't had a problem.

                      A couple things:

                      1. Are you powering the nRF51 module externally (separate from the nRF52DK)? It's highly advisable that you do, even though by random luck, you can sometimes succeed without it.
                      2. Especially for new, unprogrammed modules, you need to do a bulk erase at the beginning. I do this by the d00616 trick of saying "Burn bootloader" with a null bootloader. The burning bootloader process fails, as expected, but the side-effect is that it does a bulk-erase before failing.

                      I know you know these things, but sometimes we forget to do what we know.

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                      Nca78
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                      wrote on last edited by
                      #1425

                      @neverdie said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                      1. Are you powering the nRF51 module externally (separate from the nRF52DK)? It's highly advisable that you do, even though by random luck, you can sometimes succeed without it.

                      I was at the beginning, but after that I tried with power from the DK. I will try again with external power.

                      1. Especially for new, unprogrammed modules, you need to do a bulk erase at the beginning. I do this by the d00616 trick of saying "Burn bootloader" with a null bootloader. The burning bootloader process fails, as expected, but the side-effect is that it does a bulk-erase before failing.

                      I can't even reach that step, JLink can't establish the SWD connection so there's no way to erase the chip.

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                      • Nca78N Nca78

                        @neverdie said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                        1. Are you powering the nRF51 module externally (separate from the nRF52DK)? It's highly advisable that you do, even though by random luck, you can sometimes succeed without it.

                        I was at the beginning, but after that I tried with power from the DK. I will try again with external power.

                        1. Especially for new, unprogrammed modules, you need to do a bulk erase at the beginning. I do this by the d00616 trick of saying "Burn bootloader" with a null bootloader. The burning bootloader process fails, as expected, but the side-effect is that it does a bulk-erase before failing.

                        I can't even reach that step, JLink can't establish the SWD connection so there's no way to erase the chip.

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                        NeverDie
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                        wrote on last edited by
                        #1426

                        @nca78 said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                        I was at the beginning, but after that I tried with power from the DK. I will try again with external power.

                        I use a battery pack with a 3.3v regulator as the external power source. Don't just use 2xAA. If the voltage is too low, it will fail to program.

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                        • scalzS scalz

                          @neverdie said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                          1. Especially for new, unprogrammed modules, you need to do a bulk erase at the beginning. I do this by the d00616 trick of saying "Burn bootloader" with a null bootloader. The burning bootloader process fails, as expected, but the side-effect is that it does a bulk-erase before failing.

                          if bulk erase is needed, then it means it was programmed ;) a fresh new mcu is usually not programmed unless you ask for it to the manufacturer..

                          Like said above, it could be a problem with module, power issue, usb & cable, dupont cable, jlink, jlink setup, arduino core etc.

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                          NeverDie
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                          wrote on last edited by NeverDie
                          #1427

                          @scalz said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                          if bulk erase is needed, then it means it was programmed a fresh new mcu is usually not programmed unless you ask for it to the manufacturer..

                          Well, you would think so, and yet it seems I always need to do it anyway on a new module. Go figure.

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                          • scalzS scalz

                            @neverdie said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                            1. Especially for new, unprogrammed modules, you need to do a bulk erase at the beginning. I do this by the d00616 trick of saying "Burn bootloader" with a null bootloader. The burning bootloader process fails, as expected, but the side-effect is that it does a bulk-erase before failing.

                            if bulk erase is needed, then it means it was programmed ;) a fresh new mcu is usually not programmed unless you ask for it to the manufacturer..

                            Like said above, it could be a problem with module, power issue, usb & cable, dupont cable, jlink, jlink setup, arduino core etc.

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                            Nca78
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                            wrote on last edited by
                            #1428

                            @sarg666 said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                            Do you have the J-Link with only 4 pins? And if so, is the module a QFAAH0? In this konstalation I have the same problem, but with the J-Link V8 and ST-Link V2, the module can be programmed without any problem.

                            I use the JLink included on the NRF52DK.

                            @scalz said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                            if bulk erase is needed, then it means it was programmed ;) a fresh new mcu is usually not programmed unless you ask for it to the manufacturer..

                            No because the <3$ modules are made to be controlled with an external MCU using serial commands, the same way than ESP8266 for Wifi, so they have a firmware installed.

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                              Nca78
                              Hardware Contributor
                              wrote on last edited by Nca78
                              #1429

                              For those interested, only 2.55$ for the CDEByte NRF52832 modules :o

                              https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/nRF52832-2-4GHz-Wireless-rf-Module-CDSENET-E73-2G4M04S-SPI-SMD-rf-Receiver-transmitter-Bluetooth-Module/2798183_32819293925.html

                              [edit] Limited to 2 / customer, but you can buy 2 more in the other CDEByte store here :)
                              https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/CDEBYTE-E73-2G4M04S-BLE-4-2-5-0-long-distance-100m-2-4GHz-SMD-ARM-Core/2077046_32820692238.html

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                                scalz
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                                #1430

                                @NeverDie @Nca78
                                then buy a fresh mcu on Mouser and you'll see by yourself ;)
                                You don't get what I meant, I'm not talking about a specific module design, but in general. the mcu can be accessed by jlink no matter, else how would you program it in first place ..

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                                • scalzS scalz

                                  @NeverDie @Nca78
                                  then buy a fresh mcu on Mouser and you'll see by yourself ;)
                                  You don't get what I meant, I'm not talking about a specific module design, but in general. the mcu can be accessed by jlink no matter, else how would you program it in first place ..

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                                  @scalz said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                                  @NeverDie @Nca78
                                  then buy a fresh mcu on Mouser and you'll see by yourself etc ;)
                                  You don't get what I meant, I'm not talking about a specific module design, but in general. the mcu can be accessed by jlink no matter, else how would you program it in first place ..

                                  Yes, but when there's a firmware it can be locked, so you must unlock it and erase it to remove softdevice and be able to write something.

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                                  • Nca78N Nca78

                                    @neverdie said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                                    1. Are you powering the nRF51 module externally (separate from the nRF52DK)? It's highly advisable that you do, even though by random luck, you can sometimes succeed without it.

                                    I was at the beginning, but after that I tried with power from the DK. I will try again with external power.

                                    1. Especially for new, unprogrammed modules, you need to do a bulk erase at the beginning. I do this by the d00616 trick of saying "Burn bootloader" with a null bootloader. The burning bootloader process fails, as expected, but the side-effect is that it does a bulk-erase before failing.

                                    I can't even reach that step, JLink can't establish the SWD connection so there's no way to erase the chip.

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                                    NeverDie
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                                    wrote on last edited by NeverDie
                                    #1432

                                    @nca78 said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                                    I tried with power from the DK.

                                    I don't know why, but I seem to recollect that doing it that way may confuse it. Otherwise, I don't know how I would have ended up using a battery pack instead.

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                                    • Nca78N Nca78

                                      @scalz said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                                      @NeverDie @Nca78
                                      then buy a fresh mcu on Mouser and you'll see by yourself etc ;)
                                      You don't get what I meant, I'm not talking about a specific module design, but in general. the mcu can be accessed by jlink no matter, else how would you program it in first place ..

                                      Yes, but when there's a firmware it can be locked, so you must unlock it and erase it to remove softdevice and be able to write something.

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                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #1433

                                      @nca78 said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                                      @scalz said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                                      @NeverDie @Nca78
                                      then buy a fresh mcu on Mouser and you'll see by yourself etc ;)
                                      You don't get what I meant, I'm not talking about a specific module design, but in general. the mcu can be accessed by jlink no matter, else how would you program it in first place ..

                                      Yes, but when there's a firmware it can be locked, so you must unlock it and erase it to remove softdevice and be able to write something.

                                      are you sure it's locked? I thought neverdie suggested to erase it with jlink.
                                      well, you should choose a better module than funky design modules.. just my opinion, for saving?? 2bucks!

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                                      • scalzS scalz

                                        @nca78 said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                                        @scalz said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                                        @NeverDie @Nca78
                                        then buy a fresh mcu on Mouser and you'll see by yourself etc ;)
                                        You don't get what I meant, I'm not talking about a specific module design, but in general. the mcu can be accessed by jlink no matter, else how would you program it in first place ..

                                        Yes, but when there's a firmware it can be locked, so you must unlock it and erase it to remove softdevice and be able to write something.

                                        are you sure it's locked? I thought neverdie suggested to erase it with jlink.
                                        well, you should choose a better module than funky design modules.. just my opinion, for saving?? 2bucks!

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                                        NeverDie
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                                        wrote on last edited by NeverDie
                                        #1434

                                        @scalz Well, what do you think he should use instead? Bare chips? That's not as easy to solder.

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                                          NeverDie
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                                          wrote on last edited by NeverDie
                                          #1435

                                          By the way, any update as to when Nordic will be shipping final silicon on the nRF52840? Seems overdue. I just checked Digikey, and still all they have are the ancient PDK's.

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