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  • NeverDieN Offline
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    NeverDie
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    #293

    BTW, here's a picture of how the silkscreen looks and which shows DEC1 in the "DEC5" location:
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    • NeverDieN NeverDie

      @Mike_Lemo said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

      @NeverDie I can't see the Generic nrf52 board setting

      That's all I know, so hopefully someone who knows more can chime in and offer you guidance.

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      @NeverDie said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

      @Mike_Lemo said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

      @NeverDie I can't see the Generic nrf52 board setting

      That's all I know, so hopefully someone who knows more can chime in and offer you guidance.

      Oh, I see now that @d00616 already has. Sorry, my browser didn't refresh, so I missed seeing his post.

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        Yeah he did I just preformed a local search for that arduino15 on my PC

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          Also If I want to change the UART pins to other pins would it work without errors or If I want to use 2 or more UARTS? same with I2C

          Also what are the debugging options available sins the RS232 is not connected to the MCU like in an arduino how would I set stop points or peek at variables values to see if the code runs as expected?

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          • M Mike_Lemo

            you should follow this schematic design if you want to get this module working.

            0_1500734955886_Schematic-MDBT42Q Demo Board.png

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            @Mike_Lemo said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

            you should follow this schematic design if you want to get this module working.

            0_1500734955886_Schematic-MDBT42Q Demo Board.png

            There's a bunch of similar looking schematics in the nRF52832 datasheet for the nRF52832 chip itself, but I'm not sure which of them, if any, is applicable to the Ebyte module. I guess maybe Ebyte needs a demo board schematic like Raytac has. Either that, or we need a schematic of what's on the Ebyte module itself. As it stands, I think maybe there's no enough info with which to move ahead on wiring up the Ebyte module. Am I wrong? Come to think of it, I think some of the other Chinese modules I ordered from Aliexpress may also be similar "mystery" modules. :(

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            • M Mike_Lemo

              Also If I want to change the UART pins to other pins would it work without errors or If I want to use 2 or more UARTS? same with I2C

              Also what are the debugging options available sins the RS232 is not connected to the MCU like in an arduino how would I set stop points or peek at variables values to see if the code runs as expected?

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              @Mike_Lemo said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

              Also If I want to change the UART pins to other pins would it work without errors or If I want to use 2 or more UARTS? same with I2C

              The Chip has a lot of periphery on it. You can connect most components to pins. There is only one hardware UART, which can be connected. Please look at the Infocenter The arduino-nrf5 port is limited to things are implemented with arduino-samd by the author. This is the reason I have implemented an extension for hwPinMode() in MySensors.

              Another fine thing is the implementation of Shortcuts and the PPI. You can do a lot without using the CPU.

              @Mike_Lemo said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

              Also what are the debugging options available sins the RS232 is not connected to the MCU like in an arduino how would I set stop points or peek at variables values to see if the code runs as expected?

              Debugging depends on your programmer and flashing tool. I think you can start by search for "openocd gdb". OpenOCD is the flashing tool in arduino-nrf5 for all supported programmers.

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                #299

                It looks as though raytec does make two modules for the nRF52832 that has a PCB antenna rather than a chip antenna: the MDBT42Q-P and the MDBT-42V-P:
                http://statics3.seeedstudio.com/assets/file/bazaar/product/MDBT42Q-Version_B.pdf
                alt text
                The MDBT-42V-P looks nice because of its small size. Anyone know where it can be purchased? All of a sudden, buying a module that comes with a proper datasheet seems appealing.

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                • NeverDieN NeverDie

                  It looks as though raytec does make two modules for the nRF52832 that has a PCB antenna rather than a chip antenna: the MDBT42Q-P and the MDBT-42V-P:
                  http://statics3.seeedstudio.com/assets/file/bazaar/product/MDBT42Q-Version_B.pdf
                  alt text
                  The MDBT-42V-P looks nice because of its small size. Anyone know where it can be purchased? All of a sudden, buying a module that comes with a proper datasheet seems appealing.

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                  @NeverDie I had mine from seeed studio

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                  • M Mike_Lemo

                    @NeverDie I had mine from seeed studio

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                    @Mike_Lemo said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                    @NeverDie I had mine from seeed studio

                    This one? https://www.seeedstudio.com/MDBT42Q-nRF52832-based-BLE-module-p-2736.html

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                      I was just now noticing that Nordic has a very convenient list of third party modules (and their dimensions) that use the Nordic nRF52832 chips: https://www.nordicsemi.com/eng/Products/3rd-Party-Bluetooth-low-energy-Modules

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                        #303

                        FWIW, I just now sent an email to support@cdebyte.com requesting either a schematic of their E73-2G4M04S module itself or a schematic for a demo circuit, so that I may be certain about adding the appropriate hardware needed to get their module to work. I'll post if I hear anything back from them.

                        By the way, in the case of Raytac, they even have their own demo board: https://raytac.blog/2017/01/24/how-to-use-raytac-mdbt42q-nordic-nrf52832-demo-board/

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                          I saw this in the MDBT42Q module datasheet, and perhaps it explains the relatively poor performance of the nRF52832 Adafruit Feather which uses the MDBT42Q.:
                          0_1500781343573_MBDT42Q_RAYTAC_MODULE.png
                          I believe the Adafruit may have a much smaller ground plane than what is being recommended here by Raytac.

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                            FWIW, I just now sent an email to support@cdebyte.com requesting either a schematic of their E73-2G4M04S module itself or a schematic for a demo circuit, so that I may be certain about adding the appropriate hardware needed to get their module to work. I'll post if I hear anything back from them.

                            By the way, in the case of Raytac, they even have their own demo board: https://raytac.blog/2017/01/24/how-to-use-raytac-mdbt42q-nordic-nrf52832-demo-board/

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                            @NeverDie

                            I requested the schematic for the cdebyte module too...but they replied: it's confidential - LOL.

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                              @NeverDie

                              I requested the schematic for the cdebyte module too...but they replied: it's confidential - LOL.

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                              wrote on last edited by NeverDie
                              #306

                              @mtiutiu
                              How long did it take them to reply to you?

                              I guess we may have to reverse engineer what they did then--at least roughly--in order to use it. I'll see if I can pry the cover off and photograph what's inside. If I'm successful, then I'll post the photos so we can all look at it together.

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                              • NeverDieN NeverDie

                                @mtiutiu
                                How long did it take them to reply to you?

                                I guess we may have to reverse engineer what they did then--at least roughly--in order to use it. I'll see if I can pry the cover off and photograph what's inside. If I'm successful, then I'll post the photos so we can all look at it together.

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                                @NeverDie

                                About 6 hours. I asked them too if the Nordic datasheet recommendations were followed or not and if they can provide an example of how to use the module.

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                                • mtiutiuM mtiutiu

                                  @NeverDie

                                  About 6 hours. I asked them too if the Nordic datasheet recommendations were followed or not and if they can provide an example of how to use the module.

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                                  @mtiutiu said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                                  if they can provide an example of how to use the module

                                  What was their answer to that, or is it still pending? I don't mind them being a black box, provided they show how to use it.

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                                    @NeverDie

                                    I requested the schematic for the cdebyte module too...but they replied: it's confidential - LOL.

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                                    @mtiutiu said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                                    @NeverDie

                                    I requested the schematic for the cdebyte module too...but they replied: it's confidential - LOL.

                                    this one is funny, like if there was something special in their module :laughing:

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                                    • NeverDieN NeverDie

                                      @mtiutiu said in nRF5 Bluetooth action!:

                                      if they can provide an example of how to use the module

                                      What was their answer to that, or is it still pending? I don't mind them being a black box, provided they show how to use it.

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                                      @NeverDie
                                      Didn't replied yet. When I get an answer I'll post it here so no worries.

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                                        Here's a photo with the lid pried off:
                                        0_1500809442008_photo1.jpg
                                        Maybe we can reconstruct what's going on just from looking at the components and the trace lines? At least for now, I'm not so concerned with the RF part.

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                                          Here's a photo taken from the opposite angle:
                                          0_1500810101142_photo2.jpg

                                          Any other photos anyone wants to see?

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