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  • gohanG Offline
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    gohan
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    #26

    The one on ebay it's missing the capacitor so remember to add one on the radio

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    • gohanG gohan

      The one on ebay it's missing the capacitor so remember to add one on the radio

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      @gohan

      Oh! I missed that. I will look for another one with cap.

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      • gohanG gohan

        The one on ebay it's missing the capacitor so remember to add one on the radio

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        @gohan
        According to this site, the ebay-modules have also caps included. There are also some sellers providing according schematics.
        I myselfe use a couple of them (also with +pa+nla-modules) and never ran into bigger trouble.

        Anyone with different experiences?

        Controller: FHEM; MySensors: 2.3.1, RS485,nRF24,RFM69, serial Gateways

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        • rejoe2R rejoe2

          @gohan
          According to this site, the ebay-modules have also caps included. There are also some sellers providing according schematics.
          I myselfe use a couple of them (also with +pa+nla-modules) and never ran into bigger trouble.

          Anyone with different experiences?

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          Tommas
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          #29

          @rejoe2

          Dear rejoe2!

          Thank You for the infos.
          Than i will buy two of this ebay version.

          Best regards,
          T

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            wrote on last edited by gohan
            #30

            I probably missed that because I never seen the caps being specified

            If they work, good find

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            • gohanG gohan

              I probably missed that because I never seen the caps being specified

              If they work, good find

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              Tommas
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              #31

              @gohan

              On ebay, i cant find the bypass capacitor in the specs. I have written to a seller asked about it. I will report to you about the answer.

              I have tried once again the two high power nrf24 pa+lna (I put foil onto these) but these dont work. I think these are broken or very very bad ones.

              Could you suggest to me a seller who sells High power nrf24 which ones you have got good experinces?

              Thanks,
              T

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                @gohan

                On ebay, i cant find the bypass capacitor in the specs. I have written to a seller asked about it. I will report to you about the answer.

                I have tried once again the two high power nrf24 pa+lna (I put foil onto these) but these dont work. I think these are broken or very very bad ones.

                Could you suggest to me a seller who sells High power nrf24 which ones you have got good experinces?

                Thanks,
                T

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                @Tommas
                The caps are small SMD parts, explicitely mentioned you may find them on ebay here. (This is a 10PIN-Version, but as you see, despite the number of PINs, it's similar to the 8-PIN version you find everywhere.

                But to be honest: I never saw the necessity to make measurements on this topic...

                Controller: FHEM; MySensors: 2.3.1, RS485,nRF24,RFM69, serial Gateways

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                • rejoe2R rejoe2

                  @Tommas
                  The caps are small SMD parts, explicitely mentioned you may find them on ebay here. (This is a 10PIN-Version, but as you see, despite the number of PINs, it's similar to the 8-PIN version you find everywhere.

                  But to be honest: I never saw the necessity to make measurements on this topic...

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                  @rejoe2

                  Hi rejoe2!

                  What kind of nrf24 do you use, and where did you buy these?
                  I think that you use capacitor as well, and stable 3.3V dont you?
                  Do you think that this shield is good for my node? It would be very good if i didnt have to use cables for nrf24....
                  https://www.itead.cc/wiki/Arduino_Nano_IO_shield

                  Best regards
                  T

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                    Get some easy pcb instead or other similar solution 😀

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                    • T Tommas

                      @rejoe2

                      Hi rejoe2!

                      What kind of nrf24 do you use, and where did you buy these?
                      I think that you use capacitor as well, and stable 3.3V dont you?
                      Do you think that this shield is good for my node? It would be very good if i didnt have to use cables for nrf24....
                      https://www.itead.cc/wiki/Arduino_Nano_IO_shield

                      Best regards
                      T

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                      @Tommas
                      I use nRF-Modules in the "normal" format and several pa+nla-Variants,. The first ones I probably bought from the ebay source mentionned on the mysensors-site (build-page), but by now, I may have used parts from around 4-5 different ebay-sellers as source. They look different, but until now, I only got "non-blob"-modules which all seemed to work reliably in the end. One time, I really was convinced to have bought fake and bad ones, but in the end it turned out these problems where mainly sw-related.

                      For powering, I initially used AMS1117-only-Modules and additional caps, but using the above adaptor-modules made things much easier, as they have all relevant parts on-board (3.3V+caps, space is no problem in my personal use-cases).

                      Fyi: As I now prefer wires over rf, I'm about to replace most of my nodes by RS485-variants.

                      Controller: FHEM; MySensors: 2.3.1, RS485,nRF24,RFM69, serial Gateways

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                      • rejoe2R rejoe2

                        @Tommas
                        I use nRF-Modules in the "normal" format and several pa+nla-Variants,. The first ones I probably bought from the ebay source mentionned on the mysensors-site (build-page), but by now, I may have used parts from around 4-5 different ebay-sellers as source. They look different, but until now, I only got "non-blob"-modules which all seemed to work reliably in the end. One time, I really was convinced to have bought fake and bad ones, but in the end it turned out these problems where mainly sw-related.

                        For powering, I initially used AMS1117-only-Modules and additional caps, but using the above adaptor-modules made things much easier, as they have all relevant parts on-board (3.3V+caps, space is no problem in my personal use-cases).

                        Fyi: As I now prefer wires over rf, I'm about to replace most of my nodes by RS485-variants.

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                        #36

                        @rejoe2

                        Thanks for the suggestions.
                        Had you got problems with nrf24?
                        Tomorrow i will try to configure openhab. I have tried to find a quick up to date guide for openhab 2 + mqtt mysensors but font find one.
                        Mysensors said that their bindigs support only ethernet or serial gateway officially.
                        I dont understand what is the diff (or why mqtt used mostly) the ethernet and mqtt solution but i have started the mqtt already.

                        Best regards
                        T

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                          @rejoe2

                          Thanks for the suggestions.
                          Had you got problems with nrf24?
                          Tomorrow i will try to configure openhab. I have tried to find a quick up to date guide for openhab 2 + mqtt mysensors but font find one.
                          Mysensors said that their bindigs support only ethernet or serial gateway officially.
                          I dont understand what is the diff (or why mqtt used mostly) the ethernet and mqtt solution but i have started the mqtt already.

                          Best regards
                          T

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                          @Tommas
                          I indeed had some troubles with nRF nodes, but related to this.
                          FHEM is used as a controller and two serial GW's, so: no experience with the MQTT stuff.

                          Controller: FHEM; MySensors: 2.3.1, RS485,nRF24,RFM69, serial Gateways

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                            @Tommas
                            I indeed had some troubles with nRF nodes, but related to this.
                            FHEM is used as a controller and two serial GW's, so: no experience with the MQTT stuff.

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                            @rejoe2

                            I see. I hope, i can use it for a while:).
                            I think im closed this topic. The solution was to change the nrf24 modules, because i could not pair them.
                            The anoother problem was that i use two power source, and i didnt common the GND.

                            Thank you everyone who helped to me!

                            (I run into another problem, if you had some free time:) openhab-mysensors-ethernet-gateway-value-missing

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                              #39

                              Reading through your posts: am I right in assuming that these NRF24L01 are rubbish and I should buy some proper ones with a chip instead of a blob?

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                              Or has anybody a pair of them up and running?

                              Thanks and best regards,
                              Joachim

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                                Reading through your posts: am I right in assuming that these NRF24L01 are rubbish and I should buy some proper ones with a chip instead of a blob?

                                alt text

                                Or has anybody a pair of them up and running?

                                Thanks and best regards,
                                Joachim

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                                @trasrik

                                I havent had got blob one yet so i havent got experience with it. But i red about the blob version and it should work....
                                But I suggest to you that you should buy these from reliable brand/shop. I think Itead or keyestudio are reliable brands. And i bought a pair nrf24 from ebyte, but it hasnt arrived yet.

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                                  Yes, those are rubbish. I lost countless hours trying to get them working but without success

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                                    Ok, spent half the day trying to figure out what I was doing wrong and all I had to do was read the forum. The radios I purchase were junk. Not one of the 10 worked. Had everything placed on a board figured my workmanship was a little off or something. The radio was last to be checked.
                                    WOOOOOOWWWWO

                                    Thanks Everyone this post saved me a lot more time.

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