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  • gohanG gohan

    The one on ebay it's missing the capacitor so remember to add one on the radio

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    rejoe2
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    #28

    @gohan
    According to this site, the ebay-modules have also caps included. There are also some sellers providing according schematics.
    I myselfe use a couple of them (also with +pa+nla-modules) and never ran into bigger trouble.

    Anyone with different experiences?

    Controller: FHEM; MySensors: 2.3.1, RS485,nRF24,RFM69, serial Gateways

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    • rejoe2R rejoe2

      @gohan
      According to this site, the ebay-modules have also caps included. There are also some sellers providing according schematics.
      I myselfe use a couple of them (also with +pa+nla-modules) and never ran into bigger trouble.

      Anyone with different experiences?

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      Tommas
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      @rejoe2

      Dear rejoe2!

      Thank You for the infos.
      Than i will buy two of this ebay version.

      Best regards,
      T

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        #30

        I probably missed that because I never seen the caps being specified

        If they work, good find

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        • gohanG gohan

          I probably missed that because I never seen the caps being specified

          If they work, good find

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          Tommas
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          #31

          @gohan

          On ebay, i cant find the bypass capacitor in the specs. I have written to a seller asked about it. I will report to you about the answer.

          I have tried once again the two high power nrf24 pa+lna (I put foil onto these) but these dont work. I think these are broken or very very bad ones.

          Could you suggest to me a seller who sells High power nrf24 which ones you have got good experinces?

          Thanks,
          T

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            @gohan

            On ebay, i cant find the bypass capacitor in the specs. I have written to a seller asked about it. I will report to you about the answer.

            I have tried once again the two high power nrf24 pa+lna (I put foil onto these) but these dont work. I think these are broken or very very bad ones.

            Could you suggest to me a seller who sells High power nrf24 which ones you have got good experinces?

            Thanks,
            T

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            @Tommas
            The caps are small SMD parts, explicitely mentioned you may find them on ebay here. (This is a 10PIN-Version, but as you see, despite the number of PINs, it's similar to the 8-PIN version you find everywhere.

            But to be honest: I never saw the necessity to make measurements on this topic...

            Controller: FHEM; MySensors: 2.3.1, RS485,nRF24,RFM69, serial Gateways

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            • rejoe2R rejoe2

              @Tommas
              The caps are small SMD parts, explicitely mentioned you may find them on ebay here. (This is a 10PIN-Version, but as you see, despite the number of PINs, it's similar to the 8-PIN version you find everywhere.

              But to be honest: I never saw the necessity to make measurements on this topic...

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              Tommas
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              @rejoe2

              Hi rejoe2!

              What kind of nrf24 do you use, and where did you buy these?
              I think that you use capacitor as well, and stable 3.3V dont you?
              Do you think that this shield is good for my node? It would be very good if i didnt have to use cables for nrf24....
              https://www.itead.cc/wiki/Arduino_Nano_IO_shield

              Best regards
              T

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                gohan
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                #34

                Get some easy pcb instead or other similar solution 😀

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                • T Tommas

                  @rejoe2

                  Hi rejoe2!

                  What kind of nrf24 do you use, and where did you buy these?
                  I think that you use capacitor as well, and stable 3.3V dont you?
                  Do you think that this shield is good for my node? It would be very good if i didnt have to use cables for nrf24....
                  https://www.itead.cc/wiki/Arduino_Nano_IO_shield

                  Best regards
                  T

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                  @Tommas
                  I use nRF-Modules in the "normal" format and several pa+nla-Variants,. The first ones I probably bought from the ebay source mentionned on the mysensors-site (build-page), but by now, I may have used parts from around 4-5 different ebay-sellers as source. They look different, but until now, I only got "non-blob"-modules which all seemed to work reliably in the end. One time, I really was convinced to have bought fake and bad ones, but in the end it turned out these problems where mainly sw-related.

                  For powering, I initially used AMS1117-only-Modules and additional caps, but using the above adaptor-modules made things much easier, as they have all relevant parts on-board (3.3V+caps, space is no problem in my personal use-cases).

                  Fyi: As I now prefer wires over rf, I'm about to replace most of my nodes by RS485-variants.

                  Controller: FHEM; MySensors: 2.3.1, RS485,nRF24,RFM69, serial Gateways

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                  • rejoe2R rejoe2

                    @Tommas
                    I use nRF-Modules in the "normal" format and several pa+nla-Variants,. The first ones I probably bought from the ebay source mentionned on the mysensors-site (build-page), but by now, I may have used parts from around 4-5 different ebay-sellers as source. They look different, but until now, I only got "non-blob"-modules which all seemed to work reliably in the end. One time, I really was convinced to have bought fake and bad ones, but in the end it turned out these problems where mainly sw-related.

                    For powering, I initially used AMS1117-only-Modules and additional caps, but using the above adaptor-modules made things much easier, as they have all relevant parts on-board (3.3V+caps, space is no problem in my personal use-cases).

                    Fyi: As I now prefer wires over rf, I'm about to replace most of my nodes by RS485-variants.

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                    Tommas
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                    #36

                    @rejoe2

                    Thanks for the suggestions.
                    Had you got problems with nrf24?
                    Tomorrow i will try to configure openhab. I have tried to find a quick up to date guide for openhab 2 + mqtt mysensors but font find one.
                    Mysensors said that their bindigs support only ethernet or serial gateway officially.
                    I dont understand what is the diff (or why mqtt used mostly) the ethernet and mqtt solution but i have started the mqtt already.

                    Best regards
                    T

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                    • T Tommas

                      @rejoe2

                      Thanks for the suggestions.
                      Had you got problems with nrf24?
                      Tomorrow i will try to configure openhab. I have tried to find a quick up to date guide for openhab 2 + mqtt mysensors but font find one.
                      Mysensors said that their bindigs support only ethernet or serial gateway officially.
                      I dont understand what is the diff (or why mqtt used mostly) the ethernet and mqtt solution but i have started the mqtt already.

                      Best regards
                      T

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                      @Tommas
                      I indeed had some troubles with nRF nodes, but related to this.
                      FHEM is used as a controller and two serial GW's, so: no experience with the MQTT stuff.

                      Controller: FHEM; MySensors: 2.3.1, RS485,nRF24,RFM69, serial Gateways

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                      • rejoe2R rejoe2

                        @Tommas
                        I indeed had some troubles with nRF nodes, but related to this.
                        FHEM is used as a controller and two serial GW's, so: no experience with the MQTT stuff.

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                        Tommas
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                        #38

                        @rejoe2

                        I see. I hope, i can use it for a while:).
                        I think im closed this topic. The solution was to change the nrf24 modules, because i could not pair them.
                        The anoother problem was that i use two power source, and i didnt common the GND.

                        Thank you everyone who helped to me!

                        (I run into another problem, if you had some free time:) openhab-mysensors-ethernet-gateway-value-missing

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                          trasrik
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                          #39

                          Reading through your posts: am I right in assuming that these NRF24L01 are rubbish and I should buy some proper ones with a chip instead of a blob?

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                          Or has anybody a pair of them up and running?

                          Thanks and best regards,
                          Joachim

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                          • T trasrik

                            Reading through your posts: am I right in assuming that these NRF24L01 are rubbish and I should buy some proper ones with a chip instead of a blob?

                            alt text

                            Or has anybody a pair of them up and running?

                            Thanks and best regards,
                            Joachim

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                            Tommas
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                            @trasrik

                            I havent had got blob one yet so i havent got experience with it. But i red about the blob version and it should work....
                            But I suggest to you that you should buy these from reliable brand/shop. I think Itead or keyestudio are reliable brands. And i bought a pair nrf24 from ebyte, but it hasnt arrived yet.

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                              gohan
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                              Yes, those are rubbish. I lost countless hours trying to get them working but without success

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                                Newzwaver
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                                Ok, spent half the day trying to figure out what I was doing wrong and all I had to do was read the forum. The radios I purchase were junk. Not one of the 10 worked. Had everything placed on a board figured my workmanship was a little off or something. The radio was last to be checked.
                                WOOOOOOWWWWO

                                Thanks Everyone this post saved me a lot more time.

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