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  • rejoe2R rejoe2

    @gohan
    According to this site, the ebay-modules have also caps included. There are also some sellers providing according schematics.
    I myselfe use a couple of them (also with +pa+nla-modules) and never ran into bigger trouble.

    Anyone with different experiences?

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    Tommas
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    @rejoe2

    Dear rejoe2!

    Thank You for the infos.
    Than i will buy two of this ebay version.

    Best regards,
    T

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      gohan
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      #30

      I probably missed that because I never seen the caps being specified

      If they work, good find

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      • gohanG gohan

        I probably missed that because I never seen the caps being specified

        If they work, good find

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        Tommas
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        @gohan

        On ebay, i cant find the bypass capacitor in the specs. I have written to a seller asked about it. I will report to you about the answer.

        I have tried once again the two high power nrf24 pa+lna (I put foil onto these) but these dont work. I think these are broken or very very bad ones.

        Could you suggest to me a seller who sells High power nrf24 which ones you have got good experinces?

        Thanks,
        T

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        • T Tommas

          @gohan

          On ebay, i cant find the bypass capacitor in the specs. I have written to a seller asked about it. I will report to you about the answer.

          I have tried once again the two high power nrf24 pa+lna (I put foil onto these) but these dont work. I think these are broken or very very bad ones.

          Could you suggest to me a seller who sells High power nrf24 which ones you have got good experinces?

          Thanks,
          T

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          #32

          @Tommas
          The caps are small SMD parts, explicitely mentioned you may find them on ebay here. (This is a 10PIN-Version, but as you see, despite the number of PINs, it's similar to the 8-PIN version you find everywhere.

          But to be honest: I never saw the necessity to make measurements on this topic...

          Controller: FHEM; MySensors: 2.3.1, RS485,nRF24,RFM69, serial Gateways

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          • rejoe2R rejoe2

            @Tommas
            The caps are small SMD parts, explicitely mentioned you may find them on ebay here. (This is a 10PIN-Version, but as you see, despite the number of PINs, it's similar to the 8-PIN version you find everywhere.

            But to be honest: I never saw the necessity to make measurements on this topic...

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            Tommas
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            @rejoe2

            Hi rejoe2!

            What kind of nrf24 do you use, and where did you buy these?
            I think that you use capacitor as well, and stable 3.3V dont you?
            Do you think that this shield is good for my node? It would be very good if i didnt have to use cables for nrf24....
            https://www.itead.cc/wiki/Arduino_Nano_IO_shield

            Best regards
            T

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              gohan
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              Get some easy pcb instead or other similar solution 😀

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              • T Tommas

                @rejoe2

                Hi rejoe2!

                What kind of nrf24 do you use, and where did you buy these?
                I think that you use capacitor as well, and stable 3.3V dont you?
                Do you think that this shield is good for my node? It would be very good if i didnt have to use cables for nrf24....
                https://www.itead.cc/wiki/Arduino_Nano_IO_shield

                Best regards
                T

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                rejoe2
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                @Tommas
                I use nRF-Modules in the "normal" format and several pa+nla-Variants,. The first ones I probably bought from the ebay source mentionned on the mysensors-site (build-page), but by now, I may have used parts from around 4-5 different ebay-sellers as source. They look different, but until now, I only got "non-blob"-modules which all seemed to work reliably in the end. One time, I really was convinced to have bought fake and bad ones, but in the end it turned out these problems where mainly sw-related.

                For powering, I initially used AMS1117-only-Modules and additional caps, but using the above adaptor-modules made things much easier, as they have all relevant parts on-board (3.3V+caps, space is no problem in my personal use-cases).

                Fyi: As I now prefer wires over rf, I'm about to replace most of my nodes by RS485-variants.

                Controller: FHEM; MySensors: 2.3.1, RS485,nRF24,RFM69, serial Gateways

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                • rejoe2R rejoe2

                  @Tommas
                  I use nRF-Modules in the "normal" format and several pa+nla-Variants,. The first ones I probably bought from the ebay source mentionned on the mysensors-site (build-page), but by now, I may have used parts from around 4-5 different ebay-sellers as source. They look different, but until now, I only got "non-blob"-modules which all seemed to work reliably in the end. One time, I really was convinced to have bought fake and bad ones, but in the end it turned out these problems where mainly sw-related.

                  For powering, I initially used AMS1117-only-Modules and additional caps, but using the above adaptor-modules made things much easier, as they have all relevant parts on-board (3.3V+caps, space is no problem in my personal use-cases).

                  Fyi: As I now prefer wires over rf, I'm about to replace most of my nodes by RS485-variants.

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                  Tommas
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                  #36

                  @rejoe2

                  Thanks for the suggestions.
                  Had you got problems with nrf24?
                  Tomorrow i will try to configure openhab. I have tried to find a quick up to date guide for openhab 2 + mqtt mysensors but font find one.
                  Mysensors said that their bindigs support only ethernet or serial gateway officially.
                  I dont understand what is the diff (or why mqtt used mostly) the ethernet and mqtt solution but i have started the mqtt already.

                  Best regards
                  T

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                  • T Tommas

                    @rejoe2

                    Thanks for the suggestions.
                    Had you got problems with nrf24?
                    Tomorrow i will try to configure openhab. I have tried to find a quick up to date guide for openhab 2 + mqtt mysensors but font find one.
                    Mysensors said that their bindigs support only ethernet or serial gateway officially.
                    I dont understand what is the diff (or why mqtt used mostly) the ethernet and mqtt solution but i have started the mqtt already.

                    Best regards
                    T

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                    @Tommas
                    I indeed had some troubles with nRF nodes, but related to this.
                    FHEM is used as a controller and two serial GW's, so: no experience with the MQTT stuff.

                    Controller: FHEM; MySensors: 2.3.1, RS485,nRF24,RFM69, serial Gateways

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                    • rejoe2R rejoe2

                      @Tommas
                      I indeed had some troubles with nRF nodes, but related to this.
                      FHEM is used as a controller and two serial GW's, so: no experience with the MQTT stuff.

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                      Tommas
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                      #38

                      @rejoe2

                      I see. I hope, i can use it for a while:).
                      I think im closed this topic. The solution was to change the nrf24 modules, because i could not pair them.
                      The anoother problem was that i use two power source, and i didnt common the GND.

                      Thank you everyone who helped to me!

                      (I run into another problem, if you had some free time:) openhab-mysensors-ethernet-gateway-value-missing

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                        trasrik
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                        #39

                        Reading through your posts: am I right in assuming that these NRF24L01 are rubbish and I should buy some proper ones with a chip instead of a blob?

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                        Or has anybody a pair of them up and running?

                        Thanks and best regards,
                        Joachim

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                        • T trasrik

                          Reading through your posts: am I right in assuming that these NRF24L01 are rubbish and I should buy some proper ones with a chip instead of a blob?

                          alt text

                          Or has anybody a pair of them up and running?

                          Thanks and best regards,
                          Joachim

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                          Tommas
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                          @trasrik

                          I havent had got blob one yet so i havent got experience with it. But i red about the blob version and it should work....
                          But I suggest to you that you should buy these from reliable brand/shop. I think Itead or keyestudio are reliable brands. And i bought a pair nrf24 from ebyte, but it hasnt arrived yet.

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                            Yes, those are rubbish. I lost countless hours trying to get them working but without success

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                              Ok, spent half the day trying to figure out what I was doing wrong and all I had to do was read the forum. The radios I purchase were junk. Not one of the 10 worked. Had everything placed on a board figured my workmanship was a little off or something. The radio was last to be checked.
                              WOOOOOOWWWWO

                              Thanks Everyone this post saved me a lot more time.

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