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  • tbowmoT tbowmo

    I'm out of ideas right now.

    Did you try a more recent version of the arduino ide?

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    @tbowmo I will try to install all the drivers & IDE on diferent comp tomorrow. I already did the downgrade from 1.8 because of the note "Arduino IDE 1.5.x & 1.6.x compatible." in SB tech specs.
    Anyway thanks for your help. I will have to invest more hours yet to reinvent the wheel but it is fine to have somebody to consult with.

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      @tbowmo I will try to install all the drivers & IDE on diferent comp tomorrow. I already did the downgrade from 1.8 because of the note "Arduino IDE 1.5.x & 1.6.x compatible." in SB tech specs.
      Anyway thanks for your help. I will have to invest more hours yet to reinvent the wheel but it is fine to have somebody to consult with.

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      @xmonika

      Hmm.. it should be compatible with anything above arduino 1.6.. But it's a while since I compiled anything for that target (all my sensebenders have been in "production" since june 2015)

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        So I have tried it on the different computer and the results are the same.

        This is what I did:

        • download ide 1.8 here https://www.arduino.cc/en/main/software & install
        • download CP CP2102 win 10 drivers here https://www.silabs.com/products/development-tools/software/usb-to-uart-bridge-vcp-drivers
        • install mysensors libraries in IDE via manage library internal tool
        • add https://raw.githubusercontent.com/mysensors/ArduinoBoards/master/package_mysensors.org_index.json to IDE
        • select Sensebender micro board, COM6 (the only available), Programmer AVRISP.mkII
        • add necessary libraries to compile the sensebender micro sketch as described here https://www.mysensors.org/about/arduino#optional---install-external-mysensors-examples - via creating zip files and add zip library file to sketch. Necessary libraries were SI7021 + sha204 + RunningAverage
        • compile and upload the basic sketch from here https://www.openhardware.io/view/1/Sensebender-Micro

        Result is: stk500_getsync() attempt 7 of 10: not in sync: resp=0xdb

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          @xmonika

          Wait a moment, you choose AVRISP.mkII ? That shouldn't be necessary, as it is only needed if you ever want to upload a new bootloader (and then you need a different programming adapter as well)

          You are using the build in arduino programming tool to download? (Second icon from left, in the top menu)

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          • tbowmoT tbowmo

            @xmonika

            Wait a moment, you choose AVRISP.mkII ? That shouldn't be necessary, as it is only needed if you ever want to upload a new bootloader (and then you need a different programming adapter as well)

            You are using the build in arduino programming tool to download? (Second icon from left, in the top menu)

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            @tbowmo Yes, second icon from the left (or Ctrl+U).
            By pressing Project Upload via programmer (in menu Project or Ctrl+Shift+U) the result is little bit different - no stk500_getsync() attempt 7 of 10: not in sync: resp=0xdb error just uncommented Upload error.

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              @xmonika

              When you have chosen SenseBender Micro as target, which sub variant did you choose? (8Mhz, or 1Mhz?) Can't remember if there are any differences in baudrate.. And I'm not at my arduino dev. machine right now. You should choose the 8Mhz as target.

              Also could you check soldering of the board? (specially around the reset line, capacitor, resistors, atmega328)

              That is the last things that I could think about right now..

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                I have selected 8 MHz. This is what it looks like by me
                0_1503748835505_upload-ea2c7217-d6c6-430d-b59c-64c33302dbbc

                This is what I did today - got another sensebender micro (SBM) board, soldered jumpers, connected again. Then I measured the conductivity between DTR pin on CP2102 chip and capacitor on DTR wire on SBM. It shall be conected via my wires and it was correctly connected.

                Then I run the compillation again and the result is the same - not in sync. So I feel I have replaced everything but still getting the same error.

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                  @xmonika do you have an arduino board ? You could try to use it to test your serial adapter.

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                    So I tried Arduino nano (may be clone). The result is simillar - not in sync. But then I tried the nano via standard mini USB cable and also not in sync. Possibly WIN 10 related? I tried it with admin privileges.

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                      @xmonika or it's related to your usb 2 serial interface?

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                        Could be but the same I get on my second computer (win 10 as well). Will experiment with that.

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                          But still using the same USB device on the second computer?

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                            Hello!

                            I was hoping I would find a solution here as I basically have the same problem. I ordered two Sensebender Micros like two months ago and flashing a sketch onto them is failing with the same avrdude: stk500_getsync() attempt X of Y: not in sync error. (Noteworthy: I only assembled one Sensebender so far, I haven't tried the second one).

                            In my case: I am using ArchLinux with kernel 4.13, so drivers should not be the issue here. I am using this FTDI flash module and the same USB cable for other projects and was able to successfully flash an ESP 8266, a Arduino Pro Mini and a Nano.

                            Executing the self-test on the Sensebender Micro does also work and with serial attached I even get the output that all tests have passed. Still, i am not able to flash something onto this device using the IDE. Instead of selecting the board option Sensebender Micro (using both 8 and 1 MHz options) I even tried some odd choices like Arduino Pro Mini or Arduino Nano. Nevertheless, none of those did work.

                            Regarding FTDI to Sensebender connection: VCC <-> VCC, GND <-> GND, RX and TX are swapped. I even tried replacing the cables and tried to connect DTR without luck.

                            Any further hints are appreciated, thank you.

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                              Unfortunately I didn't solved it, I just gave it up and am waiting for new ISP programmer to arrive. That is the last piece I didn't changed (I have changed computer/SW, sensebender Micro and it didn't helped). Hope you will be more successfull.

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                                Only thing that is left, that I can think about, is if itead had somehow forgotten to write the bootloader..

                                But then again, I have supplied them with a binary including both bootloader, and default sensebender micro sketch, so it should have the bootloader. Unless they have made some mistakes..

                                I haven't bought any sensebenders for the last couple of years, so unfortunately I can't verify this.

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                                  Thank you for you input. I had luck and we have an AVRISP mk2 lying around in my company that I can borrow for the weekend. So my plan would be to try to re-flash DualOptiboot first or another bootloader (maybe the stock Arduino Pro Mini one) in further tries and see if this helps.

                                  The only two things I am trying to figure out in this very moment are:

                                  1. in which direction the ISP cable has to be mounted so that nothing is damaged
                                  2. and I do not know yet for sure if the AVRISP mk2 is actually suppyling power or not to the board (for cases where e.g. it may feed 5 volts).
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                                    Okay, I have soldered the second Sensebender too and tried to burn the bootloader via Arduino IDE onto both devices. The verbose log was the following:

                                    
                                    /home/x/.arduino15/packages/arduino/tools/avrdude/6.3.0-arduino9/bin/avrdude -C/home/x/.arduino15/packages/arduino/tools/avrdude/6.3.0-arduino9/etc/avrdude.conf -v -patmega328p -cstk500v2 -Pusb -Uflash:w:/home/x/.arduino15/packages/MySensors/hardware/avr/1.0.1/bootloaders/DualOptiboot/optiboot_atmega328_pro_8MHz.hex:i -Ulock:w:0x0F:m 
                                    
                                    avrdude: Version 6.3, compiled on Jan 17 2017 at 11:00:16
                                             Copyright (c) 2000-2005 Brian Dean, http://www.bdmicro.com/
                                             Copyright (c) 2007-2014 Joerg Wunsch
                                    
                                             System wide configuration file is "/home/x/.arduino15/packages/arduino/tools/avrdude/6.3.0-arduino9/etc/avrdude.conf"
                                             User configuration file is "/home/x/.avrduderc"
                                             User configuration file does not exist or is not a regular file, skipping
                                    
                                             Using Port                    : usb
                                             Using Programmer              : stk500v2
                                    avrdude: usbdev_open(): Found AVRISP mkII, serno: redacted
                                             AVR Part                      : ATmega328P
                                             Chip Erase delay              : 9000 us
                                             PAGEL                         : PD7
                                             BS2                           : PC2
                                             RESET disposition             : dedicated
                                             RETRY pulse                   : SCK
                                             serial program mode           : yes
                                             parallel program mode         : yes
                                             Timeout                       : 200
                                             StabDelay                     : 100
                                             CmdexeDelay                   : 25
                                             SyncLoops                     : 32
                                             ByteDelay                     : 0
                                             PollIndex                     : 3
                                             PollValue                     : 0x53
                                             Memory Detail                 :
                                    
                                                                      Block Poll               Page                       Polled
                                               Memory Type Mode Delay Size  Indx Paged  Size   Size #Pages MinW  MaxW   ReadBack
                                               ----------- ---- ----- ----- ---- ------ ------ ---- ------ ----- ----- ---------
                                               eeprom        65    20     4    0 no       1024    4      0  3600  3600 0xff 0xff
                                               flash         65     6   128    0 yes     32768  128    256  4500  4500 0xff 0xff
                                               lfuse          0     0     0    0 no          1    0      0  4500  4500 0x00 0x00
                                               hfuse          0     0     0    0 no          1    0      0  4500  4500 0x00 0x00
                                               efuse          0     0     0    0 no          1    0      0  4500  4500 0x00 0x00
                                               lock           0     0     0    0 no          1    0      0  4500  4500 0x00 0x00
                                               calibration    0     0     0    0 no          1    0      0     0     0 0x00 0x00
                                               signature      0     0     0    0 no          3    0      0     0     0 0x00 0x00
                                    
                                             Programmer Type : STK500V2
                                             Description     : Atmel STK500 Version 2.x firmware
                                             Programmer Model: AVRISP mkII
                                             Hardware Version: 1
                                             Firmware Version Master : 1.23
                                             Vtarget         : 3.0 V
                                             SCK period      : 8.00 us
                                    
                                    avrdude: AVR device initialized and ready to accept instructions
                                    
                                    Reading | ################################################## | 100% 0.00s
                                    
                                    avrdude: Device signature = 0x1e950f (probably m328p)
                                    avrdude: NOTE: "flash" memory has been specified, an erase cycle will be performed
                                             To disable this feature, specify the -D option.
                                    avrdude: erasing chip
                                    avrdude: reading input file "/home/x/.arduino15/packages/MySensors/hardware/avr/1.0.1/bootloaders/DualOptiboot/optiboot_atmega328_pro_8MHz.hex"
                                    avrdude: writing flash (32768 bytes):
                                    
                                    Writing | ################################################## | 100% 0.00s
                                    
                                    avrdude: 32768 bytes of flash written
                                    avrdude: verifying flash memory against /home/x/.arduino15/packages/MySensors/hardware/avr/1.0.1/bootloaders/DualOptiboot/optiboot_atmega328_pro_8MHz.hex:
                                    avrdude: load data flash data from input file /home/x/.arduino15/packages/MySensors/hardware/avr/1.0.1/bootloaders/DualOptiboot/optiboot_atmega328_pro_8MHz.hex:
                                    avrdude: input file /home/x/.arduino15/packages/MySensors/hardware/avr/1.0.1/bootloaders/DualOptiboot/optiboot_atmega328_pro_8MHz.hex contains 32768 bytes
                                    avrdude: reading on-chip flash data:
                                    
                                    Reading | ################################################## | 100% 0.00s
                                    
                                    avrdude: verifying ...
                                    avrdude: 32768 bytes of flash verified
                                    avrdude: reading input file "0x0F"
                                    avrdude: writing lock (1 bytes):
                                    
                                    Writing | ################################################## | 100% 0.01s
                                    
                                    avrdude: 1 bytes of lock written
                                    avrdude: verifying lock memory against 0x0F:
                                    avrdude: load data lock data from input file 0x0F:
                                    avrdude: input file 0x0F contains 1 bytes
                                    avrdude: reading on-chip lock data:
                                    
                                    Reading | ################################################## | 100% 0.00s
                                    
                                    avrdude: verifying ...
                                    avrdude: WARNING: invalid value for unused bits in fuse "lock", should be set to 1 according to datasheet
                                    This behaviour is deprecated and will result in an error in future version
                                    You probably want to use 0xcf instead of 0x0f (double check with your datasheet first).
                                    avrdude: 1 bytes of lock verified
                                    
                                    avrdude done.  Thank you.
                                    

                                    Interesting in this log is the warning about the invalid value for some fuse bits...

                                    Flashing a sketch after re-burning the bootloader sadly did not work, the same not in sync error occured again. Next, I tried to burn the bootloader using the board setting of the Arduino Pro Mini (3.3v, 8mhz). Strange enough, this does not work anymore now, yielding a pretty generic error:

                                    avrdude: stk500v2_command(): command failed
                                    avrdude: stk500v2_program_enable(): bad AVRISPmkII connection status: Unknown status 0x00
                                    avrdude: initialization failed, rc=-1
                                             Double check connections and try again, or use -F to override
                                             this check.
                                    

                                    I do not know, I can only assume that maybe burning another bootloader does not work because of the invalid value warning while burning the default bootloader. I also tried to burn the original Optiboot without success.

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                                      Okay, I have soldered the second Sensebender too and tried to burn the bootloader via Arduino IDE onto both devices. The verbose log was the following:

                                      
                                      /home/x/.arduino15/packages/arduino/tools/avrdude/6.3.0-arduino9/bin/avrdude -C/home/x/.arduino15/packages/arduino/tools/avrdude/6.3.0-arduino9/etc/avrdude.conf -v -patmega328p -cstk500v2 -Pusb -Uflash:w:/home/x/.arduino15/packages/MySensors/hardware/avr/1.0.1/bootloaders/DualOptiboot/optiboot_atmega328_pro_8MHz.hex:i -Ulock:w:0x0F:m 
                                      
                                      avrdude: Version 6.3, compiled on Jan 17 2017 at 11:00:16
                                               Copyright (c) 2000-2005 Brian Dean, http://www.bdmicro.com/
                                               Copyright (c) 2007-2014 Joerg Wunsch
                                      
                                               System wide configuration file is "/home/x/.arduino15/packages/arduino/tools/avrdude/6.3.0-arduino9/etc/avrdude.conf"
                                               User configuration file is "/home/x/.avrduderc"
                                               User configuration file does not exist or is not a regular file, skipping
                                      
                                               Using Port                    : usb
                                               Using Programmer              : stk500v2
                                      avrdude: usbdev_open(): Found AVRISP mkII, serno: redacted
                                               AVR Part                      : ATmega328P
                                               Chip Erase delay              : 9000 us
                                               PAGEL                         : PD7
                                               BS2                           : PC2
                                               RESET disposition             : dedicated
                                               RETRY pulse                   : SCK
                                               serial program mode           : yes
                                               parallel program mode         : yes
                                               Timeout                       : 200
                                               StabDelay                     : 100
                                               CmdexeDelay                   : 25
                                               SyncLoops                     : 32
                                               ByteDelay                     : 0
                                               PollIndex                     : 3
                                               PollValue                     : 0x53
                                               Memory Detail                 :
                                      
                                                                        Block Poll               Page                       Polled
                                                 Memory Type Mode Delay Size  Indx Paged  Size   Size #Pages MinW  MaxW   ReadBack
                                                 ----------- ---- ----- ----- ---- ------ ------ ---- ------ ----- ----- ---------
                                                 eeprom        65    20     4    0 no       1024    4      0  3600  3600 0xff 0xff
                                                 flash         65     6   128    0 yes     32768  128    256  4500  4500 0xff 0xff
                                                 lfuse          0     0     0    0 no          1    0      0  4500  4500 0x00 0x00
                                                 hfuse          0     0     0    0 no          1    0      0  4500  4500 0x00 0x00
                                                 efuse          0     0     0    0 no          1    0      0  4500  4500 0x00 0x00
                                                 lock           0     0     0    0 no          1    0      0  4500  4500 0x00 0x00
                                                 calibration    0     0     0    0 no          1    0      0     0     0 0x00 0x00
                                                 signature      0     0     0    0 no          3    0      0     0     0 0x00 0x00
                                      
                                               Programmer Type : STK500V2
                                               Description     : Atmel STK500 Version 2.x firmware
                                               Programmer Model: AVRISP mkII
                                               Hardware Version: 1
                                               Firmware Version Master : 1.23
                                               Vtarget         : 3.0 V
                                               SCK period      : 8.00 us
                                      
                                      avrdude: AVR device initialized and ready to accept instructions
                                      
                                      Reading | ################################################## | 100% 0.00s
                                      
                                      avrdude: Device signature = 0x1e950f (probably m328p)
                                      avrdude: NOTE: "flash" memory has been specified, an erase cycle will be performed
                                               To disable this feature, specify the -D option.
                                      avrdude: erasing chip
                                      avrdude: reading input file "/home/x/.arduino15/packages/MySensors/hardware/avr/1.0.1/bootloaders/DualOptiboot/optiboot_atmega328_pro_8MHz.hex"
                                      avrdude: writing flash (32768 bytes):
                                      
                                      Writing | ################################################## | 100% 0.00s
                                      
                                      avrdude: 32768 bytes of flash written
                                      avrdude: verifying flash memory against /home/x/.arduino15/packages/MySensors/hardware/avr/1.0.1/bootloaders/DualOptiboot/optiboot_atmega328_pro_8MHz.hex:
                                      avrdude: load data flash data from input file /home/x/.arduino15/packages/MySensors/hardware/avr/1.0.1/bootloaders/DualOptiboot/optiboot_atmega328_pro_8MHz.hex:
                                      avrdude: input file /home/x/.arduino15/packages/MySensors/hardware/avr/1.0.1/bootloaders/DualOptiboot/optiboot_atmega328_pro_8MHz.hex contains 32768 bytes
                                      avrdude: reading on-chip flash data:
                                      
                                      Reading | ################################################## | 100% 0.00s
                                      
                                      avrdude: verifying ...
                                      avrdude: 32768 bytes of flash verified
                                      avrdude: reading input file "0x0F"
                                      avrdude: writing lock (1 bytes):
                                      
                                      Writing | ################################################## | 100% 0.01s
                                      
                                      avrdude: 1 bytes of lock written
                                      avrdude: verifying lock memory against 0x0F:
                                      avrdude: load data lock data from input file 0x0F:
                                      avrdude: input file 0x0F contains 1 bytes
                                      avrdude: reading on-chip lock data:
                                      
                                      Reading | ################################################## | 100% 0.00s
                                      
                                      avrdude: verifying ...
                                      avrdude: WARNING: invalid value for unused bits in fuse "lock", should be set to 1 according to datasheet
                                      This behaviour is deprecated and will result in an error in future version
                                      You probably want to use 0xcf instead of 0x0f (double check with your datasheet first).
                                      avrdude: 1 bytes of lock verified
                                      
                                      avrdude done.  Thank you.
                                      

                                      Interesting in this log is the warning about the invalid value for some fuse bits...

                                      Flashing a sketch after re-burning the bootloader sadly did not work, the same not in sync error occured again. Next, I tried to burn the bootloader using the board setting of the Arduino Pro Mini (3.3v, 8mhz). Strange enough, this does not work anymore now, yielding a pretty generic error:

                                      avrdude: stk500v2_command(): command failed
                                      avrdude: stk500v2_program_enable(): bad AVRISPmkII connection status: Unknown status 0x00
                                      avrdude: initialization failed, rc=-1
                                               Double check connections and try again, or use -F to override
                                               this check.
                                      

                                      I do not know, I can only assume that maybe burning another bootloader does not work because of the invalid value warning while burning the default bootloader. I also tried to burn the original Optiboot without success.

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                                      I just have this problem with "programming" solved. I bought this USBISP programmer, downloaded libUSBk drivers from here and pushed it into SBmicro via programmer USBasp. I don't know why but from some reason two UART programmers were not working.

                                      It may save frustration and time to somebody in future.

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                                        I just have this problem with "programming" solved. I bought this USBISP programmer, downloaded libUSBk drivers from here and pushed it into SBmicro via programmer USBasp. I don't know why but from some reason two UART programmers were not working.

                                        It may save frustration and time to somebody in future.

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                                        @xmonika

                                        Thanks, I just ordered the same programmer. Let's see if this is working. How did you wire the programmer to the Sensebender? Just asking because the programmer has more pins available than the Arduino board.

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                                          @zeroxdeadbeef

                                          the SB micro is using the standard 6pin AVR-ISP header.

                                          Would be interesting to get a memory dump from a fresh SB micro that exhibits the problems with programming.. One of my theories is that it lacks the bootloader, or are misconfigured somehow from the factory.

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