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How to detect wild animal pests in a windy garden?

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  • gohanG Offline
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    #20

    Actually flashing light into eyes of a night mammal could indeed blind it temporarily as the eye takes time to go back to "low light" mode, not to mention being exposed to light may give off his position to any nearby predator. Anyway cats don't seem to be bothered but maybe something else is more susceptible to these kind of disturbances

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      #21

      I think a "sure fire" scare tactic would be to have an RC car race out and make a rukus near wherever animal activity is detected. If it could actually chase after the animal, then even better. It would require a whole different level of sophistication, but it's no longer pure science fiction either.

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        That would be an interesting project but it is gonna be much complex

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        • gohanG gohan

          That would be an interesting project but it is gonna be much complex

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          @gohan, @NeverDie - I just love the way this project evolves :) RC Cars and blinding leds... wonder where its going to end! I hope you get rid of the animals! And if you ever build - pictures!!!

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            It might be time to level up :)
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPgqfnKG_T4

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            • mfalkviddM mfalkvidd

              It might be time to level up :)
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPgqfnKG_T4

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              #25

              @mfalkvidd - this is gold! Love the Sentry water gun idea!

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              • sundberg84S sundberg84

                @gohan, @NeverDie - I just love the way this project evolves :) RC Cars and blinding leds... wonder where its going to end! I hope you get rid of the animals! And if you ever build - pictures!!!

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                @sundberg84 said in How to detect wild animal pests in a windy garden?:

                @gohan, @NeverDie - I just love the way this project evolves RC Cars and blinding leds... wonder where its going to end!

                Oh, we've barely scratched the surface. That's why I'm hoping other people will add some ideas to the brainstorm. The more the merrier!

                I kinda like the idea of having a jack-in-the-box fire off in the vicinity. That's sure to scare the bejeasus out of whatever critter wants to munch the plants. It would have to be able to re-arm itself automatically afterward though, because re-arming it manually would get tiresome in a hurry.

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                  the auto tracking water gun it is an "old" project but it could be an option

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                    @sundberg84 said in How to detect wild animal pests in a windy garden?:

                    @gohan, @NeverDie - I just love the way this project evolves RC Cars and blinding leds... wonder where its going to end!

                    Oh, we've barely scratched the surface. That's why I'm hoping other people will add some ideas to the brainstorm. The more the merrier!

                    I kinda like the idea of having a jack-in-the-box fire off in the vicinity. That's sure to scare the bejeasus out of whatever critter wants to munch the plants. It would have to be able to re-arm itself automatically afterward though, because re-arming it manually would get tiresome in a hurry.

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                    @NeverDie - How about something like a water pistol directly connected to a water hose? Maybe a bit to much water and a couple of false triggers and the plants will get enough water so survive a year... or drown.

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                    • sundberg84S sundberg84

                      @NeverDie - How about something like a water pistol directly connected to a water hose? Maybe a bit to much water and a couple of false triggers and the plants will get enough water so survive a year... or drown.

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                      @sundberg84 said in How to detect wild animal pests in a windy garden?:

                      @NeverDie - How about something like a water pistol directly connected to a water hose? Maybe a bit to much water and a couple of false triggers and the plants will get enough water so survive a year... or drown.

                      That's almost the current situation with the motion activated sprinkler (see photo in OP). To the designer's credit, it's a very aggressive sprinkler, not one of the lazy, slow moving types we're all familiar with.

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                      • Richard JohnsonR Offline
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                        I oder the LIGHT IT by Fulcrum 20034-104 Motion Sensor Porch Light from https://stoppestinfo.com/372-best-raccoon-repellents.html .
                        I used it during one month and it work well, using the light like a repeller from raccoons. So i hear about one more way it is a water repeller, but still don't know how it work (i mean good or not))
                        Any suggestion?

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                        • Richard JohnsonR Richard Johnson

                          I oder the LIGHT IT by Fulcrum 20034-104 Motion Sensor Porch Light from https://stoppestinfo.com/372-best-raccoon-repellents.html .
                          I used it during one month and it work well, using the light like a repeller from raccoons. So i hear about one more way it is a water repeller, but still don't know how it work (i mean good or not))
                          Any suggestion?

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                          @Richard-Johnson said in How to detect wild animal pests in a windy garden?:

                          I oder the LIGHT IT by Fulcrum 20034-104 Motion Sensor Porch Light from https://stoppestinfo.com/372-best-raccoon-repellents.html .
                          I used it during one month and it work well, using the light like a repeller from raccoons. So i hear about one more way it is a water repeller, but still don't know how it work (i mean good or not))
                          Any suggestion?

                          This thing actually did seem to work quite well:
                          https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B072LW4VWV/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1&tag=wwwmysensorso-20
                          Scared the skunk away at least a couple times. The one I bought from aliexpress was total junk though.

                          The water repeller thing may have helped. it's hard to know really.

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                            @gohan do not judge anything by how it bothers cats. In my experience the only thing that bothers them is if you dont feed them or if you throw away their cardboard box.

                            The rc car would should work for most critters, really anything that makes a sudden motion should.

                            Side note raccoons are the only animal less bothered by people than cats.

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                              I think I may buy a drone electric motor and propellers that will activate when PIR is fired :D

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                                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cphGWOPi0k

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                                • NeverDieN NeverDie

                                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cphGWOPi0k

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                                  @NeverDie Too funny. Might have to get a can of that.

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                                    #36

                                    Nice topic.
                                    I was gonna to say, thought it may seem Overkill, that you could setup a small zone minder system with a cheap night vision camera pointing downwards as high as possible.
                                    Then zm allows for setting up virtual fences by drawing on the camera image, and if anything changes in the region (with configurable threshold) it fires a trigger or alarm.
                                    You could start the sprinklers.

                                    I would like to have a domoticz integration plugin.

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                                      That needs to be powered, I don't think you can use batteries

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                                      • Sergio RiusS Sergio Rius

                                        Nice topic.
                                        I was gonna to say, thought it may seem Overkill, that you could setup a small zone minder system with a cheap night vision camera pointing downwards as high as possible.
                                        Then zm allows for setting up virtual fences by drawing on the camera image, and if anything changes in the region (with configurable threshold) it fires a trigger or alarm.
                                        You could start the sprinklers.

                                        I would like to have a domoticz integration plugin.

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                                        @Sergio-Rius said in How to detect wild animal pests in a windy garden?:

                                        Nice topic.
                                        I was gonna to say, thought it may seem Overkill, that you could setup a small zone minder system with a cheap night vision camera pointing downwards as high as possible.
                                        Then zm allows for setting up virtual fences by drawing on the camera image, and if anything changes in the region (with configurable threshold) it fires a trigger or alarm.
                                        You could start the sprinklers.

                                        I would like to have a domoticz integration plugin.

                                        I like your idea. Would that solution be immune to false triggers from the wind blowing the leaves to and fro?

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                                        • NeverDieN NeverDie

                                          @Sergio-Rius said in How to detect wild animal pests in a windy garden?:

                                          Nice topic.
                                          I was gonna to say, thought it may seem Overkill, that you could setup a small zone minder system with a cheap night vision camera pointing downwards as high as possible.
                                          Then zm allows for setting up virtual fences by drawing on the camera image, and if anything changes in the region (with configurable threshold) it fires a trigger or alarm.
                                          You could start the sprinklers.

                                          I would like to have a domoticz integration plugin.

                                          I like your idea. Would that solution be immune to false triggers from the wind blowing the leaves to and fro?

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                                          @NeverDie Yes, it has a threshold for the amount of change for it to trigger. And by using a night vision cam I suppose alive beings should show brighter.
                                          Well, I only had false detections at night from car lighting the garden.
                                          Pointing from above makes easy defining the detection area at the grass.

                                          If a camera sensor that incorporates this function could be done it would be incredible. I wonder if there's a powerful enough mcu to scan the camera images and run such an algoritm on the sequences, without being a complete rpi_with_Os-like system.
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