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I have great problem with raspberry and domoticz and mysensors gateway !

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    Reza
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    #1

    hi guys.
    i have a great problem and i cannot found that reason!
    i use a raspberrypi 3
    domoticz v3.5877 ( i dont need to upgrade because i use special theme and icon )
    and use a mysensors gateway for raspberry pi .
    this is happen after 7 -8 month for me (twice) so twice my pi is failure.
    in hardware i use a 2.5A power for raspberry and use a LF33CV with a 100u capacitor for NRF+ radio (connect to 5v pinout on raspberry). and wiring is similar to mysensors guide.
    also use espeasy for relay modules....
    this is happen for second time . after 7-8 month that i use domoticz and mysensors and espeasy ... so i see some relay dont work or very bad work . so after reboot raspberry or turn off/on i see just red LED is on ( in raspberry) and LED in network cable is off, after some off/on/off/on/off/on power green LED is blink and start domoticz but relay again dont work... with reboot again just red led on......
    i think my PI is failure ( i have similar expramance 9 month ago) and i think the reason is just about domoticz or mysensors gateway or hardware about gateway... because i dont have any other apps or devices on RPI...

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    • R Reza

      hi guys.
      i have a great problem and i cannot found that reason!
      i use a raspberrypi 3
      domoticz v3.5877 ( i dont need to upgrade because i use special theme and icon )
      and use a mysensors gateway for raspberry pi .
      this is happen after 7 -8 month for me (twice) so twice my pi is failure.
      in hardware i use a 2.5A power for raspberry and use a LF33CV with a 100u capacitor for NRF+ radio (connect to 5v pinout on raspberry). and wiring is similar to mysensors guide.
      also use espeasy for relay modules....
      this is happen for second time . after 7-8 month that i use domoticz and mysensors and espeasy ... so i see some relay dont work or very bad work . so after reboot raspberry or turn off/on i see just red LED is on ( in raspberry) and LED in network cable is off, after some off/on/off/on/off/on power green LED is blink and start domoticz but relay again dont work... with reboot again just red led on......
      i think my PI is failure ( i have similar expramance 9 month ago) and i think the reason is just about domoticz or mysensors gateway or hardware about gateway... because i dont have any other apps or devices on RPI...

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      sundberg84
      Hardware Contributor
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      #2

      @Reza - so its not just a corrupt sd-card which is quite common if you have something writing alot.

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        marceltrapman
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        I had the same issue with my raspberry pi and OpenHAB.
        After a couple of weeks it would crash and ultimately corrupt my sd card.

        I solved that issue by:

        1. Reinstall Raspbian;
        2. Reinstall OpenHAB and pay very careful attention for both the application and Raspbian;
        3. Reboot the Raspberry Pi each saturday night at 12:00 (but you can use any day/time ;))

        #3 is a medicine obviously and not the cure.
        I am not even sure it is necessary but it give me confidence...

        Maybe the same procedure helps your case.

        Fulltime Servoy Developer
        Parttime Moderator MySensors board

        I use Domoticz as controller for Z-Wave and MySensors (previously Indigo and OpenHAB).
        I have a FABtotum to print cases.

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        • sundberg84S sundberg84

          @Reza - so its not just a corrupt sd-card which is quite common if you have something writing alot.

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          Reza
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          @sundberg84 said in I have great problem with raspberry and domoticz and mysensors gateway !:

          so its not just a corrupt sd-card which is quite common if you have something writing alot.

          thank you for answer . so you think this is related to sd card ?because i format sd card and again setup all levels. also i change sd card 7 month ago (and change Rpi). but ....
          i thing there is a problem in RPi hardeware !
          i setup domoticz and mysensors gateway. i use 5 multi sensors for mysensors and use 10 relay module with espeasy. and there is not any app or program on RPi...

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          • marceltrapmanM marceltrapman

            I had the same issue with my raspberry pi and OpenHAB.
            After a couple of weeks it would crash and ultimately corrupt my sd card.

            I solved that issue by:

            1. Reinstall Raspbian;
            2. Reinstall OpenHAB and pay very careful attention for both the application and Raspbian;
            3. Reboot the Raspberry Pi each saturday night at 12:00 (but you can use any day/time ;))

            #3 is a medicine obviously and not the cure.
            I am not even sure it is necessary but it give me confidence...

            Maybe the same procedure helps your case.

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            Reza
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            #5

            @marceltrapman said in I have great problem with raspberry and domoticz and mysensors gateway !:

            I had the same issue with my raspberry pi and OpenHAB.
            After a couple of weeks it would crash and ultimately corrupt my sd card.
            I solved that issue by:

            Reinstall Raspbian;
            Reinstall OpenHAB and pay very careful attention for both the application and Raspbian;
            Reboot the Raspberry Pi each saturday night at 12:00 (but you can use any day/time )

            #3 is a medicine obviously and not the cure.
            I am not even sure it is necessary but it give me confidence...
            Maybe the same procedure helps your case.

            thank you for answer . i want found problem ! so this is related to 24-hour every day RPI is on?

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            • sundberg84S sundberg84

              @Reza - so its not just a corrupt sd-card which is quite common if you have something writing alot.

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              Reza
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              @sundberg84 my friend if a sensor send many report to domoticz, so this is a "quite common if you have something writing alot." ?

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                sundberg84
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                You need to use a class 10 sd-card from a known manufacturer.
                Another idea is to disable logging so it does not use up the write cycles so quick.

                Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                • sundberg84S sundberg84

                  You need to use a class 10 sd-card from a known manufacturer.
                  Another idea is to disable logging so it does not use up the write cycles so quick.

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                  Reza
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                  @sundberg84 said in I have great problem with raspberry and domoticz and mysensors gateway !:

                  You need to use a class 10 sd-card from a known manufacturer.
                  Another idea is to disable logging so it does not use up the write cycles so quick.

                  so you think this is related just sd card ? this is my sd card
                  0_1504527788188_photo_2017-09-04_16-51-49.jpg

                  "Another idea is to disable logging so it does not use up the write cycles so quick."
                  how can i disable this ?
                  thank you for help

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                  • R Reza

                    @sundberg84 said in I have great problem with raspberry and domoticz and mysensors gateway !:

                    You need to use a class 10 sd-card from a known manufacturer.
                    Another idea is to disable logging so it does not use up the write cycles so quick.

                    so you think this is related just sd card ? this is my sd card
                    0_1504527788188_photo_2017-09-04_16-51-49.jpg

                    "Another idea is to disable logging so it does not use up the write cycles so quick."
                    how can i disable this ?
                    thank you for help

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                    sundberg84
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                    wrote on last edited by sundberg84
                    #9

                    @Reza - there are different ways to do this, and Im no expert.
                    Please have a look and continue from there...

                    https://domoticz.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=8788

                    • Make system read only http://blog.pi3g.com/2014/04/make-raspb ... read-only/
                    • Run system from external HD http://raspberrypihobbyist.blogspot.nl/ ... drive.html
                    • Boot from USB http://jonathanmh.com/boot-raspberry-pi ... usb-stick/

                    Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                    MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                    MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                    RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                    • sundberg84S sundberg84

                      @Reza - there are different ways to do this, and Im no expert.
                      Please have a look and continue from there...

                      https://domoticz.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=8788

                      • Make system read only http://blog.pi3g.com/2014/04/make-raspb ... read-only/
                      • Run system from external HD http://raspberrypihobbyist.blogspot.nl/ ... drive.html
                      • Boot from USB http://jonathanmh.com/boot-raspberry-pi ... usb-stick/
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                      Reza
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                      #10

                      @sundberg84 said in I have great problem with raspberry and domoticz and mysensors gateway !:

                      @Reza - there are different ways to do this, and Im no expert.
                      Please have a look and continue from there...
                      https://domoticz.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=8788

                      Make system read only http://blog.pi3g.com/2014/04/make-raspb ... read-only/
                      Run system from external HD http://raspberrypihobbyist.blogspot.nl/ ... drive.html
                      Boot from USB http://jonathanmh.com/boot-raspberry-pi ... usb-stick/

                      thank you very much

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                      • R Reza

                        @marceltrapman said in I have great problem with raspberry and domoticz and mysensors gateway !:

                        I had the same issue with my raspberry pi and OpenHAB.
                        After a couple of weeks it would crash and ultimately corrupt my sd card.
                        I solved that issue by:

                        Reinstall Raspbian;
                        Reinstall OpenHAB and pay very careful attention for both the application and Raspbian;
                        Reboot the Raspberry Pi each saturday night at 12:00 (but you can use any day/time )

                        #3 is a medicine obviously and not the cure.
                        I am not even sure it is necessary but it give me confidence...
                        Maybe the same procedure helps your case.

                        thank you for answer . i want found problem ! so this is related to 24-hour every day RPI is on?

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                        marceltrapman
                        Mod
                        wrote on last edited by
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                        @Reza sai

                        thank you for answer . i want found problem ! so this is related to 24-hour every day RPI is on?

                        I don't think that is what I said, I wrote down how I solved it.
                        Not saying that it will work for you but it could be worth the try.

                        Fulltime Servoy Developer
                        Parttime Moderator MySensors board

                        I use Domoticz as controller for Z-Wave and MySensors (previously Indigo and OpenHAB).
                        I have a FABtotum to print cases.

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                        • marceltrapmanM marceltrapman

                          @Reza sai

                          thank you for answer . i want found problem ! so this is related to 24-hour every day RPI is on?

                          I don't think that is what I said, I wrote down how I solved it.
                          Not saying that it will work for you but it could be worth the try.

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                          Reza
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                          #12

                          @marceltrapman said in I have great problem with raspberry and domoticz and mysensors gateway !:

                          I don't think that is what I said, I wrote down how I solved it.
                          Not saying that it will work for you but it could be worth the try.

                          thank you my friend

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                          • sundberg84S sundberg84

                            @Reza - there are different ways to do this, and Im no expert.
                            Please have a look and continue from there...

                            https://domoticz.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=8788

                            • Make system read only http://blog.pi3g.com/2014/04/make-raspb ... read-only/
                            • Run system from external HD http://raspberrypihobbyist.blogspot.nl/ ... drive.html
                            • Boot from USB http://jonathanmh.com/boot-raspberry-pi ... usb-stick/
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                            Reza
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                            #13

                            @sundberg84
                            i buy a new sd card and write again os and domoticz and gateway...
                            now LED is ok and i have a ip for raspberry. but i think my raspberry's hardware is failure because now my commands send with a lot delay or can not send. or save and send all commands together suddenly . Do you know why?

                            but about read only. thank you . i read this. but i have question. with this work after power off/on my sd card will not fail , is this true ? but when i do to read only , there is not any problem in Performance domoticz and my sensors and gateway? for send and receive commands ?after setup domoticz and my sensors gate way i can change to read only ? thank you

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                              @sundberg84
                              i buy a new sd card and write again os and domoticz and gateway...
                              now LED is ok and i have a ip for raspberry. but i think my raspberry's hardware is failure because now my commands send with a lot delay or can not send. or save and send all commands together suddenly . Do you know why?

                              but about read only. thank you . i read this. but i have question. with this work after power off/on my sd card will not fail , is this true ? but when i do to read only , there is not any problem in Performance domoticz and my sensors and gateway? for send and receive commands ?after setup domoticz and my sensors gate way i can change to read only ? thank you

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                              sundberg84
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                              wrote on last edited by sundberg84
                              #14

                              @Reza -I dont use read only because I wish to log. Instead I backup my database every day... preparing for a SD-card failure.

                              I have bought a class 10 8gb SanDisk and this has lasted me 2 years now with standard settings. First one was about 6-8 months with another brand.

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                              MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                              MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
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                                Use Berryboot AND fast USB drive to solve most of the problems related to corruption on SD card due power failures and number of write cycles. I have been using it for 2+ yrs now...

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                                • sundberg84S sundberg84

                                  @Reza -I dont use read only because I wish to log. Instead I backup my database every day... preparing for a SD-card failure.

                                  I have bought a class 10 8gb SanDisk and this has lasted me 2 years now with standard settings. First one was about 6-8 months with another brand.

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                                  @sundberg84 my new sd card is sandisk. setup again domoticz and mysensors gateway...
                                  now os is ok even with power off/on. but i think my raspberry is fail . i think cpu is fail. before i compile domoticz with -j4 without any problem . but now with -j4 after 10-20% rpi is freeze. even when i compile with just make, when i want use domoticz for send command for relay , this have a a lot delay , or command can not send , or save command and after 1 min send all command. i think cpu can not work correct and have a hardware problem ! but i dont know why happen this ! after 7 month rpi was on the table and power was ok and i dont install any new software on the rpi ! suddenly happen...

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                                  • V vikasjee

                                    Use Berryboot AND fast USB drive to solve most of the problems related to corruption on SD card due power failures and number of write cycles. I have been using it for 2+ yrs now...

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                                    Reza
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                                    @vikasjee thank you . but my main problem is not sd card . after 8 month my Rpi is fail suddenly :( i want found why...

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                                      @Reza

                                      Continuous writes to a SD card, will make it fail at some point in time, it's just a question of time!.. And thus it will make the rpi fail.
                                      Another thing can also be powering issues. (and even combined with a failing SD Card..)

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                                      • tbowmoT tbowmo

                                        @Reza

                                        Continuous writes to a SD card, will make it fail at some point in time, it's just a question of time!.. And thus it will make the rpi fail.
                                        Another thing can also be powering issues. (and even combined with a failing SD Card..)

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                                        thank you dear @tbowmo
                                        so this (fail cpu or rpi board) can related to write in cd card ? because i am confused .i can not found why suddenly... . i tested power and didn't have problem(if power of my house have problem so first power supply of raspberry should to fail). my rpi was working for 7-8 month without any access people to it and i dont any install new app or program. just power on rpi and put on my table !
                                        in rpi was just domoticz and mysensors gateway. i used this just for smart home.
                                        now i want just found reason of problem and solve this :(
                                        do you think this problem (rpi fail) can related to sd card ? (According to the above description)
                                        if yes , so for resolve , what is your suggest ? use a usb memory ? or read only (i want use rpi just for domoticz and mysensors gateway and devices)?with read only i can not see any report in domoticz log ?
                                        thank you

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                                          thank you dear @tbowmo
                                          so this (fail cpu or rpi board) can related to write in cd card ? because i am confused .i can not found why suddenly... . i tested power and didn't have problem(if power of my house have problem so first power supply of raspberry should to fail). my rpi was working for 7-8 month without any access people to it and i dont any install new app or program. just power on rpi and put on my table !
                                          in rpi was just domoticz and mysensors gateway. i used this just for smart home.
                                          now i want just found reason of problem and solve this :(
                                          do you think this problem (rpi fail) can related to sd card ? (According to the above description)
                                          if yes , so for resolve , what is your suggest ? use a usb memory ? or read only (i want use rpi just for domoticz and mysensors gateway and devices)?with read only i can not see any report in domoticz log ?
                                          thank you

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                                          @Reza

                                          In it's default setup, domoticz writes log files and other data to the SD card all the time, and this can (over time) wear the SD card down, and eventually make it fail!

                                          F.ex. everytime my domoticz instance receives a message from the MySensors gateway, it writes a log entry, describing which node it received the data from. (I have my log file stored on a ram disk though, so not writing directly to the SD card)

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