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  • NeverDieN NeverDie

    Here's a thread which covers it in more detail: https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/8936/6-8-buttons-battery-remote-node/36

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    @neverdie what happens when you press two or more buttons ??

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    • rozpruwaczR rozpruwacz

      @neverdie what happens when you press two or more buttons ??

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      #365

      @rozpruwacz Well, with the sketch I wrote (see link), you'd get the value of the first button pressed, and that's it. You'd have to release all the buttons before selecting a new button.

      In terms of the hardware itself, there's an order of precedence to the buttons, so at all times you'd only be able to read the value of a single button, even if more than one button were pressed. In a multi-button press scenario, the buttons of lower precedence are ignored.

      It's a good question though. If you needed to read more than one button simultaneously (such as, for example, move an RC car forward and turn right at the same time), this wouldn't do it. Seems like such a circuit would be possible though, maybe even one based on simple voltage dividing like this one. Somehow you'd need to sum unique resistances for each button pushed instead of just choose a single resistance. I can imagine doing that for a few buttons on an arduino, but maybe not as many as 12.

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      • NeverDieN NeverDie

        @rozpruwacz Well, with the sketch I wrote (see link), you'd get the value of the first button pressed, and that's it. You'd have to release all the buttons before selecting a new button.

        In terms of the hardware itself, there's an order of precedence to the buttons, so at all times you'd only be able to read the value of a single button, even if more than one button were pressed. In a multi-button press scenario, the buttons of lower precedence are ignored.

        It's a good question though. If you needed to read more than one button simultaneously (such as, for example, move an RC car forward and turn right at the same time), this wouldn't do it. Seems like such a circuit would be possible though, maybe even one based on simple voltage dividing like this one. Somehow you'd need to sum unique resistances for each button pushed instead of just choose a single resistance. I can imagine doing that for a few buttons on an arduino, but maybe not as many as 12.

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        @neverdie I'm asking because I Was trying to do something like this. If there was a resistor values set that would make all 2**n (where n is the number of buttons) choices spaced enough in voltage domain it would work, but I couldn't find such a set ...

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        • rozpruwaczR rozpruwacz

          @neverdie I'm asking because I Was trying to do something like this. If there was a resistor values set that would make all 2**n (where n is the number of buttons) choices spaced enough in voltage domain it would work, but I couldn't find such a set ...

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          #367

          @rozpruwacz said in What did you build today (Pictures) ?:

          @neverdie I'm asking because I Was trying to do something like this. If there was a resistor values set that would make all 2**n (where n is the number of buttons) choices spaced enough in voltage domain it would work, but I couldn't find such a set ...

          That's why it might work if you needed it for only a few buttons. With only 1024 units of voltage, seems like you'd quickly run out of resolution if you tried to do more.

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            #368

            I built my first MysX daughter board which I will connect to my EasyPCB to drive a led strip.
            This will power everything from 12v so 2 things. Power main board and dim LED strip.

            0_1517346818295_f17d0698-17e1-4842-997e-fa8ddc1d8019-image.png

            Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
            MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
            MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
            RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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            • sundberg84S sundberg84

              I built my first MysX daughter board which I will connect to my EasyPCB to drive a led strip.
              This will power everything from 12v so 2 things. Power main board and dim LED strip.

              0_1517346818295_f17d0698-17e1-4842-997e-fa8ddc1d8019-image.png

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              #369

              Do anyone knows it the back of a TO-220 always is connected to GND and if this should be connected to the board GND as well? Currently I have a exposed copper as a heatsink but this copper is not connected to GND.

              Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
              MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
              MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
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                #370

                @sundberg84

                Depends on the manufacturer / device type.. So look in the datasheet of the one that you want to use.

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                • tbowmoT tbowmo

                  @sundberg84

                  Depends on the manufacturer / device type.. So look in the datasheet of the one that you want to use.

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                  wrote on last edited by sundberg84
                  #371

                  @tbowmo
                  Thank you - I want to be able to use them all/different (ie. 5v, 3.3v, different manufacturer) so I wont connect it and just use it as a heatsink.

                  Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                  MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                  MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
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                  • tbowmoT tbowmo

                    @sundberg84

                    Depends on the manufacturer / device type.. So look in the datasheet of the one that you want to use.

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                    #372

                    @tbowmo I agree, it would be per device specs. In many cases I see that connected to the middle pin (whatever that may be), but not always.

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                      Made this two-button nRF52832 remote control:
                      0_1517498847917_nrf52_remote.jpg
                      It only draws power when one of the buttons is pressed.

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                        #374

                        nice :) what about range of the nRF52832 ? is it better than nfr24l01+ with pcb antenna ? I had problems with nrf24 and now I'm trying with rfm69. From first tests I can tell that it has much better range - but it is slightly larger and requires an antenna ...

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                        • rozpruwaczR rozpruwacz

                          nice :) what about range of the nRF52832 ? is it better than nfr24l01+ with pcb antenna ? I had problems with nrf24 and now I'm trying with rfm69. From first tests I can tell that it has much better range - but it is slightly larger and requires an antenna ...

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                          @rozpruwacz said in What did you build today (Pictures) ?:

                          is it better than nfr24l01+ with pcb antenna ?

                          yes

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                            Assembled and tested final version of LoRa Leak Detector:
                            0_1517532798060_lora_leak_detector_v15.jpg
                            Thanks to an external watchdog (TPL5010), it consumes very little current while sleeping. Also, the external watchdog will reboot the pro mini should it ever become unresponsive, so, in addition, it should be highly reliable.

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                            • NeverDieN NeverDie

                              Assembled and tested final version of LoRa Leak Detector:
                              0_1517532798060_lora_leak_detector_v15.jpg
                              Thanks to an external watchdog (TPL5010), it consumes very little current while sleeping. Also, the external watchdog will reboot the pro mini should it ever become unresponsive, so, in addition, it should be highly reliable.

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                              @neverdie said in What did you build today (Pictures) ?:

                              TPL5010

                              That's a really nice IC, I was looking for something like that but it seems I didn't search with the right keywords.
                              Thank you for sharing the discovery !

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                                #378

                                Made a simple LoRa node using my CNC:
                                0_1517982209204_lora_node.jpg

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                                  #379

                                  Upgraded it to include two AA batteries and a DS18B20 temp sensor. Future versions will tap the I2C pins on the pro mini, so those will have better TH sensors.

                                  0_1518188724144_lora_temp.jpg
                                  Range is noticeably better than when I was running the LoRa from just a breadboard. :)

                                  I'm tempted to use a double sided PCB and give the LoRa a more proper and really big ground plane to see if that boosts range even more (at the same power level).

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                                  • NeverDieN NeverDie

                                    Upgraded it to include two AA batteries and a DS18B20 temp sensor. Future versions will tap the I2C pins on the pro mini, so those will have better TH sensors.

                                    0_1518188724144_lora_temp.jpg
                                    Range is noticeably better than when I was running the LoRa from just a breadboard. :)

                                    I'm tempted to use a double sided PCB and give the LoRa a more proper and really big ground plane to see if that boosts range even more (at the same power level).

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                                    @neverdie You can also consider replicating the 1/4 wave against ground in the opposite direction perhaps? ;)

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                                    • zboblamontZ zboblamont

                                      @neverdie You can also consider replicating the 1/4 wave against ground in the opposite direction perhaps? ;)

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                                      @zboblamont said in What did you build today (Pictures) ?:

                                      @neverdie You can also consider replicating the 1/4 wave against ground in the opposite direction perhaps? ;)

                                      I don't understand what you mean. Can you explain a bit more what that would be?

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                                      • NeverDieN NeverDie

                                        @zboblamont said in What did you build today (Pictures) ?:

                                        @neverdie You can also consider replicating the 1/4 wave against ground in the opposite direction perhaps? ;)

                                        I don't understand what you mean. Can you explain a bit more what that would be?

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                                        @neverdie Sure.
                                        A quarter wave on an ideal Ground Plane mimics a half wave, the GP is sort of like a mirror in radio terms for the 1/4 above it....
                                        Ergo two identical 1/4 waves, one attached to RF feed the other attached to ground, does the same thing, although in fact slightly better...

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                                        • zboblamontZ zboblamont

                                          @neverdie Sure.
                                          A quarter wave on an ideal Ground Plane mimics a half wave, the GP is sort of like a mirror in radio terms for the 1/4 above it....
                                          Ergo two identical 1/4 waves, one attached to RF feed the other attached to ground, does the same thing, although in fact slightly better...

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                                          wrote on last edited by NeverDie
                                          #383

                                          @zboblamont So, what you are advocating is a dipole antenna? i.e. something notionally similar to this:
                                          https://www.openhardware.io/view/277/ESP8266-RFM69HW-gateway-with-dipole-antenna
                                          At least, that is what it sounds like to me.

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