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What did you build today (Pictures) ?

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  • tbowmoT Offline
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    tbowmo
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    wrote on last edited by
    #370

    @sundberg84

    Depends on the manufacturer / device type.. So look in the datasheet of the one that you want to use.

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    • tbowmoT tbowmo

      @sundberg84

      Depends on the manufacturer / device type.. So look in the datasheet of the one that you want to use.

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      wrote on last edited by sundberg84
      #371

      @tbowmo
      Thank you - I want to be able to use them all/different (ie. 5v, 3.3v, different manufacturer) so I wont connect it and just use it as a heatsink.

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      • tbowmoT tbowmo

        @sundberg84

        Depends on the manufacturer / device type.. So look in the datasheet of the one that you want to use.

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        #372

        @tbowmo I agree, it would be per device specs. In many cases I see that connected to the middle pin (whatever that may be), but not always.

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        • NeverDieN Offline
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          #373

          Made this two-button nRF52832 remote control:
          0_1517498847917_nrf52_remote.jpg
          It only draws power when one of the buttons is pressed.

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            #374

            nice :) what about range of the nRF52832 ? is it better than nfr24l01+ with pcb antenna ? I had problems with nrf24 and now I'm trying with rfm69. From first tests I can tell that it has much better range - but it is slightly larger and requires an antenna ...

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            • rozpruwaczR rozpruwacz

              nice :) what about range of the nRF52832 ? is it better than nfr24l01+ with pcb antenna ? I had problems with nrf24 and now I'm trying with rfm69. From first tests I can tell that it has much better range - but it is slightly larger and requires an antenna ...

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              #375

              @rozpruwacz said in What did you build today (Pictures) ?:

              is it better than nfr24l01+ with pcb antenna ?

              yes

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              • NeverDieN Offline
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                #376

                Assembled and tested final version of LoRa Leak Detector:
                0_1517532798060_lora_leak_detector_v15.jpg
                Thanks to an external watchdog (TPL5010), it consumes very little current while sleeping. Also, the external watchdog will reboot the pro mini should it ever become unresponsive, so, in addition, it should be highly reliable.

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                • NeverDieN NeverDie

                  Assembled and tested final version of LoRa Leak Detector:
                  0_1517532798060_lora_leak_detector_v15.jpg
                  Thanks to an external watchdog (TPL5010), it consumes very little current while sleeping. Also, the external watchdog will reboot the pro mini should it ever become unresponsive, so, in addition, it should be highly reliable.

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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #377

                  @neverdie said in What did you build today (Pictures) ?:

                  TPL5010

                  That's a really nice IC, I was looking for something like that but it seems I didn't search with the right keywords.
                  Thank you for sharing the discovery !

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                  • NeverDieN Offline
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                    #378

                    Made a simple LoRa node using my CNC:
                    0_1517982209204_lora_node.jpg

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                      wrote on last edited by NeverDie
                      #379

                      Upgraded it to include two AA batteries and a DS18B20 temp sensor. Future versions will tap the I2C pins on the pro mini, so those will have better TH sensors.

                      0_1518188724144_lora_temp.jpg
                      Range is noticeably better than when I was running the LoRa from just a breadboard. :)

                      I'm tempted to use a double sided PCB and give the LoRa a more proper and really big ground plane to see if that boosts range even more (at the same power level).

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                      • NeverDieN NeverDie

                        Upgraded it to include two AA batteries and a DS18B20 temp sensor. Future versions will tap the I2C pins on the pro mini, so those will have better TH sensors.

                        0_1518188724144_lora_temp.jpg
                        Range is noticeably better than when I was running the LoRa from just a breadboard. :)

                        I'm tempted to use a double sided PCB and give the LoRa a more proper and really big ground plane to see if that boosts range even more (at the same power level).

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                        #380

                        @neverdie You can also consider replicating the 1/4 wave against ground in the opposite direction perhaps? ;)

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                        • zboblamontZ zboblamont

                          @neverdie You can also consider replicating the 1/4 wave against ground in the opposite direction perhaps? ;)

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                          #381

                          @zboblamont said in What did you build today (Pictures) ?:

                          @neverdie You can also consider replicating the 1/4 wave against ground in the opposite direction perhaps? ;)

                          I don't understand what you mean. Can you explain a bit more what that would be?

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                          • NeverDieN NeverDie

                            @zboblamont said in What did you build today (Pictures) ?:

                            @neverdie You can also consider replicating the 1/4 wave against ground in the opposite direction perhaps? ;)

                            I don't understand what you mean. Can you explain a bit more what that would be?

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                            #382

                            @neverdie Sure.
                            A quarter wave on an ideal Ground Plane mimics a half wave, the GP is sort of like a mirror in radio terms for the 1/4 above it....
                            Ergo two identical 1/4 waves, one attached to RF feed the other attached to ground, does the same thing, although in fact slightly better...

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                            • zboblamontZ zboblamont

                              @neverdie Sure.
                              A quarter wave on an ideal Ground Plane mimics a half wave, the GP is sort of like a mirror in radio terms for the 1/4 above it....
                              Ergo two identical 1/4 waves, one attached to RF feed the other attached to ground, does the same thing, although in fact slightly better...

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                              wrote on last edited by NeverDie
                              #383

                              @zboblamont So, what you are advocating is a dipole antenna? i.e. something notionally similar to this:
                              https://www.openhardware.io/view/277/ESP8266-RFM69HW-gateway-with-dipole-antenna
                              At least, that is what it sounds like to me.

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                              • NeverDieN NeverDie

                                @zboblamont So, what you are advocating is a dipole antenna? i.e. something notionally similar to this:
                                https://www.openhardware.io/view/277/ESP8266-RFM69HW-gateway-with-dipole-antenna
                                At least, that is what it sounds like to me.

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                                #384

                                @neverdie Not advocating a dipole as such, only pointing to an alternative to your suggested ground plane at 90 degrees to the base of the antenna. Electrically, the second half of the dipole IS the ground plane, and vice versa.
                                With such physically small boards, it is virtually impossible to achieve the ideal ground plane unless the wavelength is very small, I suggested a duplicate helical tied to GND in the opposite direction to your antenna essentially accomplishes the same thing.

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                                  wrote on last edited by NeverDie
                                  #385

                                  Interestingly, I just now checked, and it appears my LoRa leak detectors have even better range still. Maybe it's because GND completely encircles the PCB along all four edges. This may cause me to rethink the design of the gateway node, which up to now has been much smaller than the leak detectors....

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                                    wrote on last edited by sundberg84
                                    #386

                                    0_1518791218187_15187911952321497205782.jpg

                                    Today some maintenance on my GW.

                                    Added a ground wire for debug and also corrected a buildmisstske and grounded the case.

                                    And relocated (let's hope for the best) it to my new HA DIY board...

                                    0_1518792236611_15187922282851484593467.jpg

                                    Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                                    MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                                    MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
                                    RFLink GW - Arduino Mega + RFLink Shield, 433mhz

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                                      #387

                                      And there was the first failing sensor.... But was it because I changed the location on the gw? Nope... I had a temp/hum right beside the gw which I pushed so it fell on the floor...

                                      0_1518793080330_Screenshot_20180216-155624.png

                                      Radio cap de-attashed and sensor died.

                                      Easy fix and now back in operation.

                                      Controller: Proxmox VM - Home Assistant
                                      MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - W5100 Ethernet, Gw Shield Nrf24l01+ 2,4Ghz
                                      MySensors GW: Arduino Uno - Gw Shield RFM69, 433mhz
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                                      • sundberg84S sundberg84

                                        0_1518791218187_15187911952321497205782.jpg

                                        Today some maintenance on my GW.

                                        Added a ground wire for debug and also corrected a buildmisstske and grounded the case.

                                        And relocated (let's hope for the best) it to my new HA DIY board...

                                        0_1518792236611_15187922282851484593467.jpg

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                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #388

                                        @sundberg84 Sorry for the stupid question, but what holds your WEB/MAIL black box in place?

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                                        • sundberg84S sundberg84

                                          And there was the first failing sensor.... But was it because I changed the location on the gw? Nope... I had a temp/hum right beside the gw which I pushed so it fell on the floor...

                                          0_1518793080330_Screenshot_20180216-155624.png

                                          Radio cap de-attashed and sensor died.

                                          Easy fix and now back in operation.

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                                          wrote on last edited by
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                                          @sundberg84 said in What did you build today (Pictures) ?:

                                          And there was the first failing sensor.... But was it because I changed the location on the gw? Nope... I had a temp/hum right beside the gw which I pushed so it fell on the floor...

                                          You meant "the first FALLING sensor" :sweat_smile:

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