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  • Tore André RosanderT Offline
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    Tore André Rosander
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    #27

    Is it possible to detect the distance to the lightningstrike?
    I was thinking to get some sort of detector to notify me if there is ligning registered X km away from my home.

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    • Tore André RosanderT Tore André Rosander

      Is it possible to detect the distance to the lightningstrike?
      I was thinking to get some sort of detector to notify me if there is ligning registered X km away from my home.

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      #28

      @Tore-André-Rosander

      You would need a sound detector for the thunder. Time (in milliseconds) between lightning and thunder times 0.34[m].

      Same as you would do it with your own sensors (eyes and ears) :-)

      BR,

      Boozz

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      • Tore André RosanderT Tore André Rosander

        Is it possible to detect the distance to the lightningstrike?
        I was thinking to get some sort of detector to notify me if there is ligning registered X km away from my home.

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        Sparkman
        Hero Member
        wrote on last edited by
        #29

        @Tore-André-Rosander Yes, the sensor can detect the distance. See the details of the sensor here: http://playingwithfusion.com/productview.php?pdid=22&catid=1001. Although I'm starting to believe that it's actually a lightning repeller rather than a lightning sensor as we've had very little lightning in our area after I installed it :laughing:

        Cheers
        Al

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        • alexsh1A Offline
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          #30

          I found a similar sensor in the UK and added this to the list of my to be sensors for the weatherstation. Can I use it inside or it has to be placed outside to have a direct vision?

          http://www.embeddedadventures.com/as3935_lightning_sensor_module_mod-1016.html

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          • alexsh1A alexsh1

            I found a similar sensor in the UK and added this to the list of my to be sensors for the weatherstation. Can I use it inside or it has to be placed outside to have a direct vision?

            http://www.embeddedadventures.com/as3935_lightning_sensor_module_mod-1016.html

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            Tore André Rosander
            wrote on last edited by
            #31

            @alexsh1 What i read when researching this chip it can be placed inside.

            @Sparkman Nice, i see that it has a detection range about 40km so thats already a pretty good distance to get a notification when lightning is detected.

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            • alexsh1A Offline
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              #32

              @Sparkman I suppose your wiring diagram above is correct? I noted that the sensor is not working with 3.3V. Did you manage to find what the problem was? Looking at the datasheet http://www.embeddedadventures.com/datasheets/MOD-1016_hw_v8_doc_v4.pdf I can see what the module can operate down to 2.4V

              I am going to receive the sensor in a few days and test it.

              As I have a different module manufacturer, I may need to change the sketch as it uses a different library. This is unmodified example sketch:

              */
              
              // AS3935 MOD-1016 Lightning Sensor Arduino test sketch
              // Written originally by Embedded Adventures
              
              
              #include <Wire.h>
              #include <AS3935.h>
              
              #define IRQ_pin 2
              
              volatile bool detected = false;
              
              void setup() {
                Serial.begin(115200);
                while (!Serial) {}
                Serial.println("Welcome to the MOD-1016 (AS3935) Lightning Sensor test sketch!");
                Serial.println("Embedded Adventures (www.embeddedadventures.com)\n");
              
                Wire.begin();
                mod1016.init(IRQ_pin);
               
                //Tune Caps, Set AFE, Set Noise Floor
                //autoTuneCaps(IRQ_pin);
                
                mod1016.setTuneCaps(7);
                mod1016.setOutdoors();
                mod1016.setNoiseFloor(5);
                
                
                Serial.println("TUNE\tIN/OUT\tNOISEFLOOR");
                Serial.print(mod1016.getTuneCaps(), HEX);
                Serial.print("\t");
                Serial.print(mod1016.getAFE(), BIN);
                Serial.print("\t");
                Serial.println(mod1016.getNoiseFloor(), HEX);
                Serial.print("\n");
              
                pinMode(IRQ_pin, INPUT);
                attachInterrupt(digitalPinToInterrupt(IRQ_pin), alert, RISING);
                Serial.println("after interrupt");
              }
              
              void loop() {
                if (detected) {
                  translateIRQ(mod1016.getIRQ());
                  detected = false;
                }
              }
              
              void alert() {
                detected = true;
              }
              
              void translateIRQ(uns8 irq) {
                switch(irq) {
                    case 1:
                      Serial.println("NOISE DETECTED");
                      break;
                    case 4:
                      Serial.println("DISTURBER DETECTED");
                      break;
                    case 8: 
                      Serial.println("LIGHTNING DETECTED");
                      printDistance();
                      break;
                  }
              }
              
              void printDistance() {
                int distance = mod1016.calculateDistance();
                if (distance == -1)
                  Serial.println("Lightning out of range");
                else if (distance == 1)
                  Serial.println("Distance not in table");
                else if (distance == 0)
                  Serial.println("Lightning overhead");
                else {
                  Serial.print("Lightning ~");
                  Serial.print(distance);
                  Serial.println("km away\n");  
                }
              }
              

              This is SPI sketch, I'd like to use I2C connection. Generally, the procedure is as follows:

              Wait a few milliseconds for the system to stabilise
               Set the tune capacitor to the value indicated on the packaging, by setting the
              TUNE_CAP bits of register 8
               Wait 2 milliseconds
               Callibrate RCO by:
              o Sending a calibrate RCO direct command (set memory location 0x3d to the
              value 0x96)
              o Set Register 0x08, bit 5 to 1
              o Wait 2 milliseconds
              o Set Register 0x08, bit 5 to 0
              The factory calibrating tuning cap value will be fine for general use. When you have a
              MOD-1016 in an enclosure or close to other electronics it is worth calibrating the tuning
              cap again.

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              • scalzS Offline
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                scalz
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                wrote on last edited by scalz
                #33

                can't wait to test this one too ;) i have pcbs for a weather shield (with bme280, veml6070 etc. ) and i have this sensor on it too (https://forum.mysensors.org/uploads/files/1459631385870-stacked.jpg). But not assembled yet, was busy, i hope asap.. i plan to use it with 3v and i2c. @alexsh1 There are libs for i2c if you want :)

                Thx @Sparkman for your work on it ;)

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                • scalzS scalz

                  can't wait to test this one too ;) i have pcbs for a weather shield (with bme280, veml6070 etc. ) and i have this sensor on it too (https://forum.mysensors.org/uploads/files/1459631385870-stacked.jpg). But not assembled yet, was busy, i hope asap.. i plan to use it with 3v and i2c. @alexsh1 There are libs for i2c if you want :)

                  Thx @Sparkman for your work on it ;)

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                  #34

                  @scalz yes, please (for i2c lib). What is this red board you have?

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                  • SparkmanS Offline
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                    Sparkman
                    Hero Member
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #35

                    @alexsh1 @scalz

                    I'm running my sketch with I2C now, rather than SPI. I found the sensor would lock up occassionally, so recently converted it and am still testing it. I have mine running at 5v now as well instead of 3.3v, but it works fine with either.

                    I'll post an updated sketch (and wiring diagram) soon. I based both the spi and i2c sketches on the examples found here: http://playingwithfusion.com/productview.php?pdid=22&catid=1001.

                    Cheers
                    Al

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                      @alexsh1 @scalz

                      I'm running my sketch with I2C now, rather than SPI. I found the sensor would lock up occassionally, so recently converted it and am still testing it. I have mine running at 5v now as well instead of 3.3v, but it works fine with either.

                      I'll post an updated sketch (and wiring diagram) soon. I based both the spi and i2c sketches on the examples found here: http://playingwithfusion.com/productview.php?pdid=22&catid=1001.

                      Cheers
                      Al

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                      alexsh1
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #36

                      @Sparkman Thanks. Your sketch is very much appreciated. I'll have to adopt it anyway as I have a different manufacture and there is a certain process I have to follow to get it initiated (posted above).

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                      • alexsh1A Offline
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                        alexsh1
                        wrote on last edited by alexsh1
                        #37

                        Absolutely delighted with the module I have received today by post. The weather is sh@t tonight (lightning, rain etc.) which means that I can test it:

                        Welcome to the MOD-1016 (AS3935) Lightning Sensor test sketch!
                        TUNE	IN/OUT	NOISEFLOOR
                        6	10010	5
                        
                        after interrupt
                        DISTURBER DETECTED
                        DISTURBER DETECTED
                        DISTURBER DETECTED
                        DISTURBER DETECTED
                        DISTURBER DETECTED
                        LIGHTNING DETECTED
                        Lightning ~27km away
                        
                        DISTURBER DETECTED
                        DISTURBER DETECTED
                        LIGHTNING DETECTED
                        Lightning ~17km away
                        
                        DISTURBER DETECTED
                        LIGHTNING DETECTED
                        Lightning ~10km away
                        

                        I calibrated the sensor and put a reasonable "noise floor". Now I have to convert it into MySensors and hook up to the ceech board outside.

                        @Sparkman I have my sensor running at 3.3V

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                        • alexsh1A alexsh1

                          Absolutely delighted with the module I have received today by post. The weather is sh@t tonight (lightning, rain etc.) which means that I can test it:

                          Welcome to the MOD-1016 (AS3935) Lightning Sensor test sketch!
                          TUNE	IN/OUT	NOISEFLOOR
                          6	10010	5
                          
                          after interrupt
                          DISTURBER DETECTED
                          DISTURBER DETECTED
                          DISTURBER DETECTED
                          DISTURBER DETECTED
                          DISTURBER DETECTED
                          LIGHTNING DETECTED
                          Lightning ~27km away
                          
                          DISTURBER DETECTED
                          DISTURBER DETECTED
                          LIGHTNING DETECTED
                          Lightning ~17km away
                          
                          DISTURBER DETECTED
                          LIGHTNING DETECTED
                          Lightning ~10km away
                          

                          I calibrated the sensor and put a reasonable "noise floor". Now I have to convert it into MySensors and hook up to the ceech board outside.

                          @Sparkman I have my sensor running at 3.3V

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                          alexsh1
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #38

                          BTW, I am not sure the sensor is similar to what you guys have.

                          0_1466633381738_2016-06-22 09.54.18.jpg

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                          • alexsh1A alexsh1

                            BTW, I am not sure the sensor is similar to what you guys have.

                            0_1466633381738_2016-06-22 09.54.18.jpg

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                            Sparkman
                            Hero Member
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #39

                            @alexsh1 It looks to be a different breakout board, but for the same chip. So I would expect them to work basically the same.

                            Cheers
                            Al

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                              @alexsh1 It looks to be a different breakout board, but for the same chip. So I would expect them to work basically the same.

                              Cheers
                              Al

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                              alexsh1
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                              #40

                              @Sparkman it is a different board made (or designed) by a UK company.

                              We are having a real British summer over here :-)))

                              LIGHTNING DETECTED
                              Lightning ~20km away
                              
                              LIGHTNING DETECTED
                              Lightning ~20km away
                              
                              LIGHTNING DETECTED
                              Lightning ~6km away
                              
                              LIGHTNING DETECTED
                              Lightning ~6km away
                              
                              LIGHTNING DETECTED
                              Lightning ~6km away
                              
                              LIGHTNING DETECTED
                              Lightning ~6km away
                              
                              LIGHTNING DETECTED
                              Lightning ~6km away
                              
                              LIGHTNING DETECTED
                              Lightning ~5km away
                              
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                              • alexsh1A alexsh1

                                @Sparkman it is a different board made (or designed) by a UK company.

                                We are having a real British summer over here :-)))

                                LIGHTNING DETECTED
                                Lightning ~20km away
                                
                                LIGHTNING DETECTED
                                Lightning ~20km away
                                
                                LIGHTNING DETECTED
                                Lightning ~6km away
                                
                                LIGHTNING DETECTED
                                Lightning ~6km away
                                
                                LIGHTNING DETECTED
                                Lightning ~6km away
                                
                                LIGHTNING DETECTED
                                Lightning ~6km away
                                
                                LIGHTNING DETECTED
                                Lightning ~6km away
                                
                                LIGHTNING DETECTED
                                Lightning ~5km away
                                
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                                NeverDie
                                Hero Member
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #41

                                @alexsh1
                                There doesn't appear to be audio input to this board, nor a microphone on the board. So, how does it estimate the distance to the lightening?

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                                  @alexsh1
                                  There doesn't appear to be audio input to this board, nor a microphone on the board. So, how does it estimate the distance to the lightening?

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                                  Sparkman
                                  Hero Member
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #42

                                  @NeverDie All these breakout boards are based on this chip: http://ams.com/eng/Products/Wireless-Connectivity/Wireless-Sensor-Connectivity/AS3935. They use a proprietary method to figure out distance and is not based on sound.

                                  Cheers
                                  Al

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                                    @NeverDie All these breakout boards are based on this chip: http://ams.com/eng/Products/Wireless-Connectivity/Wireless-Sensor-Connectivity/AS3935. They use a proprietary method to figure out distance and is not based on sound.

                                    Cheers
                                    Al

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                                    @Sparkman said:

                                    @NeverDie All these breakout boards are based on this chip: http://ams.com/eng/Products/Wireless-Connectivity/Wireless-Sensor-Connectivity/AS3935. They use a proprietary method to figure out distance and is not based on sound.

                                    Cheers
                                    Al

                                    Any impression yet as to how accurate its distance estimates are?

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                                    • NeverDieN NeverDie

                                      @Sparkman said:

                                      @NeverDie All these breakout boards are based on this chip: http://ams.com/eng/Products/Wireless-Connectivity/Wireless-Sensor-Connectivity/AS3935. They use a proprietary method to figure out distance and is not based on sound.

                                      Cheers
                                      Al

                                      Any impression yet as to how accurate its distance estimates are?

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                                      Sparkman
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                                      @NeverDie No, as we've had very little lightning since I started using it.

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                                      • NeverDieN NeverDie

                                        @Sparkman said:

                                        @NeverDie All these breakout boards are based on this chip: http://ams.com/eng/Products/Wireless-Connectivity/Wireless-Sensor-Connectivity/AS3935. They use a proprietary method to figure out distance and is not based on sound.

                                        Cheers
                                        Al

                                        Any impression yet as to how accurate its distance estimates are?

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                                        @NeverDie Al, was quicker replying to your question. :-)
                                        yes, I think it is accurate for my needs - if a lightning detected at, say, 10km+/- 1km this is ok. How accurate do you want it to be?

                                        This is a great technology

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                                        • alexsh1A alexsh1

                                          @NeverDie Al, was quicker replying to your question. :-)
                                          yes, I think it is accurate for my needs - if a lightning detected at, say, 10km+/- 1km this is ok. How accurate do you want it to be?

                                          This is a great technology

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                                          @alexsh1 said:

                                          @NeverDie Al, was quicker replying to your question. :-)
                                          How accurate do you want it to be?

                                          I'm not sure, but more accurate than lightningmaps.com or it's a no-go. I've played with lightningmaps.com during a few thunderstorms, and although it's great for getting a general idea of lightning strike rate and density, I was surprised that it seems to miss a lot of detections entirely that both my eyes and ears have confirmed. e.g. some strikes that were big enough to rattle the windows didn't show up at all on lightningmaps. Some of the others were detected, but the map plot of the strike was wrong by maybe 10 miles or so.

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