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  • electrikE electrik

    @monte Thanks. I didn't notice it was not a Nordic one. So if I take such module, I just have to figure out the pins to program and it can be re-used.
    Did you or someone else ever tried this?

    https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/4000389437486.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.454562f4dPgTnm&algo_pvid=453cb8be-1c2a-43ea-a56c-61bbbf3a4822&algo_expid=453cb8be-1c2a-43ea-a56c-61bbbf3a4822-26&btsid=2100bdf116156431118194203efa5d&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_

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    nagelc
    wrote on last edited by nagelc
    #69

    Hi @electrik

    You can program these ibeacons to work with MySensors.
    I reprogrammed one by soldering some wires to a jlink adapter. Not elegant, but it worked.
    Some type of push pin setup would be good if you are going to actually use these modules.

    e38e65ec-0a12-4625-b48c-a16a312f33a0-image.png

    The version I got had only a button on the board, and no way to easily add any other sensors, so they weren't very useful. It would be interesting to try the ones with the temperature and acceleromator.

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      abelson
      wrote on last edited by
      #70

      I am using a generic nRF52 dev board with the Arduino nRF52 core. I am trying to get a sample BLE service to display, but it cannot find it on my BLE scanner. After I couldn't get that to work, I decided to make the code even simpler. Since the dev board that I am using has a serial USB out I thought I would just check if I could get a "Hello World!" to the serial monitor... After flashing the soft device, I still couldn't get any output on my serial monitor.

      Open On-Chip Debugger 0.10.0-dev-00254-g696fc0a (2016-04-10-10:13)
      Licensed under GNU GPL v2
      For bug reports, read
      	http://openocd.org/doc/doxygen/bugs.html
      debug_level: 0
      0x4000
      adapter speed: 10000 kHz
      nrf52.cpu: target state: halted
      target halted due to debug-request, current mode: Thread 
      xPSR: 0x61000000 pc: 0x0001b08e msp: 0x20001188
      nrf52.cpu: target state: halted
      target halted due to debug-request, current mode: Thread 
      xPSR: 0x01000000 pc: 0xfffffffe msp: 0xfffffffc
      ** Programming Started **
      auto erase enabled
      nrf52.cpu: target state: halted
      target halted due to breakpoint, current mode: Thread 
      xPSR: 0x61000000 pc: 0x2000001e msp: 0xfffffffc
      wrote 114688 bytes from file C:\Users\Admin\Documents\ArduinoData\packages\sandeepmistry\hardware\nRF5\0.7.0/cores/nRF5/SDK/components/softdevice/s132/hex/s132_nrf52_2.0.1_softdevice.hex in 2.559271s (43.762 KiB/s)
      ** Programming Finished **
      ** Verify Started **
      nrf52.cpu: target state: halted
      target halted due to breakpoint, current mode: Thread 
      xPSR: 0x61000000 pc: 0x2000002e msp: 0xfffffffc
      nrf52.cpu: target state: halted
      target halted due to breakpoint, current mode: Thread 
      xPSR: 0x61000000 pc: 0x2000002e msp: 0xfffffffc
      verified 110636 bytes in 0.372659s (289.924 KiB/s)
      ** Verified OK **
      ** Resetting Target **
      shutdown command invoked
      

      I am using OpenOCD and an ST-Link v2 to upload my code and it looks like it is uploading successfully. Here is the output when I try to flash the S132 soft device:

      void setup() {
        Serial.begin(9600);
        Serial.println("Starting...");
      
      }
      
      void loop() {
        Serial.println("Hello World!");
        delay(1000);
      
      }
      

      I also tried running this code with the MySensors library:

      #define MY_RADIO_NRF5_ESB
      #include <MySensors.h>
      
      void setup() {
        Serial.begin(9600);
        Serial.println("Starting");
      }
      
      void loop() {
        Serial.println("Hello World!");
        delay(3000);
      }
      

      And got this error:

      In file included from C:\Users\Admin\Documents\ArduinoData\packages\sandeepmistry\hardware\nRF5\0.7.0\cores\nRF5/Arduino.h:5:0,
                       from sketch\MyBoardNRF5.ino.cpp:1:
      c:\users\admin\documents\arduinodata\packages\sandeepmistry\tools\gcc-arm-none-eabi\5_2-2015q4\lib\gcc\arm-none-eabi\5.2.1\include\stdint.h:9:26: fatal error: stdint.h: No such file or directory
      compilation terminated.
      exit status 1
      Error compiling for board MyBoardNRF5 nRF52832.
      Error while flashing SoftDevice.
      java.io.FileNotFoundException: C:\Users\Admin\Documents\ArduinoData\packages\MySensors\hardware\nRF5\0.3.0\softdevices.txt (The system cannot find the file specified)
      
      
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      • A abelson

        I am using a generic nRF52 dev board with the Arduino nRF52 core. I am trying to get a sample BLE service to display, but it cannot find it on my BLE scanner. After I couldn't get that to work, I decided to make the code even simpler. Since the dev board that I am using has a serial USB out I thought I would just check if I could get a "Hello World!" to the serial monitor... After flashing the soft device, I still couldn't get any output on my serial monitor.

        Open On-Chip Debugger 0.10.0-dev-00254-g696fc0a (2016-04-10-10:13)
        Licensed under GNU GPL v2
        For bug reports, read
        	http://openocd.org/doc/doxygen/bugs.html
        debug_level: 0
        0x4000
        adapter speed: 10000 kHz
        nrf52.cpu: target state: halted
        target halted due to debug-request, current mode: Thread 
        xPSR: 0x61000000 pc: 0x0001b08e msp: 0x20001188
        nrf52.cpu: target state: halted
        target halted due to debug-request, current mode: Thread 
        xPSR: 0x01000000 pc: 0xfffffffe msp: 0xfffffffc
        ** Programming Started **
        auto erase enabled
        nrf52.cpu: target state: halted
        target halted due to breakpoint, current mode: Thread 
        xPSR: 0x61000000 pc: 0x2000001e msp: 0xfffffffc
        wrote 114688 bytes from file C:\Users\Admin\Documents\ArduinoData\packages\sandeepmistry\hardware\nRF5\0.7.0/cores/nRF5/SDK/components/softdevice/s132/hex/s132_nrf52_2.0.1_softdevice.hex in 2.559271s (43.762 KiB/s)
        ** Programming Finished **
        ** Verify Started **
        nrf52.cpu: target state: halted
        target halted due to breakpoint, current mode: Thread 
        xPSR: 0x61000000 pc: 0x2000002e msp: 0xfffffffc
        nrf52.cpu: target state: halted
        target halted due to breakpoint, current mode: Thread 
        xPSR: 0x61000000 pc: 0x2000002e msp: 0xfffffffc
        verified 110636 bytes in 0.372659s (289.924 KiB/s)
        ** Verified OK **
        ** Resetting Target **
        shutdown command invoked
        

        I am using OpenOCD and an ST-Link v2 to upload my code and it looks like it is uploading successfully. Here is the output when I try to flash the S132 soft device:

        void setup() {
          Serial.begin(9600);
          Serial.println("Starting...");
        
        }
        
        void loop() {
          Serial.println("Hello World!");
          delay(1000);
        
        }
        

        I also tried running this code with the MySensors library:

        #define MY_RADIO_NRF5_ESB
        #include <MySensors.h>
        
        void setup() {
          Serial.begin(9600);
          Serial.println("Starting");
        }
        
        void loop() {
          Serial.println("Hello World!");
          delay(3000);
        }
        

        And got this error:

        In file included from C:\Users\Admin\Documents\ArduinoData\packages\sandeepmistry\hardware\nRF5\0.7.0\cores\nRF5/Arduino.h:5:0,
                         from sketch\MyBoardNRF5.ino.cpp:1:
        c:\users\admin\documents\arduinodata\packages\sandeepmistry\tools\gcc-arm-none-eabi\5_2-2015q4\lib\gcc\arm-none-eabi\5.2.1\include\stdint.h:9:26: fatal error: stdint.h: No such file or directory
        compilation terminated.
        exit status 1
        Error compiling for board MyBoardNRF5 nRF52832.
        Error while flashing SoftDevice.
        java.io.FileNotFoundException: C:\Users\Admin\Documents\ArduinoData\packages\MySensors\hardware\nRF5\0.3.0\softdevices.txt (The system cannot find the file specified)
        
        
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        monte
        wrote on last edited by
        #71

        @abelson first you have to flash SD and then chose softdevice in board options and flash your sketch.
        It seems that you are lacking softdevice binary. It seems that your version of sandeepmistry's NRF5 core is pretty outdated, you have 0.3 version when surrent version is 0.7. No wonder that links to softdevice binaries are broken in softdevices.txt. Try updating core to the latest version and/or downloading softevice binary from nordic's site yourself.

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        • monteM monte

          @abelson first you have to flash SD and then chose softdevice in board options and flash your sketch.
          It seems that you are lacking softdevice binary. It seems that your version of sandeepmistry's NRF5 core is pretty outdated, you have 0.3 version when surrent version is 0.7. No wonder that links to softdevice binaries are broken in softdevices.txt. Try updating core to the latest version and/or downloading softevice binary from nordic's site yourself.

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          abelson
          wrote on last edited by
          #72

          @monte that makes sense. Do you know what options I have to do to flash the sketch after I flash the soft device? If I get the above output that I posted, does that mean that the soft device flashed successfully?

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          • A abelson

            @monte that makes sense. Do you know what options I have to do to flash the sketch after I flash the soft device? If I get the above output that I posted, does that mean that the soft device flashed successfully?

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            monte
            wrote on last edited by monte
            #73

            @abelson no. You need to have softdevice binary on your PC to flash it to NRF board. Please, read my answer above and try to do, what I suggested.

            7e03227f-3d46-4665-b4d1-795dc80c3b4a-image.png

            You need to choose softdevice option if it has been flashed to the board.

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            • I idanronen

              @BearWithBeard said in GUIDE - NRF5 / NRF51 / NRF52 for beginners:

              I just got my first NRF5 running. I'll note how I got it working in case any of you guys still have troubles:

              Setup

              • OS: Windows 10
              • Programmer: STM32 Blue Pill with the Black Magic Probe firmware
              • NRF5: EByte E73-TBB dev board with a E73-2G4M0S1B (NRF52832)
              • Environment: PlatformIO

              Instructions

              Load the Black Magic Probe firmware with stlink as the probe host onto Blue Pill. You can follow this guide.

              Connect your new BMP to the NRF52 module:

              BMP NRF52 Serial Port
              3V3 3V3
              GND GND
              A5 SWDCLK GDB Server
              B14 SWDIO GBD Server
              A2 TX UART
              A3 RX UART

              Note: A2 and A3 are not required for programming. This is how you'd wire up the BMP for "classic" serial debugging. You can use the BMP both for programming and serial communication - no need for a second FTDI module.

              Using the GNU Arm Embedded Toolchain, run arm-none-eabi-gdb in a console and enter the following commands to unlock the NRF52:

              target extended-remote BMP_GDB_SERVER_PORT
              mon swdp_scan
              attach N // N = number of "Nordic nRF52 Access Port" if there are several
              mon erase_mass
              detach
              

              From the two serial ports the BMP provides, you want to use the GDB Server for BMP_GDB_SERVER_PORT above. If Windows only provides generic names for both ("USB Serial Device" or something), the one with the lower number should (usually) be the right choice. If not, try the other one.

              Windows users also must prefix the port with \\.\ if the number is double-digit, e.g. \\.\COM13.

              Now you can start uploading sketches the usual way. Here's my minimal PlatformIO config:

              [env:nrf52_dk]
              platform = nordicnrf52
              board = nrf52_dk
              board_build.variant = generic
              framework = arduino
              upload_protocol = blackmagic
              lib_deps = 
              	548 ; MySensors
              

              And a minimal test sketch for MySensors:

              #include <Arduino.h>
              
              #define LED 17
              
              #define MY_RADIO_RF24
              #define MY_RADIO_NRF5_ESB
              #define MY_NODE_ID 182
              
              #define SKETCH_NAME "NRF52 Test"
              #define SKETCH_VERSION "0.1"
              
              #include <MySensors.h>
              
              #define CHILD_ID 1
              MyMessage msg(CHILD_ID, V_VAR1);
              
              void presentation()
              {
                sendSketchInfo(SKETCH_NAME, SKETCH_VERSION);
                present(CHILD_ID, S_CUSTOM);
              }
              
              void setup()
              {
                pinMode(LED, OUTPUT);
              }
              
              void loop()
              {
                static uint8_t num;
                send(msg.set(num));
                ++num;
                
                digitalWrite(LED, HIGH);
                wait(5000);
                digitalWrite(LED, LOW);
                wait(5000);
              }
              

              Works like a charm so far! Now, if you please excuse me, I have a whole new microprocessor family to explore. Fun times!

              For the life of me i cant figure out if im making the BlackMagic properly. I'm moving the boot0 jumper to 1, flashing the 8kb maple (usb flash) DFU file using the st-link application on windows.
              I move the jumper back to 0, and connect using the micro usb, and i can flash code normally using arudino IDE using the STM32duino bootloader (and if i do so, i see the device communication on a new COM port).
              From there i cant get anything from these guides to work. the windows STM "flash demonstrator" app doesnt recognize the device, and i dont have a linux machine available at the moment for the dfu-util (and Ubuntu shell on windows wont recognize the usb device). When i try to flash the blackmagic.bin starting at 0x08002000 using the ST-link software it shows it succeeded, but when i return the jumper to 0 and reset the device, this is what i get:
              3fca00ad-a84e-477a-aaed-c70d4553adc8-image.png
              The 2 new COM ports appear (COM12,COM13), but i cant seem to flash anything successfully.
              I've installed the GNU arm toolchain for windows and tried "target extended-remote \.\COM13" (12 just gets stuck on nothing), and i get:
              f2dd9bb6-d333-41a8-b883-b3ba4a97d25f-image.png

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              wrote on last edited by
              #74
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              • BearWithBeardB BearWithBeard

                I just got my first NRF5 running. I'll note how I got it working in case any of you guys still have troubles:

                Setup

                • OS: Windows 10
                • Programmer: STM32 Blue Pill with the Black Magic Probe firmware
                • NRF5: EByte E73-TBB dev board with a E73-2G4M0S1B (NRF52832)
                • Environment: PlatformIO

                Instructions

                Load the Black Magic Probe firmware with stlink as the probe host onto Blue Pill. You can follow this guide.

                Connect your new BMP to the NRF52 module:

                BMP NRF52 Serial Port
                3V3 3V3
                GND GND
                A5 SWDCLK GDB Server
                B14 SWDIO GBD Server
                A2 RXI UART
                A3 TXO UART

                Note: A2 and A3 are not required for programming. This is how you'd wire up the BMP for "classic" serial debugging. You can use the BMP both for programming and serial communication - no need for a second FTDI module.

                Using the GNU Arm Embedded Toolchain, run arm-none-eabi-gdb in a console and enter the following commands to unlock the NRF52:

                target extended-remote BMP_GDB_SERVER_PORT
                mon swdp_scan
                attach N // N = number of "Nordic nRF52 Access Port" if there are several
                mon erase_mass
                detach
                

                From the two serial ports the BMP provides, you want to use the GDB Server for BMP_GDB_SERVER_PORT above. If Windows only provides generic names for both ("USB Serial Device" or something), the one with the lower number should (usually) be the right choice. If not, try the other one.

                Windows users also must prefix the port with \\.\ if the number is double-digit, e.g. \\.\COM13.

                Now you can start uploading sketches the usual way. Here's my minimal PlatformIO config:

                [env:nrf52_dk]
                platform = nordicnrf52
                board = nrf52_dk
                board_build.variant = generic
                framework = arduino
                upload_protocol = blackmagic
                lib_deps = 
                	548 ; MySensors
                

                And a minimal test sketch for MySensors:

                #include <Arduino.h>
                
                #define LED 17
                
                #define MY_RADIO_RF24
                #define MY_RADIO_NRF5_ESB
                #define MY_NODE_ID 182
                
                #define SKETCH_NAME "NRF52 Test"
                #define SKETCH_VERSION "0.1"
                
                #include <MySensors.h>
                
                #define CHILD_ID 1
                MyMessage msg(CHILD_ID, V_VAR1);
                
                void presentation()
                {
                  sendSketchInfo(SKETCH_NAME, SKETCH_VERSION);
                  present(CHILD_ID, S_CUSTOM);
                }
                
                void setup()
                {
                  pinMode(LED, OUTPUT);
                }
                
                void loop()
                {
                  static uint8_t num;
                  send(msg.set(num));
                  ++num;
                  
                  digitalWrite(LED, HIGH);
                  wait(5000);
                  digitalWrite(LED, LOW);
                  wait(5000);
                }
                

                Works like a charm so far! Now, if you please excuse me, I have a whole new microprocessor family to explore. Fun times!

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                electrik
                wrote on last edited by
                #75

                @BearWithBeard
                Great explanation, thanks!
                On my windows 10 installation I had to run Zadig to make the programming from platformIO work.

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                  electrik
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #76

                  @BearWithBeard
                  What did you do to get the serial pins of the Ebyte development board configured correctly, when using the generic board variant in platformIO? I've copied MyBoardNRF5.cpp but this is not used it seems.
                  Also redefining the definitions from variant.h

                  #define PIN_SERIAL_TX (11)
                  #define PIN_SERIAL_RX (12)
                  

                  doesn't give serial output.

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                  • electrikE electrik

                    @BearWithBeard
                    What did you do to get the serial pins of the Ebyte development board configured correctly, when using the generic board variant in platformIO? I've copied MyBoardNRF5.cpp but this is not used it seems.
                    Also redefining the definitions from variant.h

                    #define PIN_SERIAL_TX (11)
                    #define PIN_SERIAL_RX (12)
                    

                    doesn't give serial output.

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                    BearWithBeard
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #77

                    @electrik Yeah, I ran into that issue, too. Not sure if that's the proper way to solve it, but I add a custom board directory to the build flags in platformio.ini ...

                    build_flags = 
                    	-I $PROJECT_DIR/boards/generic
                    

                    ... and copied the board variant files from .platformio/packages/framework-arduinonordicnrf5/variants/Generic/ to boards/generic/ in my project folder. Changes made in here aren't ignored or overwritten by global PIO definitions.

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                    • BearWithBeardB BearWithBeard

                      @electrik Yeah, I ran into that issue, too. Not sure if that's the proper way to solve it, but I add a custom board directory to the build flags in platformio.ini ...

                      build_flags = 
                      	-I $PROJECT_DIR/boards/generic
                      

                      ... and copied the board variant files from .platformio/packages/framework-arduinonordicnrf5/variants/Generic/ to boards/generic/ in my project folder. Changes made in here aren't ignored or overwritten by global PIO definitions.

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                      electrik
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #78

                      @BearWithBeard Thanks that did it.
                      Could it be the TX and RX are switched on the BMP in your post?

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                      • electrikE electrik

                        @BearWithBeard Thanks that did it.
                        Could it be the TX and RX are switched on the BMP in your post?

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                        BearWithBeard
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #79

                        @electrik Good to hear. And yes, I think you are right. I'll swap them and change the naming to RXI and TXO to clarify the directionality. Thanks for the hint!

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                          Ivanli
                          Banned
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #80

                          Great post, thanks a lot for sharing.

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                            nagelc
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #81

                            With respect to initial erase of NRF52, I have been using @BearWithBeard Black Magic Probe instructions successfully for years. But, my latest set of Minew boards doesn't respond.
                            I found that there is a new lock procedure from Nordic:

                            https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/nordic/nordic-blog/b/blog/posts/working-with-the-nrf52-series-improved-approtect

                            I have tried upgrading my gdb and also J-Link EDU and nrfjprog tool chains and have not successfully connected to the new boards yet.

                            Has anyone had success with unlocking one of these new boards?

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                            • nagelcN nagelc

                              With respect to initial erase of NRF52, I have been using @BearWithBeard Black Magic Probe instructions successfully for years. But, my latest set of Minew boards doesn't respond.
                              I found that there is a new lock procedure from Nordic:

                              https://devzone.nordicsemi.com/nordic/nordic-blog/b/blog/posts/working-with-the-nrf52-series-improved-approtect

                              I have tried upgrading my gdb and also J-Link EDU and nrfjprog tool chains and have not successfully connected to the new boards yet.

                              Has anyone had success with unlocking one of these new boards?

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                              NeverDie
                              Hero Member
                              wrote on last edited by NeverDie
                              #82

                              @nagelc Sorry I don't have an informed answer, but thanks for posting and making us aware of your experience with the minew's! Haven't heard from you in a while. Have you tried upgrading the firmware on the J-link that's part of a DK? I can't say that I have, but the firmware upgradeability was one of the alleged selling features of a DK's J-Link. That potential upgradeability didn't ever seem to matter, but maybe now it does.

                              As for me, after a long break I'm back to have a run at getting the nRF52805 to work. So far I've got bare metal blinking and bare metal UART working. I'm opting for bare metal code because it's unclear how well anything else will work with the nRF52805, which doesn't seem all that well supported. Soon to get some basic bare metal proprietary radio working, I hope.... If successful, I'll post it to github to memorialize it. There are surprisingly few examples of bare metal code out there, even though that's all the datasheet itself talks about. I guess I can understand why, because I've found some surprising ambiguities in the datasheet. For instance, who would have thought that PSELTXD would refer to an actual pin number and not to a bitmask? From the datasheet I thought for sure it would be a bitmask (like nearly everything else in the datasheet), but no, it's the actual pin number. I mean, why does the datasheet show literally every bit of a 32 bit word is relevant for specifying the pin number? On a different issue, bare metal UART doesn't work quite right without some artificial delays, even if driven by interrupt events, apparently because the actual generated baudrates aren't exactly right (something the datasheet admits). So, there's some finessing involved that you don't see when you're only working from abstracted libraries.

                              Regardless, the architecture itself remains pretty cool, and I enjoy it a lot!

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                                nagelc
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #83

                                After correcting a wiring error (duh!) I was able to erase using my J-Link Mini EDU.
                                I used Nordic's nrfjprog:
                                nrfjprog --family NRF52 --recover
                                nrfjprog --family NRF52 --recover

                                I had to run it twice to get the unlock. I think this makes sense after reading the devzone article.
                                Once unlocked, I could use my black magic probe for programming. I expect the blackmagic folks haven't had time to adapt to the new lock scheme yet.

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                                • NeverDieN NeverDie

                                  @nagelc Sorry I don't have an informed answer, but thanks for posting and making us aware of your experience with the minew's! Haven't heard from you in a while. Have you tried upgrading the firmware on the J-link that's part of a DK? I can't say that I have, but the firmware upgradeability was one of the alleged selling features of a DK's J-Link. That potential upgradeability didn't ever seem to matter, but maybe now it does.

                                  As for me, after a long break I'm back to have a run at getting the nRF52805 to work. So far I've got bare metal blinking and bare metal UART working. I'm opting for bare metal code because it's unclear how well anything else will work with the nRF52805, which doesn't seem all that well supported. Soon to get some basic bare metal proprietary radio working, I hope.... If successful, I'll post it to github to memorialize it. There are surprisingly few examples of bare metal code out there, even though that's all the datasheet itself talks about. I guess I can understand why, because I've found some surprising ambiguities in the datasheet. For instance, who would have thought that PSELTXD would refer to an actual pin number and not to a bitmask? From the datasheet I thought for sure it would be a bitmask (like nearly everything else in the datasheet), but no, it's the actual pin number. I mean, why does the datasheet show literally every bit of a 32 bit word is relevant for specifying the pin number? On a different issue, bare metal UART doesn't work quite right without some artificial delays, even if driven by interrupt events, apparently because the actual generated baudrates aren't exactly right (something the datasheet admits). So, there's some finessing involved that you don't see when you're only working from abstracted libraries.

                                  Regardless, the architecture itself remains pretty cool, and I enjoy it a lot!

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                                  @NeverDie Interesting chip for a sensor node. All the other NRF52s have way more capability than we are likely to use in a low power sensor node. The 52805 seems to have just enough. Hope you are able to make some progress.

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                                  • nagelcN nagelc

                                    After correcting a wiring error (duh!) I was able to erase using my J-Link Mini EDU.
                                    I used Nordic's nrfjprog:
                                    nrfjprog --family NRF52 --recover
                                    nrfjprog --family NRF52 --recover

                                    I had to run it twice to get the unlock. I think this makes sense after reading the devzone article.
                                    Once unlocked, I could use my black magic probe for programming. I expect the blackmagic folks haven't had time to adapt to the new lock scheme yet.

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                                    @nagelc said in GUIDE - NRF5 / NRF51 / NRF52 for beginners:

                                    After correcting a wiring error (duh!) I was able to erase using my J-Link Mini EDU.
                                    I used Nordic's nrfjprog:
                                    nrfjprog --family NRF52 --recover
                                    nrfjprog --family NRF52 --recover

                                    I had to run it twice to get the unlock. I think this makes sense after reading the devzone article.
                                    Once unlocked, I could use my black magic probe for programming. I expect the blackmagic folks haven't had time to adapt to the new lock scheme yet.

                                    For future reference, yet another way you can also erase your chip is using the "Programmer" app that you can install into "nRF Connect for Desktop" program. Just connect and press the "Erase All" button:
                                    Erase_nRF52_DK.JPG

                                    I find that I have to do this in order to unlock the chip for the first time prior to enabling the reset pin with the code:

                                      // Note: if chip has never been mass erased, then most likely PSELRESET[0] and PSELRESET[1] are both zero.
                                      // When that is the case, the chip is locked and neither can be set to 21.
                                      if (((NRF_UICR-> PSELRESET[0])==0xFFFFFFFF) && ((NRF_UICR-> PSELRESET[1])==0xFFFFFFFF)) { //if the two RESET registers were erased by a mass erase
                                        NRF_NVMC->CONFIG=1;  // Write enable the UICR
                                        //Note:  BOTH registers must be set to 21, or else PIN00.21 will not function as a RESET pin.
                                        NRF_UICR-> PSELRESET[0]= 21;  //designate pin P0.21 as the RESET pin
                                        NRF_UICR-> PSELRESET[1]= 21;  //designate pin P0.21 as the RESET pin
                                        NRF_NVMC->CONFIG=0;  // Put the UICR back into read-only mode.
                                      }
                                    
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                                      Well, I take it back. Although the above method worked for doing an "erase-all" and unlock the nRF52832 that's built into the nRF52-DK, it isn't doing anything to unlock a nRF52805 that's externally connected to an nRF52-DK. "Erase all" does seem to erase the program that on the nRF52805, but it nonetheless doesn't allow access to the reset registers NRF_UICR-> PSELRESET[0] and NRF_UICR-> PSELRESET[1]. I say that because, for instance, NRF_UICR-> PSELRESET[0] and NRF_UICR-> PSELRESET[1] are still zero after the "erase all" instead of 0xFFFFFFFF, and attempting to write them both to 21 fails.

                                      I also tried nrfjprog:
                                      nrfjprog --erase all
                                      nrfjprog --recover
                                      nrfjprog --resetpinenable
                                      nrfjprog --family NRF52 --recover
                                      nrfjprog --family UNKNOWN --recover
                                      nrfjprog --eraseuicr

                                      and after each try the nRF52805 still has the reset registers impervious to writing.

                                      Well, I see that the nRF52805 has been blessed with some kind of fancy new access port protection (APPROTECT), but reading the value of NRF_UICR->APPROTECT, it is currently at 0xFFFFFFFF, which means that APPROTECT is disabled.

                                      So, not sure what to do about this one.

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                                        For anyone who may be interested, this is what the current draw on an nRF52805 looks like when it's sleeping:

                                        3v3_nRF52805_sleep_current2.png

                                        It's about the same whether it's using DCDC mode or LDO mode when the system is sleeping in ON mode. When I first saw this plot I thought the MCU was waking up, doing something, and then falling back to sleep on what seemed like a very repeatable periodicity. I even went hunting for some part of the system that I had forgotten to turn-off that might be causing this behavior. However, when that hunt didn't turn up anything, my present theory is that this is just how the low power mode works when the system is ON but in sleep mode: it maybe is more efficient to sip current at periodic intervals than it is to run the LDO/DCDC continuously.

                                        Now that you've seen the above picture of the spikey nature in which a nRF52 module draws its sleep current, you can appreciate that using a uCurrent Gold or a Current Ranger (let alone a multimeter) to measure sleep current is likely to give an erroneously low measurement: these pulses pass by too quickly for such a meter to properly register. That's why, for instance, I began to suspect that this guy's measurements were possibly too low:
                                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sMbcyYS9os

                                        Indeed, when I hook my same sleeping module up to a current ranger, the current ranger shows 0.0ua when set in ua mode. In na mode, though, the measurements are jumping around all over the place. The point being: if that was all I had to go on, I'd probably erroneously conclude that the sleep current was something less than 1ua, whereas the PPK2 here is reporting an average 5.3ua within its measurement window.

                                        What remains unexplained is why the average current draw I measured with PPK2 while sleeping like this is so high. According to the nRF52805 datasheet, the current drawn while sleeping in system ON mode with full memory retention should be just 0.8ua.

                                        datasheet_sleep_current_nRF52805.JPG

                                        and so I'm not sure why I'm experiencing so much more than that (5.3ua in this PPK2 example), unless maybe it's something about the Fanstel BC805M module that it's a part of which is raising the sleep current. If so, that would certainly be disappointing: I bought it precisely because the nRF52805 is supposed to have such a low sleep current compared to the other Nordic nRF52 chips that are out there.

                                        As a matter of fact, the spikey nature of the current draws led me to wonder whether maybe the PPK2 itself was perhaps not measuring the current correctly. So, to answer that, I added a 220uF bypass ceramic capacitor (i.e. between VCC and GND) near the nRF52805 module to better average out the current draw seen by the PPK2, and then I measured using the PPK2 again. Guess what? Now the PPK2 measures an average of 0.81ua, which is spot-on with what the datasheet predicted. Whew! What a relief. I find this new measurement trustworthy not only because (a) it agrees with the value predicted by the datasheet, but now also (b) both a PPK2 and a Current Ranger produce current measurements that agree with one another, and (c) by averaging out the current draw, the potential problems stemming from a highly spikey measurement are cast aside.

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                                        • NeverDieN NeverDie

                                          For anyone who may be interested, this is what the current draw on an nRF52805 looks like when it's sleeping:

                                          3v3_nRF52805_sleep_current2.png

                                          It's about the same whether it's using DCDC mode or LDO mode when the system is sleeping in ON mode. When I first saw this plot I thought the MCU was waking up, doing something, and then falling back to sleep on what seemed like a very repeatable periodicity. I even went hunting for some part of the system that I had forgotten to turn-off that might be causing this behavior. However, when that hunt didn't turn up anything, my present theory is that this is just how the low power mode works when the system is ON but in sleep mode: it maybe is more efficient to sip current at periodic intervals than it is to run the LDO/DCDC continuously.

                                          Now that you've seen the above picture of the spikey nature in which a nRF52 module draws its sleep current, you can appreciate that using a uCurrent Gold or a Current Ranger (let alone a multimeter) to measure sleep current is likely to give an erroneously low measurement: these pulses pass by too quickly for such a meter to properly register. That's why, for instance, I began to suspect that this guy's measurements were possibly too low:
                                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sMbcyYS9os

                                          Indeed, when I hook my same sleeping module up to a current ranger, the current ranger shows 0.0ua when set in ua mode. In na mode, though, the measurements are jumping around all over the place. The point being: if that was all I had to go on, I'd probably erroneously conclude that the sleep current was something less than 1ua, whereas the PPK2 here is reporting an average 5.3ua within its measurement window.

                                          What remains unexplained is why the average current draw I measured with PPK2 while sleeping like this is so high. According to the nRF52805 datasheet, the current drawn while sleeping in system ON mode with full memory retention should be just 0.8ua.

                                          datasheet_sleep_current_nRF52805.JPG

                                          and so I'm not sure why I'm experiencing so much more than that (5.3ua in this PPK2 example), unless maybe it's something about the Fanstel BC805M module that it's a part of which is raising the sleep current. If so, that would certainly be disappointing: I bought it precisely because the nRF52805 is supposed to have such a low sleep current compared to the other Nordic nRF52 chips that are out there.

                                          As a matter of fact, the spikey nature of the current draws led me to wonder whether maybe the PPK2 itself was perhaps not measuring the current correctly. So, to answer that, I added a 220uF bypass ceramic capacitor (i.e. between VCC and GND) near the nRF52805 module to better average out the current draw seen by the PPK2, and then I measured using the PPK2 again. Guess what? Now the PPK2 measures an average of 0.81ua, which is spot-on with what the datasheet predicted. Whew! What a relief. I find this new measurement trustworthy not only because (a) it agrees with the value predicted by the datasheet, but now also (b) both a PPK2 and a Current Ranger produce current measurements that agree with one another, and (c) by averaging out the current draw, the potential problems stemming from a highly spikey measurement are cast aside.

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                                          @NeverDie have you checked the radio already? How much work is needed to make it work with mysensors?

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