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What's the "best" UPS for a Raspberry Pi 3B?

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  • gohanG Offline
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    2A at 5V... if it works it looks a nice and compact solution

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    • gohanG gohan

      2A at 5V... if it works it looks a nice and compact solution

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      NeverDie
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      #26

      @gohan I notice that the silkscreen on the back of the PCB says "5v 4A output" and "3v 1A output", which would seem to contradict the seller's description of the lower amounts you quoted. On the other hand, maybe one is burst mode and the other is continuous?

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        anyway 2A is more than enough for a Raspberry

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        • Nca78N Nca78

          @neverdie I have bought the last one in your list (ugeek hat) but not set up on my pi 3 yet.

          You can get battery information through i2c and prepare for shutdown when battery is low as explained here
          http://www.raspberrypiwiki.com/index.php/Raspi_UPS_HAT_Board

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          #28

          @nca78 does this Raspi UPS HAT is able to turn rpi on when power comes back ?

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            Designed for Rpi2 & 3, Best UPS I have found is definitively UPS PIco HV3.0B HAT Stack with Battery 450 available under below link.

            http://www.pimodulescart.com/shop/item.aspx?itemid=30

            It accepts most technologies of batteries and capacities, but with supplied version is good enough to manage supply of RPI3 and HDD running domoticz at least for 1h and if not sufficient will proceed with clean shutdown and automatic restart on main supply is back.

            Nice industrial design, including user configurable Leds and button, relay and temperature monitoring with FAN control.

            I bought one 2 month ago, and I'm very happy with it.

            I have not any incentive nor interest in this product, just to highlight was quickly delivered to me, technical manual is well documented ( not chinese like) and firmware is professionally maintained with a dedicated forum also available.

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              Price is not bad compared to others, but still costs more than a pi3 😅

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              • gohanG gohan

                Price is not bad compared to others, but still costs more than a pi3 😅

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                #31

                @gohan said in What's the "best" UPS for a Raspberry Pi 3B?:

                Price is not bad compared to others, but still costs more than a pi3 😅

                The pi is mass produced. His UPS is probably produced in small batches. i.e. it's more of a specialty item, which somewhat explains the price.

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                • NeverDieN NeverDie

                  OK, I just settled on this: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NTQYUA8/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

                  $25, surge protection, no lithium, and maybe (?) I'll be able to power the Pi directly from one of the UPS usb power ports.

                  It seems ridiculous that the Pi still doesnt have a shutdown button. Presently I have to ssl to it and do a "sudo poweroff" before unplugging it. Not exactly convenient!

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                  @neverdie said in What's the "best" UPS for a Raspberry Pi 3B?:

                  OK, I just settled on this: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NTQYUA8/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

                  $25, surge protection, no lithium, and maybe (?) I'll be able to power the Pi directly from one of the UPS usb power ports.

                  It seems ridiculous that the Pi still doesnt have a shutdown button. Presently I have to ssl to it and do a "sudo poweroff" before unplugging it. Not exactly convenient!

                  I have this installed now. It turns out that the built-in USB power port is enough to power the Raspi3b running Octoprint. :)

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                    does the usb port work also when UPS is powered off?

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                    • gohanG gohan

                      does the usb port work also when UPS is powered off?

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                      @gohan If I unplug it from the wall (thereby simulating a power failure), it continues to send uninterrupted power over it's built-in USB power port, if that's what you mean. i.e. power failures don't crash the Octopi.

                      Or did you mean what happens if I switch-off the UPS and then unplug it? i.e. is there a different (longer lasting) circuit powering it's USB power port?

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                      • jamzmJ jamzm

                        Has anyone gotten their PiModules UPS PIco to work right or for very long? And is it even compatible with a Pi 3B?

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                        @jamzm I have

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                        • gohanG gohan

                          that costs more than the RPI itself :D

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                          @gohan You can hardly find a UPS HAT priced less than Euro 25. And the cheapest version of PiModules works well for me. I am not a fan of external UPS for RPi

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                          • gohanG gohan

                            anyway 2A is more than enough for a Raspberry

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                            @gohan said in What's the "best" UPS for a Raspberry Pi 3B?:

                            anyway 2A is more than enough for a Raspberry

                            No, I do not think it is enough. They recommend 2.5A PSU for the latest RPI. I have 3A power supply for RPi3B. 2A was not enough, but I must say I have a few bits and bobs attached to my RPi like camera or Z-wave USB module

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                              @gohan said in What's the "best" UPS for a Raspberry Pi 3B?:

                              Price is not bad compared to others, but still costs more than a pi3 😅

                              The pi is mass produced. His UPS is probably produced in small batches. i.e. it's more of a specialty item, which somewhat explains the price.

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                              @neverdie said in What's the "best" UPS for a Raspberry Pi 3B?:

                              @gohan said in What's the "best" UPS for a Raspberry Pi 3B?:

                              Price is not bad compared to others, but still costs more than a pi3 😅

                              The pi is mass produced. His UPS is probably produced in small batches. i.e. it's more of a specialty item, which somewhat explains the price.

                              Yes, you are spot on. It is hard to beat the RPi price. I think Pi Zero W priced at GBP 9 here in the UK - this is less expensive than some AVR platforms and yet much more powerful.
                              All UPS HATs I looked at here priced around Euro 25+. This is designed for DIY users and hence produced in much smaller quantities. Additionally, things like firmware has to be written and maintained up to date. And that is a big cost as this is not an open source.

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                                @gohan said in What's the "best" UPS for a Raspberry Pi 3B?:

                                anyway 2A is more than enough for a Raspberry

                                No, I do not think it is enough. They recommend 2.5A PSU for the latest RPI. I have 3A power supply for RPi3B. 2A was not enough, but I must say I have a few bits and bobs attached to my RPi like camera or Z-wave USB module

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                                @alexsh1 said in What's the "best" UPS for a Raspberry Pi 3B?:

                                @gohan said in What's the "best" UPS for a Raspberry Pi 3B?:

                                anyway 2A is more than enough for a Raspberry

                                No, I do not think it is enough. They recommend 2.5A PSU for the latest RPI. I have 3A power supply for RPi3B. 2A was not enough, but I must say I have a few bits and bobs attached to my RPi like camera or Z-wave USB module

                                I did extensive measurements of the current drawn from the RPI3 and you can actually run on 1A, the extra power depends on the devices you connect to it (if you count the 4USB ports it is potentially 4x0.5A = 2A, you add the 0.7A from the RPI3 itself and you end up in the 2.5/3A range)

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                                • gohanG gohan

                                  @alexsh1 said in What's the "best" UPS for a Raspberry Pi 3B?:

                                  @gohan said in What's the "best" UPS for a Raspberry Pi 3B?:

                                  anyway 2A is more than enough for a Raspberry

                                  No, I do not think it is enough. They recommend 2.5A PSU for the latest RPI. I have 3A power supply for RPi3B. 2A was not enough, but I must say I have a few bits and bobs attached to my RPi like camera or Z-wave USB module

                                  I did extensive measurements of the current drawn from the RPI3 and you can actually run on 1A, the extra power depends on the devices you connect to it (if you count the 4USB ports it is potentially 4x0.5A = 2A, you add the 0.7A from the RPI3 itself and you end up in the 2.5/3A range)

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                                  @gohan cpu- load ?

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                                    0.7A at full CPU load, while in idle it is about 0.2/0.25A

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                                    • gohanG gohan

                                      @alexsh1 said in What's the "best" UPS for a Raspberry Pi 3B?:

                                      @gohan said in What's the "best" UPS for a Raspberry Pi 3B?:

                                      anyway 2A is more than enough for a Raspberry

                                      No, I do not think it is enough. They recommend 2.5A PSU for the latest RPI. I have 3A power supply for RPi3B. 2A was not enough, but I must say I have a few bits and bobs attached to my RPi like camera or Z-wave USB module

                                      I did extensive measurements of the current drawn from the RPI3 and you can actually run on 1A, the extra power depends on the devices you connect to it (if you count the 4USB ports it is potentially 4x0.5A = 2A, you add the 0.7A from the RPI3 itself and you end up in the 2.5/3A range)

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                                      @gohan I did the same thing too. Only for my set-up. I am not interesting powering a bare RPi. 2.5A is not enough in my case - I am using 3A PSU. I suppose this is due to 20x4 screen I am running from the RPi together with other peripherals.

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                                      • alexsh1A alexsh1

                                        @gohan I did the same thing too. Only for my set-up. I am not interesting powering a bare RPi. 2.5A is not enough in my case - I am using 3A PSU. I suppose this is due to 20x4 screen I am running from the RPi together with other peripherals.

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                                        @alexsh1 Which power supply are you using to supply the 3A?

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                                          I tested the UPS PIco HV3.0B HAT Stack. On Rpi 1B and 3B. And it works perfectly :) maybe installation of the software is not very easy and the documentation is not very clear but i think it is worth the effort. And I got it for half the price of rpi3. Another +1 is that it has additional 3.3V ldo that can supply 150mA, should be sufficient to power the nrf24l01+ pa/lna module :)

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