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    iteafreely
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    #468

    As information for everyone, I suggest that if you get sockets for the ATMEGA, that you get
    these: alt text
    rather than these: alt text

    The reason being that the former have a much wider gap in the middle than the later. Because of that, the .1 puff #104 monolithic multilayer 5.08mm pitch capacitors called for in the BOM fit nicely. If you use the later ones, you will need to remove material from the socket to fit them.

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      iteafreely
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      #469

      I just made a new case for a LiFePO4 magnetic sensor implementation of this. Thanks for the excellent work on this handy node design!
      https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3034907!

      a picture

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        #470

        With 2 mini solar panels on the sides and an harvesting circuit, you could run it indefinitely 😁

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          #471

          Good evening!

          I had a bit of a break from this forum (approx 3-4 years...) And just got back into it . I managed to put a bootloader into my 328p-pu chip

          can anyone just confirm if it is OK to use this bootloader with the version 2.0 board here.

          I understand that it should run at 8Mhz to be stable . so I assumed I could use the bootloader that comes with Arduino IDE ?

          I flashed this one onto the chip at the moment and will start to solder some of my boards soon. but would like to be sure that it is correct before I go too far =)

          ##############################################################

          atmega328bb.name=ATmega328 on a breadboard (8 MHz internal clock)

          atmega328bb.upload.tool=arduino:avrdude
          atmega328bb.upload.protocol=arduino
          atmega328bb.upload.maximum_size=30720
          atmega328bb.upload.speed=57600

          atmega328bb.bootloader.low_fuses=0xE2
          atmega328bb.bootloader.high_fuses=0xDA
          atmega328bb.bootloader.extended_fuses=0x05
          #atmega328bb.bootloader.path=arduino:atmega
          atmega328bb.bootloader.file=atmega/ATmegaBOOT_168_atmega328_pro_8MHz.hex
          atmega328bb.bootloader.unlock_bits=0x3F
          atmega328bb.bootloader.lock_bits=0x0F
          atmega328bb.bootloader.tool=arduino:avrdude

          atmega328bb.build.mcu=atmega328p
          atmega328bb.build.f_cpu=8000000L
          atmega328bb.build.core=arduino:arduino
          atmega328bb.build.variant=arduino:standard

          rPi 3 - UNO R3 - Mini - Nano - custom

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          • badmannenB badmannen

            Good evening!

            I had a bit of a break from this forum (approx 3-4 years...) And just got back into it . I managed to put a bootloader into my 328p-pu chip

            can anyone just confirm if it is OK to use this bootloader with the version 2.0 board here.

            I understand that it should run at 8Mhz to be stable . so I assumed I could use the bootloader that comes with Arduino IDE ?

            I flashed this one onto the chip at the moment and will start to solder some of my boards soon. but would like to be sure that it is correct before I go too far =)

            ##############################################################

            atmega328bb.name=ATmega328 on a breadboard (8 MHz internal clock)

            atmega328bb.upload.tool=arduino:avrdude
            atmega328bb.upload.protocol=arduino
            atmega328bb.upload.maximum_size=30720
            atmega328bb.upload.speed=57600

            atmega328bb.bootloader.low_fuses=0xE2
            atmega328bb.bootloader.high_fuses=0xDA
            atmega328bb.bootloader.extended_fuses=0x05
            #atmega328bb.bootloader.path=arduino:atmega
            atmega328bb.bootloader.file=atmega/ATmegaBOOT_168_atmega328_pro_8MHz.hex
            atmega328bb.bootloader.unlock_bits=0x3F
            atmega328bb.bootloader.lock_bits=0x0F
            atmega328bb.bootloader.tool=arduino:avrdude

            atmega328bb.build.mcu=atmega328p
            atmega328bb.build.f_cpu=8000000L
            atmega328bb.build.core=arduino:arduino
            atmega328bb.build.variant=arduino:standard

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            NeverDie
            Hero Member
            wrote on last edited by NeverDie
            #472

            @badmannen Welcome back. The good news is that there's now a mysensors bootloader, which is even better because it allows over-the-air firmware updates for the atmega328p: https://www.mysensors.org/about/fota

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              badmannen
              wrote on last edited by
              #473

              Daaaaang ... it is a good time to be alive and come back to this I see =) ... thanks a million to you guys that made that one .. that certainly makes changes a whole lot less painful!

              rPi 3 - UNO R3 - Mini - Nano - custom

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              • NeverDieN NeverDie

                @badmannen Welcome back. The good news is that there's now a mysensors bootloader, which is even better because it allows over-the-air firmware updates for the atmega328p: https://www.mysensors.org/about/fota

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                badmannen
                wrote on last edited by
                #474

                @neverdie Alright , that took me a couple of days of fighting with Arduino/Linux/windows/drivers/bootloaders etc etc etc but I got it all running with my updated gateway+repeater-node + mailbox-node. did not try the update function yet but surely it should work. just need one or two more repeater-nodes since I have way to thick cement walls here for this signal.

                rPi 3 - UNO R3 - Mini - Nano - custom

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                  badmannen
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #475

                  OK I had some fun the last couple of days and actually got something done =D !

                  Managed to update my gateway and repeater-nodes to latest version and boot-loaded all nodes and future nodes so they are FOTA enabled .

                  So far I managed to assemble 3 nodes and after a bit of swearing and soldering and de-soldering and re-soldering I got:
                  1 - DHT11 TEMP / HUM node, on Battery (Slim 2AA) - surprisingly accurate actually

                  2 - DOOR-SWITCH - on Battery (Slim 2AA) - to be used in my mailbox, got the idea from someone here in the forums, so thank you, I don´t remember who it was since I probably read a million posts by now =D

                  3 - a 220V Relay switch, with the PA LN radio, and works as repeater ( runs on a NANO )

                  just wanted to say a huge thanks to the MySensors group and all people here on the forum for helping me get started (Had a little break for a couple of years =)

                  0_1573941605467_7883601d-ee83-4cf1-a4cf-48da54912bd8.jpg

                  0_1573941554139_e0f66ec8-8ddf-4d79-9ab2-6947f0710e65.jpg

                  rPi 3 - UNO R3 - Mini - Nano - custom

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                    wrote on last edited by
                    #476

                    Let us know when you get it to FOTA update.

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                    • NeverDieN NeverDie

                      Let us know when you get it to FOTA update.

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                      badmannen
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #477

                      @neverdie
                      Just tried it by mounting an "empty" 328P in the node just with the
                      fuses set to:
                      0xE2
                      0xDA
                      0xFE

                      and with the MYSBootloader .

                      Amazing ! . worked at the first try! (this time around =D )

                      ( tried and failed a couple of times earlier, but I know I burned 0xFD instead of 0xFE so set the BOD to the wrong value, and that does not work )

                      rPi 3 - UNO R3 - Mini - Nano - custom

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                      • NeverDieN NeverDie

                        Let us know when you get it to FOTA update.

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                        badmannen
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #478

                        @neverdie Actually... I run into another problem ..

                        After I make a FOTA and upload a sketch . it runs as it should, no problem.

                        But if I try to update it again , it never tries to upload the sketch to the node.

                        The only thing I could find that was clever to do to make it work ok with a battery node was to use smartSleep();
                        which I do ... is there anything else in the code that needs to be present ?

                        rPi 3 - UNO R3 - Mini - Nano - custom

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                          wrote on last edited by
                          #479

                          Hopefully someone who knows can chime in.

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                          • NeverDieN NeverDie

                            Hopefully someone who knows can chime in.

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                            badmannen
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #480

                            @neverdie OK, that person who knows something is now ME ! =D ... RTFM ... as always , it worked strangely enough to update ONCE with some slightly wrong Fuses set... reloaded the bootloader with soem correct fuses agian .. ( hopefully alst time .. and VOILA! now it works to update the node multiple times .. yeaa.

                            rPi 3 - UNO R3 - Mini - Nano - custom

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                              Hero Member
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                              #481

                              What were the winning fuse settings that you finally settled on using? Trust me, a year from now you won't remember, and you'll be glad you posted it.

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                                badmannen
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                                #482

                                OK MY solution was actually the fuses that I said earlier . but confused myself by changing them back and forth a couple of times and downgraded Arduino to the previous version etc.

                                So the fuses for my barebone 328P are:

                                proMYSBL8.bootloader.low_fuses=0xE2
                                proMYSBL8.bootloader.high_fuses=0xDA
                                proMYSBL8.bootloader.extended_fuses=0xFE

                                the biggest issue I had was probably with ARduino IDE .. that one I enver manged to set the fuses ( I read somewhere it should.. but maybe I´m wrong) . Anyway it works when I set the fuses and upload it with AVRDUDESS.

                                (note: hello me 1 year into the future, just do what I say ! )
                                =)

                                rPi 3 - UNO R3 - Mini - Nano - custom

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                                  badmannen
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                                  #483

                                  I just add another note to myself ( And anyone else that lost their hair wondering why the bootloader was lost....)

                                  DO NOT UPLOAD SKETCH ONLY WITH USBASP ... it deletes the bootloader .
                                  yes I know it is mentioned on the foru m.. just found it .. but I mention it again...

                                  rPi 3 - UNO R3 - Mini - Nano - custom

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                                  • badmannenB badmannen

                                    I just add another note to myself ( And anyone else that lost their hair wondering why the bootloader was lost....)

                                    DO NOT UPLOAD SKETCH ONLY WITH USBASP ... it deletes the bootloader .
                                    yes I know it is mentioned on the foru m.. just found it .. but I mention it again...

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                                    badmannen
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #484

                                    @badmannen

                                    and here is a good simple explanation of the fuses
                                    http://www.martyncurrey.com/category/atmega/

                                    rPi 3 - UNO R3 - Mini - Nano - custom

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                                      NeverDie
                                      Hero Member
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                                      #485

                                      FYI: If you run the ceramic resonator at 8mhz, with the zero wake up fuse setting, you can wake the atmega328p up in less than 4usec. This is a huge power savings compared to all other options.

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                                      • NeverDieN NeverDie

                                        FYI: If you run the ceramic resonator at 8mhz, with the zero wake up fuse setting, you can wake the atmega328p up in less than 4usec. This is a huge power savings compared to all other options.

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                                        badmannen
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #486

                                        @neverdie aa thanks for the info. Might be useful for some other nodes I will do.

                                        rPi 3 - UNO R3 - Mini - Nano - custom

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                                        • badmannenB badmannen

                                          @neverdie aa thanks for the info. Might be useful for some other nodes I will do.

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                                          NeverDie
                                          Hero Member
                                          wrote on last edited by NeverDie
                                          #487

                                          @badmannen You're welcome. I even measured it on an oscope just to be sure, so I'm certain it is true.

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