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Custom made ethernet gateway based on atmega128

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  • epierreE epierre

    why not use a photon ? it is $19 and already has the wifi ?

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    #17

    @epierre cortex is a nice thing but currently not supported by Mysensors. Do you want to add the support?

    we are looking for the gateway based on ESP8266, it is just $4 board including WIFI and powerful MCU

    sense and drive

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      @axillent I'm currently supporting my scripts on both arduino and spark.io to avoid everybody reinventing the wheel. Hopefully spark.io is more a hardware provider, meaning they design and implement hardware of their own they afterward sell, or sponsor through indiegogo. They also already have a could cum IFTTT already working.

      Currently mysensors is too much linked to the vera although it is opening up. With a gateway that would be automatically wifi or wired, as you plan to do, that would change this.

      I understand the approch for a cheap board, but I guess that you would need more components in you BOM that just the ESP8266 plus some soldering on a board ? (I don't speak of this nice russian transformer ;-) but that would kill many people in between just soldering, no ?

      z-wave - Vera -> Domoticz
      rfx - Domoticz <- MyDomoAtHome <- Imperihome
      mysensors -> mysensors-gw -> Domoticz

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      • epierreE epierre

        @axillent I'm currently supporting my scripts on both arduino and spark.io to avoid everybody reinventing the wheel. Hopefully spark.io is more a hardware provider, meaning they design and implement hardware of their own they afterward sell, or sponsor through indiegogo. They also already have a could cum IFTTT already working.

        Currently mysensors is too much linked to the vera although it is opening up. With a gateway that would be automatically wifi or wired, as you plan to do, that would change this.

        I understand the approch for a cheap board, but I guess that you would need more components in you BOM that just the ESP8266 plus some soldering on a board ? (I don't speak of this nice russian transformer ;-) but that would kill many people in between just soldering, no ?

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        @epierre nice value arduino provide is that you can do nice things with low entry barrier and without soldering
        Mysensors is intend to use this value as much as possible.

        "Solder or not solder" is a personal decision and mostly subject of the fan.
        At least for me it is fan
        as for device from this topic it is not share of the schematics, it is just share of a fan)
        russian transformer is part of it (i have a german one but it is too weak for this particular application)

        as for ESP8266 - 4$ is the cost of a ready to use module. The only missing thing is radio, you will need to connect 5 wires to radio,
        your BOM is simple - ESP module, nordic module and power supply
        should be simple even without a special Mysensors board.
        I see a good potential here

        also I see a good potential on a future network topology discussed in a separate thread, I'm going to test myself an installation with multi hardware layer multi gateway MySensors network

        sense and drive

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          @axillent which is something I actually do with all deversing into domoticz (vera, mysensors, spark core, webcam), and have an uniformized access through imperihome.

          I'm very interrested about the wifi capacity if we cannot achieve some level of security within rf24.

          z-wave - Vera -> Domoticz
          rfx - Domoticz <- MyDomoAtHome <- Imperihome
          mysensors -> mysensors-gw -> Domoticz

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            I got an idea to improve my gateway by adding 433MHz receiver
            I'm succeeded by adding it into the same dimension

            As discussed with @hek it will be other version of EthernetGateway sketch able to handle both NRF24 and RF433 reciever

            Just a small change to schematic
            MySensors.GW.atmega128-01 combined schema.jpeg

            sense and drive

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            • epierreE epierre

              @axillent which is something I actually do with all deversing into domoticz (vera, mysensors, spark core, webcam), and have an uniformized access through imperihome.

              I'm very interrested about the wifi capacity if we cannot achieve some level of security within rf24.

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              @epierre About security within rf24 we are close. I have implemented and verified HMAC-SHA256 signing. I just need some more time to implement support for a pure software-alternative to the ATSHA204 as well and my "offering" will be complete. Check the security thread (I will post my update there once finished).

              Do you feel secure today? No? Start requiring some signatures and feel better tomorrow ;)

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                @Anticimex This is good news, that would make us a bit safer... next step will be two ways SSL encryption ;-)

                z-wave - Vera -> Domoticz
                rfx - Domoticz <- MyDomoAtHome <- Imperihome
                mysensors -> mysensors-gw -> Domoticz

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                • epierreE epierre

                  @Anticimex This is good news, that would make us a bit safer... next step will be two ways SSL encryption ;-)

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                  @epierre ha! Well, whoever wants encryption, feel free to do it :) I see no need so I'm skipping that though. I am fine with somebody potentially reading the sensor values and instructions I transmit. What concerns me is if somebody could fool my system and inject their own commands. But with my signing, I challenge anybody to try ;) (and I publish full sources)

                  Do you feel secure today? No? Start requiring some signatures and feel better tomorrow ;)

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                    I made a version with RF433 receiver, I'm able to fit it into the same size PCB & same size box

                    will work on the new code to support RF433 sensors. The idea is to use ID=254 for the single node which will holds all RF433 sensors as it's children. I will need to manage a special inclusion for RF433 sensors. I have two buttons and 3 leds. This probably will be used to select & indicate sensor type during inclusion. Sensor type and child ID will be stored in gateway EEPROM. For the controller sensors will behave as regular motions / fire / door / water leakage / etc. sensors

                    I have all this sensors connected to simple GSM alarm system. The advantage to connect the, to mysensors is a reuse. All sensors will be working simultaneously with alarm and mysensors

                    IMG_2145.JPG

                    sense and drive

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                    • axillentA axillent

                      I made a version with RF433 receiver, I'm able to fit it into the same size PCB & same size box

                      will work on the new code to support RF433 sensors. The idea is to use ID=254 for the single node which will holds all RF433 sensors as it's children. I will need to manage a special inclusion for RF433 sensors. I have two buttons and 3 leds. This probably will be used to select & indicate sensor type during inclusion. Sensor type and child ID will be stored in gateway EEPROM. For the controller sensors will behave as regular motions / fire / door / water leakage / etc. sensors

                      I have all this sensors connected to simple GSM alarm system. The advantage to connect the, to mysensors is a reuse. All sensors will be working simultaneously with alarm and mysensors

                      IMG_2145.JPG

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                      @axillent Were did you get those screw inserts?

                      RJ_Make

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                      • RJ_MakeR RJ_Make

                        @axillent Were did you get those screw inserts?

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                        @ServiceXp said:

                        @axillent Were did you get those screw inserts?

                        all were purchased on aliexpress
                        IMG_2147.JPG

                        sense and drive

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                        • axillentA axillent

                          @ServiceXp said:

                          @axillent Were did you get those screw inserts?

                          all were purchased on aliexpress
                          IMG_2147.JPG

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                          @axillent Would you happen to have links?

                          RJ_Make

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                          • RJ_MakeR RJ_Make

                            @axillent Would you happen to have links?

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                            @ServiceXp sure

                            M3 & M2

                            http://ru.aliexpress.com/item/M3-x-10-Insert-round-nuts-Brass-Rohs-PASS-1000-pieces/745448307.html?recommendVersion=1
                            http://ru.aliexpress.com/item/M2-x-3-5-x-5-Insert-round-nuts-Brass-Rohs-PASS-1000-pieces/745540578.html?recommendVersion=1

                            sense and drive

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                            • axillentA axillent

                              @ServiceXp sure

                              M3 & M2

                              http://ru.aliexpress.com/item/M3-x-10-Insert-round-nuts-Brass-Rohs-PASS-1000-pieces/745448307.html?recommendVersion=1
                              http://ru.aliexpress.com/item/M2-x-3-5-x-5-Insert-round-nuts-Brass-Rohs-PASS-1000-pieces/745540578.html?recommendVersion=1

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                              @axillent Thanks..

                              RJ_Make

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                                hey axillent,

                                Could you upload the source code of your gateway?
                                You use another slave that?(Type of This gateway send a RF to anther module and control de lamp?)
                                If Yes could you post the schema and de souce code?
                                Thx

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                                • D DanielD

                                  hey axillent,

                                  Could you upload the source code of your gateway?
                                  You use another slave that?(Type of This gateway send a RF to anther module and control de lamp?)
                                  If Yes could you post the schema and de souce code?
                                  Thx

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                                  @DanielD sorry, did not get your question
                                  my gateways are using standard ethernet gateway sketch

                                  sense and drive

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                                    Hmm, you use the ethernet gateway sketch:),

                                    Okay,I will do the question again, because it was a bit confusing.

                                    This getway control another things? For exemple "Smart Plug" Module?
                                    If yes, how you control this Plug?

                                    Thx

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                                    • D DanielD

                                      Hmm, you use the ethernet gateway sketch:),

                                      Okay,I will do the question again, because it was a bit confusing.

                                      This getway control another things? For exemple "Smart Plug" Module?
                                      If yes, how you control this Plug?

                                      Thx

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                                      @DanielD my gateways are not doing other things for now

                                      i have two issues with my gateways 1. it is hard to manage multi-gateway network, you need to use hardcode 2. NRF24 is not the single network I plan to integrate to mysensors

                                      there is an idea to redo class structure of the MS library to create a simple way of embedding drivers other than NRF24
                                      as soon as this will be developed we can do a new driver for RF433

                                      the idea on how to integrate RF433 is simple, bud without class restructuring it will be a deep hardcode

                                      sense and drive

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                                        Okay, I understand
                                        Sorry my silliness, but what do you mean hardcore 2?
                                        I will do this sketch today(Ethernet Getway), but my big problem will do sync the getway to this sensor(Plug) or another sensor and control via web/cellphone
                                        :/

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