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  • elisavetgrigE Offline
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    wrote on last edited by
    #36

    OK... So I need only one resister... I think that "Scheme 2" is closer to the solution... images ofs.jpg

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    • 5546dug5 Offline
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      #37

      @epierre how is the gold plating holding out on the sensor?
      Is there pitting and would you'd recommend this over the style in the store?
      How is the battery life with this setup?

      Thanks

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      • epierreE Offline
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        #38

        Hello,

        gold plating is a must have for outdoor.

        I am now regarding to have something more robust in time , I'm waiting for a light with movement with solar pannel to modify it for it.

        z-wave - Vera -> Domoticz
        rfx - Domoticz <- MyDomoAtHome <- Imperihome
        mysensors -> mysensors-gw -> Domoticz

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        • AWIA Offline
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          wrote on last edited by AWI
          #39

          In the case described there is a constant battery drain when there is "wetness" (moisture) on the sensor. This also implies an electrolytic process which takes care of eroding your sensor. No matter if you use gold plating or not.

          electrolysis.jpg

          To avoid both you can supply the sensor during measurement only -and- reverse te polarity each time.

          An example ketch which takes care of measuring three moisture sensors which relies on this principle.

          (the actual measurement is in the "ReadMoistureValues()" routine)

          /*
           PROJECT: MySensors / Floor moisture sensor - measures moisture
           PROGRAMMER: AWI
           DATE: june 7, 2015/ last update: june 9, 2015
           FILE: AWI_FloorMoisture.ino
           LICENSE: Public domain
          
           Hardware: tbd .- ATmega328p board w/ NRF24l01
          	and MySensors 1.4
          
          	(later: Temp & Humidity - HTU21)
          	
          	
          Special:
          	program with Arduino Pro 3.3V 8Mhz
          	
          SUMMARY:
          	Moisture by analog read a polarity switching voltage divider between (high/ low)
           Remarks:
          	Fixed node-id
          */
          
          #include <SPI.h>
          #include <MySensor.h>
          #include <Wire.h> 								// I2C
          
          #define batteryVoltagePin A0
          #define MoistureHighPin 3
          #define MoistureLowPin 4
          #define Moisture1ReadPin A1
          #define Moisture2ReadPin A2
          #define Moisture3ReadPin A3
          #define BuzzerPin 5
          #define LedPin 6
          
          // MySensors Child ID's
          #define MOISTURE1_CHILD_ID 5					// Moisture 1
          #define MOISTURE2_CHILD_ID 6					// Moisture 2
          #define MOISTURE3_CHILD_ID 7					// Moisture 3
          // #define MOISTURE4_CHILD_ID 8					// Moisture 4
          
          // MySensors messages 
          MyMessage moisturePercentageMsg1(MOISTURE1_CHILD_ID, V_HUM);	// Percentage
          MyMessage moisturePercentageMsg2(MOISTURE2_CHILD_ID, V_HUM);	// Percentage
          MyMessage moisturePercentageMsg3(MOISTURE3_CHILD_ID, V_HUM);	// Percentage
          
          // MySensors instantiate 
          MySensor gw(9,10); 								// board, 3.3v (pin default 9,10)
          
          // Reference values for ADC and Battery measurements
          const float VccMin        = 1.0*3.5;    // Minimum expected Vcc level, in Volts. Example for 1 rechargeable lithium-ion.
          const float VccMax        = 1.0*4.2;    // Maximum expected Vcc level, in Volts. 
          float VccReference = 3.3 ;				// voltage reference for measurement (=vcc)
          unsigned long SLEEP_TIME = 60000;  		//  10 sec sleep time between reads (seconds * 1000 milliseconds)
          
          // **** class for Moisture measurement *****
          // attaches an analog input to a data structure for measurements
          // 			measures % of full scale voltage and scales the range of actual values
          // 			stores current/ min & max values for the sensor
          class MoistureSense
          {
          public:
          	// Create an instance of MoistureSense and initialize (digital & input pin and reference values)
            MoistureSense(uint8_t ReadPin, int LowValue, int HighValue) ; 		// attach to pin and init
            void ReadHigh();								// Read moisture if positive
            void ReadLow();								// Read moisture with polarity inverted
            // average the low/ high readings ang get the moisture percent value
            uint8_t MoisturePercent();
            void ResetMinMax();							// reset min & max values
          
          protected:
            uint8_t _ReadPin ; 							// Hardware Analog Pin number
            int _CurMoisture, _MaxMoisture, _MinMoisture, _Low, _High, _HighValue, _LowValue ;
            uint8_t _curState; 
            };
          
          // to create an instance of MoistureSense and initialize (input pin and reference values)
          MoistureSense::MoistureSense(uint8_t ReadPin, int LowValue, int HighValue) {		// attach to pins and init
          	_ReadPin = ReadPin;
          	_LowValue = LowValue;
          	_HighValue = HighValue;
          	_CurMoisture = _MaxMoisture = _MinMoisture = NULL ;	// min & max in percent
            }
          void MoistureSense::ReadHigh()
           // Read moisture with high polarity (in relation to Gnd)
          {
          	_High = analogRead(_ReadPin);
          }
          void MoistureSense::ReadLow()
           // Read moisture with low polarity (in relation to Vcc)
          {
          	_Low = 1024 - analogRead(_ReadPin);
          }
          void MoistureSense::ResetMinMax()
           // Reset min & max values
          {
          	_MinMoisture = _MaxMoisture = _CurMoisture;
          }
          uint8_t MoistureSense::MoisturePercent()
          // average the low/ high readings ang get the moisture percent value
          {
          	uint8_t reading = constrain(map((_Low + _High)/2, _LowValue, _HighValue, 0, 100),0,100);	// average map to the 0-100% range
          	_MinMoisture = min(reading, _MinMoisture);	// set min and max values
          	_MaxMoisture = max(reading, _MaxMoisture);
          }
          
          // Instantiate moisture sensor objects
          MoistureSense Moisture1(Moisture1ReadPin, 0, 1024); 
          MoistureSense Moisture2(Moisture2ReadPin, 0, 1024); 
          MoistureSense Moisture3(Moisture3ReadPin, 0, 1024); 
          
          void setup(){
            	// MySensors setup (baud 115200)
          	gw.begin(NULL, 21);  // fixed node 21, (final: connected to repeater 3 (living))"
          	// Send the sketch version information to the gateway and Controller
          	gw.sendSketchInfo("AWI FloorMoisture 21", "1.0");
          	gw.present(MOISTURE1_CHILD_ID, S_HUM);			// Present Moisture sensors as humidity
          	gw.present(MOISTURE2_CHILD_ID, S_HUM);			// Present Moisture sensors as humidity
          	gw.present(MOISTURE3_CHILD_ID, S_HUM);			// Present Moisture sensors as humidity
          
          	Serial.print("AWI Moisture Started ");
          	pinMode(BuzzerPin,OUTPUT);						// Setup intermittent buzzer & light
          	pinMode(LedPin,OUTPUT);
          }
          
          void loop(){
          //
          	Serial.println("Moisture Percentages");
          	ReadMoistureValues();
          	gw.send(moisturePercentageMsg1.set(Moisture1.MoisturePercent())); // MySensors Send (V) 
          	gw.send(moisturePercentageMsg2.set(Moisture2.MoisturePercent())); // MySensors Send (V) 
          	gw.send(moisturePercentageMsg3.set(Moisture3.MoisturePercent())); // MySensors Send (V) 
          	gw.sendBatteryLevel(batteryPercentage());
          	// show local alarm if moisture > 20%
          	if ((Moisture1.MoisturePercent()>20) || (Moisture2.MoisturePercent()>20) || 
          		(Moisture3.MoisturePercent()>20) || (batteryPercentage() < 10))
          	{
          		MoistureAlarm();
          	}
          	gw.sleep(SLEEP_TIME);							// low power for sleep time
          }
          
          unsigned ReadMoistureValues()
          // read all moisturevalues
          {
          	pinMode(MoistureLowPin, OUTPUT);				// first set all pins to measurement(non floating) mode
          	pinMode(MoistureHighPin, OUTPUT);
          	digitalWrite(MoistureLowPin, LOW); 				// Set polarity on voltage divider high and read the values
          	digitalWrite(MoistureHighPin, HIGH); delayMicroseconds(100);
          	Moisture1.ReadLow(); delayMicroseconds(100);
          	Moisture2.ReadLow(); delayMicroseconds(100);
          	Moisture3.ReadLow(); delayMicroseconds(100);
          	digitalWrite(MoistureLowPin, HIGH);				// reverse polarity on voltage divider and read values
          	digitalWrite(MoistureHighPin, LOW); delayMicroseconds(100);
          	Moisture1.ReadHigh(); delayMicroseconds(100);
          	Moisture2.ReadHigh(); delayMicroseconds(100);
          	Moisture3.ReadHigh(); delayMicroseconds(100);
          	pinMode(MoistureLowPin, INPUT);					// reset pins to floating, to avoid power leakage
          	pinMode(MoistureHighPin, INPUT);
          	Serial.print("Moist1: ");
          	Serial.print(Moisture1.MoisturePercent());
          	Serial.print(" , Moist2: ");
          	Serial.print(Moisture2.MoisturePercent());
          	Serial.print(" , Moist3: ");
          	Serial.print(Moisture3.MoisturePercent());
          	Serial.println();
           }
          
          unsigned MoistureAlarm()
          // If moisturelevel to high, sound & show local alarm
          {
          	digitalWrite(MoistureLowPin, HIGH);
          	digitalWrite(MoistureHighPin, HIGH); 
          	delay(100);										// sound & light for 100ms, uses a lot of power, so no no need for power down
          	digitalWrite(MoistureLowPin, LOW);	
          	digitalWrite(MoistureHighPin, LOW);
          }
          
          // get Battery Voltage & charge current
          // assumes a balanced voltage divider on Battery and uses the Vcc as reference (3.3V in this case)
          // Parameters:
          // - VccMin = minimum battery voltage
          // - VccMax = maximum battery voltage
          // - VccReference = reference voltage for ADC
          uint8_t batteryPercentage()
          {
          	float batteryVoltage = ((float)analogRead(batteryVoltagePin)* VccReference/1024) * 2;	// actual voltage is double
          	Serial.print("Batt: ");
          	Serial.print(batteryVoltage);
          	Serial.print("V ; ");
          	return(constrain(map(batteryVoltage, VccMin, VccMax, 0, 100),0,100));	// and map to the 0-100% range
          }
          
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          • hekH Offline
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            wrote on last edited by
            #40

            This is a great idea to get less erosion!

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              epierre
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              wrote on last edited by
              #41

              @AWI your sketch has 3 sensors ? do you use a special wiring or you just get through high and low ?

              The sketch on soil humidity does this but with two pins to make kind of AC current, but it needs also some gypsum to protect the electrodes.

              . Leaf wetness is not immersed by nature hopefully ;-)

              z-wave - Vera -&gt; Domoticz
              rfx - Domoticz &lt;- MyDomoAtHome &lt;- Imperihome
              mysensors -&gt; mysensors-gw -&gt; Domoticz

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              • epierreE epierre

                @AWI your sketch has 3 sensors ? do you use a special wiring or you just get through high and low ?

                The sketch on soil humidity does this but with two pins to make kind of AC current, but it needs also some gypsum to protect the electrodes.

                . Leaf wetness is not immersed by nature hopefully ;-)

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                AWI
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                wrote on last edited by AWI
                #42

                @epierre It has 3 sensors with copper wiring. It switches the polarity of the voltage divider (1 Mohm in series with the "sensor") and measures the voltage over the sensor. Actualy it is a moisture alarm for a sensitive wooden floor.

                and I learned something today :smirk:
                "Gypsum is a soft sulfate mineral composed of calcium sulfate dihydrate, with the chemical formula CaSO4·2H2O"

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                  epierre
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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #43

                  @AWI You can call it also "Plaster of Paris" ;-)

                  When immersed you need to protect it whatever you do : http://vanderleevineyard.com/1/category/vinduino/1.html

                  z-wave - Vera -&gt; Domoticz
                  rfx - Domoticz &lt;- MyDomoAtHome &lt;- Imperihome
                  mysensors -&gt; mysensors-gw -&gt; Domoticz

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                    epierre
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                    wrote on last edited by
                    #44

                    @awi going back to you above sketch, what is your wiring ?

                    #define MoistureHighPin 3
                    #define MoistureLowPin 4
                    #define Moisture1ReadPin A1
                    #define Moisture2ReadPin A2
                    #define Moisture3ReadPin A3
                    

                    z-wave - Vera -&gt; Domoticz
                    rfx - Domoticz &lt;- MyDomoAtHome &lt;- Imperihome
                    mysensors -&gt; mysensors-gw -&gt; Domoticz

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                      wrote on last edited by epierre
                      #45

                      Hello,

                      I guess it is the same as Vinduino :

                      4533105.jpg

                      with their test code:

                      // This program tests 3 soil sensor inputs and prints bias caused by galvanic effects
                      // Copyright (C) 2015, Reinier van der Lee
                      // www.vanderleevineyard.com
                      
                      
                      // This program is free software: you can redistribute it and/or modify
                      // it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by
                      // the Free Software Foundation, either version 3 of the License, or
                      // any later version.
                      
                      // This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
                      // but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
                      // MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the
                      // GNU General Public License for more details.
                      
                      #include <math.h>       // Conversion equation from resistance to %
                      
                      
                      // Setting up format for reading 3 soil sensors
                      #define NUM_READS 10    // Number of sensor reads for filtering
                      long buffer[NUM_READS];
                      int index;
                      
                      typedef struct {        // Structure to be used in percentage and resistance values matrix to be filtered (have to be in pairs)
                        int moisture;
                        long resistance;
                      } values;
                      
                      
                      const long knownResistor = 1500;  // Constant value of known resistor in Ohms
                      
                      int supplyVoltage;                // Measured supply voltage
                      int sensorVoltage;                // Measured sensor voltage
                      
                      values valueOf[NUM_READS];        // Calculated moisture percentages and resistances to be sorted and filtered
                      
                      
                      int i;                            // Simple index variable
                      
                      
                      void setup() {
                        // initialize serial communications at 9600 bps:
                        Serial.begin(115200); 
                          
                      
                        // initialize the digital pins as an output.
                        // Pin 6,7 is for sensor 1
                        pinMode(6, OUTPUT);    
                        pinMode(7, OUTPUT); 
                       
                        
                      }
                      
                      void loop() {
                        
                       
                      
                      measure(1,6,7,1);
                      Serial.print ("\t");
                      Serial.println (average());
                      long read1 = average();
                      
                      measure(1,7,6,0);
                      Serial.print ("\t");
                      Serial.println (average());
                      long read2= average();
                      
                      long sensor1 = (read1 + read2)/2;
                      
                      Serial.print ("resistance bias =" );
                      Serial.println (read1-read2);
                      Serial.print ("sensor bias compensated value = ");
                      Serial.println (sensor1);
                      Serial.println ();
                      
                       delay (3000);
                      
                      }
                      
                      void measure (int sensor, int phase_b, int phase_a, int analog_input)
                      {
                       
                        // read sensor, filter, and calculate resistance value
                        // Noise filter: median filter
                      
                        for (i=0; i<NUM_READS; i++) {
                      
                          // Read 1 pair of voltage values
                          digitalWrite(phase_a, HIGH);                 // set the voltage supply on
                          delayMicroseconds(25);
                          supplyVoltage = analogRead(analog_input);   // read the supply voltage
                          delayMicroseconds(25);
                          digitalWrite(phase_a, LOW);                  // set the voltage supply off 
                          delay(1);
                           
                          digitalWrite(phase_b, HIGH);                 // set the voltage supply on
                          delayMicroseconds(25);
                          sensorVoltage = analogRead(analog_input);   // read the sensor voltage
                          delayMicroseconds(25);
                          digitalWrite(phase_b, LOW);                  // set the voltage supply off 
                      
                          // Calculate resistance
                          // the 0.5 add-term is used to round to the nearest integer
                          // Tip: no need to transform 0-1023 voltage value to 0-5 range, due to following fraction
                          long resistance = (knownResistor * (supplyVoltage - sensorVoltage ) / sensorVoltage)-457 ;
                          
                          delay(1); 
                          addReading(resistance);
                          Serial.print (resistance); 
                          Serial.print ("\t");
                        }
                        }
                        
                      
                      
                      // Averaging algorithm
                      void addReading(long resistance){
                        buffer[index] = resistance;
                        index++;
                        if (index >= NUM_READS) index = 0;
                      }
                      
                      long average(){
                        long sum = 0;
                        for (int i = 0; i < NUM_READS; i++){
                          sum += buffer[i];
                        }
                        return (long)(sum / NUM_READS);
                      }
                      

                      and my hall of fame and shame of sensors I've tried :

                      IMG_20150801_083113.jpg

                      z-wave - Vera -&gt; Domoticz
                      rfx - Domoticz &lt;- MyDomoAtHome &lt;- Imperihome
                      mysensors -&gt; mysensors-gw -&gt; Domoticz

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