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Possible for novice to create PCB?

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  • AnticimexA Offline
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    Anticimex
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    #5

    I second that on autorouting. It may sound like a good idea, but it rarely works out as you hope.
    Also, it is good to start of with a large board. As large as possible (given constraints like cost, boxes, mounting area etc).
    Things get tricky when space is scarce. Take my word for it ;) You can have a look at my 5x5 board which is pretty crowded.
    Another problem with crowded boards (as you see with mine) is that you usually won't be able to place components in neat rows which is also a good design practice. An example of that is @tbowmo's new gateway.

    Do you feel secure today? No? Start requiring some signatures and feel better tomorrow ;)

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    • K Offline
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      #6

      @Cliff-Karlsson Fritzing should be a good start for a beginner and as FotoFieber said - export your design as "Gerber" files (fritzing has these function on board), zip the gerber-folder and upload it to oshpark.com.

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        #7

        Eagle is much easier than it looks. I started a few ago with my first pcb. After looking one or two tutorials, i got my first successful schema. Just give it a try. One evening and a beer or glass of wine is enough to learn eagle.

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          #8

          I don't want to start another Eagle - kicad flame war here, but I would recommend kicad for the following reasons:

          • Open source. Always the safest option if you want to use open hardware licenses (some are more demanding when it comes to tools than other)
          • limitless in terms of board size, layers, number of holes, etc.
          • good MySensors support in terms of common modules and components related to MySensors networks (see tbowmo's link above) (the core team uses kicad for all new "official" boards (and quite some unofficial too))

          Do you feel secure today? No? Start requiring some signatures and feel better tomorrow ;)

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            #9

            I second on the opensource, and open hardware licenses.. I know that I can't get into any legal mumble jumble, when using kicad. And as I make use of open hardware licenses, I know that others can open / edit my files, without getting into any legal twists, due to the chosen layout program.

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              #10

              I am trying to install the Kicad Mysensors library on a windows maching but don´t get it.

              I have added

              MYSGITHUB & https://github.com/mysensors-kicad
              then it says I should

              "On Windows, KiCad does not permit free-text entry to this location. Instead you have to edit your environment variables and add a "User variable" named MYSLOCAL instead (with the appropriate value)."

              What should I do ? and are there more steps?

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                @Cliff-Karlsson

                I think it was @blacey that wrote the windows specific stuff. I haven't got a windows machine (where I am allowed to install kicad). My pc simply refuses to start with windows (BSOD). So I am unable to help you on that part.

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                • Cliff KarlssonC Cliff Karlsson

                  I am trying to install the Kicad Mysensors library on a windows maching but don´t get it.

                  I have added

                  MYSGITHUB & https://github.com/mysensors-kicad
                  then it says I should

                  "On Windows, KiCad does not permit free-text entry to this location. Instead you have to edit your environment variables and add a "User variable" named MYSLOCAL instead (with the appropriate value)."

                  What should I do ? and are there more steps?

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                  Anticimex
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                  wrote on last edited by Anticimex
                  #12

                  @Cliff-Karlsson yes, you need to add a user variable on Windows. If you are unfamiliar with this here is a link to help you out. Replace PATH with MYSLOCAL.

                  Do you feel secure today? No? Start requiring some signatures and feel better tomorrow ;)

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                  • Cliff KarlssonC Offline
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                    #13

                    Thanks but what are the "appropriate value"?

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                    • Cliff KarlssonC Cliff Karlsson

                      Thanks but what are the "appropriate value"?

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                      Anticimex
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                      @Cliff-Karlsson said:

                      Thanks but what are the "appropriate value"?

                      From the text: "The path must be named MYSLOCAL and it should point out the root of your cloned libraries."

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                        #15

                        I have tried and failed trying to add the mysensors.org items to kicad. If anyone have time I would really apricioate a step by step instruction.

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                        • Cliff KarlssonC Cliff Karlsson

                          I have tried and failed trying to add the mysensors.org items to kicad. If anyone have time I would really apricioate a step by step instruction.

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                          Anticimex
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                          #16

                          @Cliff-Karlsson can you be more specific on what information you lack? There are detailed instructions in the repos for how to set it up: https://github.com/mysensors-kicad/part_management

                          Do you feel secure today? No? Start requiring some signatures and feel better tomorrow ;)

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