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  • J jacikaas

    Hello, @GertSanders I would like to ask. How I understand it is possible to load different sketch type to this board and then I could use it like one of MySensors sketches? For example could I load MyS humidity sketch? Thanks!

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    GertSanders
    Hardware Contributor
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    #23

    @jacikaas: to program the processor, you need to remove it from the board and program it on a breadboard or another board with ftdi interface.
    But you can load a sketch like the humidity sensor sketch if you add a I2C sensor like a SI7021. I plan to do just that.

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      #24

      The very narrow boards v1-1 have arrived :-)

      0_1456950291190_IMG_7800.jpg

      0_1456950446982_IMG_7801.jpg

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        #25

        The latest member of my growing sensor family, a reedswitch sensor with wakeup from power down by change on pin 2, wakeup every 23 hours to report battery voltage, and of course a blinky light when these things happen :-)

        0_1456959867067_IMG_7804.jpg
        1_1456959867067_IMG_7805.jpg
        2_1456959867067_IMG_7807.jpg

        Just tested and found to be OK. Next board will be set up for using a I2C module (will be my smallest temperature sensor yet). Time for a glas of WestVleeteren and rest.

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          carlierd
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          #26

          Very nice !!
          I just started learning Eagles to modify your board for RFM69 compatibility. The road will be long ;)
          Could be good also to add ATSHA204A but in a second time !

          David.

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          • GertSandersG GertSanders

            The latest member of my growing sensor family, a reedswitch sensor with wakeup from power down by change on pin 2, wakeup every 23 hours to report battery voltage, and of course a blinky light when these things happen :-)

            0_1456959867067_IMG_7804.jpg
            1_1456959867067_IMG_7805.jpg
            2_1456959867067_IMG_7807.jpg

            Just tested and found to be OK. Next board will be set up for using a I2C module (will be my smallest temperature sensor yet). Time for a glas of WestVleeteren and rest.

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            #27

            @GertSanders said:

            Just tested and found to be OK. Next board will be set up for using a I2C module (will be my smallest temperature sensor yet). Time for a glas of WestVleeteren and rest.

            @GertSanders
            Westvleteren Blonde is very nice :)
            Can you please remind me the difference berwrrn v1 and 1-1?
            I think it would be good to add FTDI connection, but the space is very limited

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            • alexsh1A alexsh1

              @GertSanders said:

              Just tested and found to be OK. Next board will be set up for using a I2C module (will be my smallest temperature sensor yet). Time for a glas of WestVleeteren and rest.

              @GertSanders
              Westvleteren Blonde is very nice :)
              Can you please remind me the difference berwrrn v1 and 1-1?
              I think it would be good to add FTDI connection, but the space is very limited

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              GertSanders
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              wrote on last edited by GertSanders
              #28

              @alexsh1 FTDI would be nice to reprogram more easily, but in my case I have a stable sketch which is loaded 1 time, and then the node is deployed. No point in providing extra pins or using boardspace if it is only used once or twice.

              I saw that @AWI mentioned pogo-pins to make connections. Also a nice idea. In any case, my node is not designed to be flexible, and after programming I want to forget it. These nodes are sitting on doors and windows and need to do 1 thing only: show status of the reed-switched that are connected to them.

              But adding some pads so that pogo pins can make contact to RX, TX and !RESET would still be possible.

              It will be nice to see if a RFM69 radio can be connected by @carlierd . Looking forward to some pictures :-)

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              • alexsh1A alexsh1

                @GertSanders said:

                Just tested and found to be OK. Next board will be set up for using a I2C module (will be my smallest temperature sensor yet). Time for a glas of WestVleeteren and rest.

                @GertSanders
                Westvleteren Blonde is very nice :)
                Can you please remind me the difference berwrrn v1 and 1-1?
                I think it would be good to add FTDI connection, but the space is very limited

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                Hardware Contributor
                wrote on last edited by GertSanders
                #29

                @alexsh1

                The difference between v1-0 and V1-1:

                V1-0:
                has 4 pins connected to VCC, GND, D2, D3 (in this sequence).
                LED is connected to D8

                V1-1:
                has 4 pins, of which 2 are fixed. Vcc and GND are at the outside (closest to board edge).
                The two pins in the middle (pin1 and pin2) can be connected to two different pins each by using the solder jumper.
                pin1 can be connected to SDA/A4 or to D2
                pin2 can be connected to SCL/A5 or to GND
                LED is connected to D6

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                • GertSandersG GertSanders

                  @alexsh1 FTDI would be nice to reprogram more easily, but in my case I have a stable sketch which is loaded 1 time, and then the node is deployed. No point in providing extra pins or using boardspace if it is only used once or twice.

                  I saw that @AWI mentioned pogo-pins to make connections. Also a nice idea. In any case, my node is not designed to be flexible, and after programming I want to forget it. These nodes are sitting on doors and windows and need to do 1 thing only: show status of the reed-switched that are connected to them.

                  But adding some pads so that pogo pins can make contact to RX, TX and !RESET would still be possible.

                  It will be nice to see if a RFM69 radio can be connected by @carlierd . Looking forward to some pictures :-)

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                  AWI
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                  #30

                  @GertSanders A bit off a hassle, but I don't need pads... ;-)

                  0_1457102582398_upload-7fc04aa0-f360-48dd-b170-601e208392ee

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                  • AWIA AWI

                    @GertSanders A bit off a hassle, but I don't need pads... ;-)

                    0_1457102582398_upload-7fc04aa0-f360-48dd-b170-601e208392ee

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                    @AWI very nice, where did you buy the pins ?

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                    • GertSandersG GertSanders

                      @AWI very nice, where did you buy the pins ?

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                      @GertSanders I used these pins. These work for me but there are many other types in the same store which could serve your needs better.

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                        #33

                        @GertSanders - my idea to use exactly for windows. I was thinking about z-wave ones, but £32 a pot is just way too expensive given I need quite a few. How do you power them?

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                        • alexsh1A alexsh1

                          @GertSanders - my idea to use exactly for windows. I was thinking about z-wave ones, but £32 a pot is just way too expensive given I need quite a few. How do you power them?

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                          GertSanders
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                          wrote on last edited by
                          #34

                          @alexsh1 I power them similar to @m26872 , but with AAA batteries. They fit the 16x16mm cable guide by Legrand (which is a known brand for this in Belgium), available is most DIY stores.

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                            #35

                            Dear
                            I ordered a few...:-)
                            Do you have a working sketch that is using less power?
                            Perhaps wit a motionsensor and a DHt ore something
                            I hope i get you hardware working..

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                            • Dombo71D Dombo71

                              Dear
                              I ordered a few...:-)
                              Do you have a working sketch that is using less power?
                              Perhaps wit a motionsensor and a DHt ore something
                              I hope i get you hardware working..

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                              alexsh1
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #36

                              @Dombo71 said:

                              Dear
                              I ordered a few...:-)
                              Do you have a working sketch that is using less power?
                              Perhaps wit a motionsensor and a DHt ore something
                              I hope i get you hardware working..

                              @Dombo71
                              You can find a few working sketches in the 'Build' section of the website. However, don't you have an idea what it is exactly you'd like to build? I would be useful to know before throwing any sketch.

                              FYG DHT is by far not a favourite one for a battery use in my view. There are others - SI7120 or BME280

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                              • Dombo71D Dombo71

                                Dear
                                I ordered a few...:-)
                                Do you have a working sketch that is using less power?
                                Perhaps wit a motionsensor and a DHt ore something
                                I hope i get you hardware working..

                                GertSandersG Offline
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                                GertSanders
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                                wrote on last edited by
                                #37

                                @Dombo71
                                What do you mean with "using less power"?

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                                • Dombo71D Dombo71

                                  Dear
                                  I ordered a few...:-)
                                  Do you have a working sketch that is using less power?
                                  Perhaps wit a motionsensor and a DHt ore something
                                  I hope i get you hardware working..

                                  GertSandersG Offline
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                                  GertSanders
                                  Hardware Contributor
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #38

                                  @Dombo71
                                  Motion sensors are also not so low power and as mentioned before, DHT are power hungry. SI7021 is much better for low power/low voltage use.

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                                  • GertSandersG GertSanders

                                    @Dombo71
                                    What do you mean with "using less power"?

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                                    #39

                                    @GertSanders said:

                                    SI7021

                                    I hope i can make a 3 in 1 sensor
                                    Motion / contact.
                                    temp and humanity
                                    Better should be a multisensor, with a lot of option so we can choose .
                                    The examples on my sensor are most 1 sensor...

                                    And then work on a battery[s] for a year

                                    Thanks for the SI7021 tip..

                                    Domoticz, with a lot of working hardware, include mysensors :-)
                                    OpenPLI, RuneAudio, Solarmeter, etc......

                                    Not a great builder of software and hardware, more a user...
                                    Only i try to do my best :-(

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                                    • D Dylano

                                      @GertSanders said:

                                      SI7021

                                      I hope i can make a 3 in 1 sensor
                                      Motion / contact.
                                      temp and humanity
                                      Better should be a multisensor, with a lot of option so we can choose .
                                      The examples on my sensor are most 1 sensor...

                                      And then work on a battery[s] for a year

                                      Thanks for the SI7021 tip..

                                      GertSandersG Offline
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                                      GertSanders
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                                      wrote on last edited by GertSanders
                                      #40

                                      @Dylano

                                      This board is not meant for more then 1 function.

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                                        @Dylano Have a look at this board - this would let you program via FTDI and connect several sensors.

                                        http://forum.mysensors.org/topic/2744/battery-based-atmega328p-sensor-no-smd

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                                          @GertSanders How snug is your enclosure? I saw @m26872 used 17x20mm for his slim node, but I was able to find in the UK 16x16mm trunking, which I think maybe a little bit small.

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