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  • GertSandersG GertSanders

    @bjacobse

    Here is a 4800 baud version.

    0_1457256109633_optiboot_atmega328_X8M1_004800_B5.hex

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    #13

    @GertSanders
    Thank you for the file, however I have some troubles, I can flash via USBtiny but I am not able to upload sketch via Arduino IDE+ FTDI,
    will you check my settings are correct?

    Here is my boards.txt file for the optiboot
    ##############################################################

    pro328opti.name=BJa BOD 1,8V Optiboot, Arduino Pro Mini (3.3V, 8 MHz) w/ ATmega328

    pro328opti.upload.protocol=arduino
    pro328opti.upload.maximum_size=30720
    pro328opti.upload.speed=4800

    pro328opti.bootloader.low_fuses=0x77
    pro328opti.bootloader.high_fuses=0xDF
    pro328opti.bootloader.extended_fuses=0x06
    pro328opti.bootloader.path=optiboot
    pro328opti.bootloader.file=1457256062840-optiboot_atmega328_x8m1_004800_b5.hex
    pro328opti.bootloader.unlock_bits=0x3F
    pro328opti.bootloader.lock_bits=0x0F
    pro328opti.build.mcu=atmega328p
    pro328opti.build.f_cpu=8000000L
    pro328opti.build.core=arduino
    pro328opti.build.variant=standard

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    • bjacobseB bjacobse

      @GertSanders
      Thank you for the file, however I have some troubles, I can flash via USBtiny but I am not able to upload sketch via Arduino IDE+ FTDI,
      will you check my settings are correct?

      Here is my boards.txt file for the optiboot
      ##############################################################

      pro328opti.name=BJa BOD 1,8V Optiboot, Arduino Pro Mini (3.3V, 8 MHz) w/ ATmega328

      pro328opti.upload.protocol=arduino
      pro328opti.upload.maximum_size=30720
      pro328opti.upload.speed=4800

      pro328opti.bootloader.low_fuses=0x77
      pro328opti.bootloader.high_fuses=0xDF
      pro328opti.bootloader.extended_fuses=0x06
      pro328opti.bootloader.path=optiboot
      pro328opti.bootloader.file=1457256062840-optiboot_atmega328_x8m1_004800_b5.hex
      pro328opti.bootloader.unlock_bits=0x3F
      pro328opti.bootloader.lock_bits=0x0F
      pro328opti.build.mcu=atmega328p
      pro328opti.build.f_cpu=8000000L
      pro328opti.build.core=arduino
      pro328opti.build.variant=standard

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      GertSanders
      Hardware Contributor
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      #14

      @bjacobse

      As you use the clock divider, you should inform the Arduino IDE that the processor is running slower.

      So you need to set this:

      pro328opti.build.f_cpu=1000000L

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        #15

        Sounds like good idea :-) Thanks
        now the board.tx file is updated: pro328opti.build.f_cpu=1000000L
        restart Arduino, but still get upload errors
        Error messages:
        Binary sketch size: 1,102 bytes (of a 30,720 byte maximum)
        avrdude: stk500_recv(): programmer is not responding
        avrdude: stk500_getsync() attempt 1 of 10: not in sync: resp=0x00
        I feel it's an unlucky Sunday... Can you provide more ideas what I can do?

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        • bjacobseB bjacobse

          Sounds like good idea :-) Thanks
          now the board.tx file is updated: pro328opti.build.f_cpu=1000000L
          restart Arduino, but still get upload errors
          Error messages:
          Binary sketch size: 1,102 bytes (of a 30,720 byte maximum)
          avrdude: stk500_recv(): programmer is not responding
          avrdude: stk500_getsync() attempt 1 of 10: not in sync: resp=0x00
          I feel it's an unlucky Sunday... Can you provide more ideas what I can do?

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          GertSanders
          Hardware Contributor
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          #16

          @bjacobse

          Not sure, but an out of sync message is usually because of a mismatch in speed between what the IDE en avrdude expect, and what the cpu does.
          So I would check the fuses of the cpu to be sure. I will try this boot loader on one of my nodes to see if the boot loader itself is the problem.

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            #17

            @GertSanders I installed your compiled bootloaders - thanks for compiling them, but I cannot compile a Blink sketch using 1Mhz internal one

            Board GertSanders:avr:atmega328pO5M16c doesn't define a 'build.board' preference. Auto-set to: AVR_ATMEGA328PO5M16C
            Board GertSanders:avr:atmega328pO5M8c doesn't define a 'build.board' preference. Auto-set to: AVR_ATMEGA328PO5M8C
            Board breadboard:avr:atmega328bb doesn't define a 'build.board' preference. Auto-set to: AVR_ATMEGA328BB
            WARNING: Category '' in library UIPEthernet is not valid. Setting to 'Uncategorized'
            Build options changed, rebuilding all
            In file included from sketch\Blink.ino.cpp:1:0:
            
            C:\Program Files (x86)\Arduino\hardware\arduino\avr\cores\arduino/Arduino.h:249:26: fatal error: pins_arduino.h: No such file or directory
            
            #include "pins_arduino.h"
            
                                     ^
            
            compilation terminated.
            
            exit status 1
            Error compiling.```
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            • alexsh1A alexsh1

              @GertSanders I installed your compiled bootloaders - thanks for compiling them, but I cannot compile a Blink sketch using 1Mhz internal one

              Board GertSanders:avr:atmega328pO5M16c doesn't define a 'build.board' preference. Auto-set to: AVR_ATMEGA328PO5M16C
              Board GertSanders:avr:atmega328pO5M8c doesn't define a 'build.board' preference. Auto-set to: AVR_ATMEGA328PO5M8C
              Board breadboard:avr:atmega328bb doesn't define a 'build.board' preference. Auto-set to: AVR_ATMEGA328BB
              WARNING: Category '' in library UIPEthernet is not valid. Setting to 'Uncategorized'
              Build options changed, rebuilding all
              In file included from sketch\Blink.ino.cpp:1:0:
              
              C:\Program Files (x86)\Arduino\hardware\arduino\avr\cores\arduino/Arduino.h:249:26: fatal error: pins_arduino.h: No such file or directory
              
              #include "pins_arduino.h"
              
                                       ^
              
              compilation terminated.
              
              exit status 1
              Error compiling.```
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              wrote on last edited by GertSanders
              #18

              @alexsh1

              My boards.txt file is pointing to a location you are not using.

              You have your library in a different place then I.

              You should make sure that the directory in which you put the variant matches with what you have. I can not know which directory you put the Arduino IDE, so matching this is an exercise for you ;-)

              In my case, my variants boards is here:

              \Dropbox\Arduino\hardware\atmega328p\avr\variants\BlueBoard\pins_arduino.h

              This is matched with the fact that my boards file is here:

              \Dropbox\Arduino\hardware\atmega328p\avr\boards.txt

              Within the boards.txt file, I'm referring to the following variant: "BlueBoard". This is done here:

              BlueBoard.build.core=arduino:arduino
              BlueBoard.build.mcu=atmega328p

              BlueBoard.build.board=AVR_GERTSANDERSBLUEBOARD
              BlueBoard.build.variant=BlueBoard

              You seem to have a different path:

              C:\Program Files (x86)\Arduino\hardware\arduino\avr\cores\arduino

              I'm not sure where you added my files or boards.txt, but do not just copy it. You need to adapt your boards.txt file.

              My "hardware" directory is within the Arduino sketch directory and contains this:

              0_1457376393781_Screen Shot 2016-03-07 at 19.46.19.png

              All my boot loaders are in directory "bootloaders\myoptiboot":

              0_1457376449884_Screen Shot 2016-03-07 at 19.46.48.png

              the file pins_arduino.h is a pins layout file for a standard atmega328p (copied from the "standard" variant directory.

              If you have a pro micro with the flat atmega328p, you need to use the "eightanaloginputs" variant.

              This is what it looks like in my Arduino IDE installation directory:

              0_1457377256653_Screen Shot 2016-03-07 at 20.00.43.png

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              • GertSandersG GertSanders

                @alexsh1

                My boards.txt file is pointing to a location you are not using.

                You have your library in a different place then I.

                You should make sure that the directory in which you put the variant matches with what you have. I can not know which directory you put the Arduino IDE, so matching this is an exercise for you ;-)

                In my case, my variants boards is here:

                \Dropbox\Arduino\hardware\atmega328p\avr\variants\BlueBoard\pins_arduino.h

                This is matched with the fact that my boards file is here:

                \Dropbox\Arduino\hardware\atmega328p\avr\boards.txt

                Within the boards.txt file, I'm referring to the following variant: "BlueBoard". This is done here:

                BlueBoard.build.core=arduino:arduino
                BlueBoard.build.mcu=atmega328p

                BlueBoard.build.board=AVR_GERTSANDERSBLUEBOARD
                BlueBoard.build.variant=BlueBoard

                You seem to have a different path:

                C:\Program Files (x86)\Arduino\hardware\arduino\avr\cores\arduino

                I'm not sure where you added my files or boards.txt, but do not just copy it. You need to adapt your boards.txt file.

                My "hardware" directory is within the Arduino sketch directory and contains this:

                0_1457376393781_Screen Shot 2016-03-07 at 19.46.19.png

                All my boot loaders are in directory "bootloaders\myoptiboot":

                0_1457376449884_Screen Shot 2016-03-07 at 19.46.48.png

                the file pins_arduino.h is a pins layout file for a standard atmega328p (copied from the "standard" variant directory.

                If you have a pro micro with the flat atmega328p, you need to use the "eightanaloginputs" variant.

                This is what it looks like in my Arduino IDE installation directory:

                0_1457377256653_Screen Shot 2016-03-07 at 20.00.43.png

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                wrote on last edited by
                #19

                @GertSanders said:

                I'm not sure where you added my files or boards.txt, but do not just copy it. You need to adapt your boards.txt file.

                That's what I did - I adopted your boards.txt
                All my bootloaders are in the hardware directory (C:\Users\Alex\Documents\Arduino\hardware). The hardware directory is located together with all my sketches in the Arduino directory. Now, for whatever reason, the error is point out to the completely different location:

                C:\Program Files (x86)\Arduino\hardware\arduino\avr\cores\arduino

                C:\Program Files (x86)\Arduino\hardware\arduino\avr\cores\arduino

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                  wrote on last edited by alexsh1
                  #20

                  @GertSanders OK, I sorted it out.
                  I had to create "BlueBoard" and "standard" under "variants" and copy two corresponding files pins_arduino.h
                  At least I can compile now.

                  Will try to upload a sketch later on and see if it works.

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                    wrote on last edited by alexsh1
                    #21

                    @GertSanders Unfortunately, I was able to upload the bootloader, but was not able to upload any sketches on the breadboard:

                    avrdude: stk500_getsync() attempt 1 of 10: not in sync: resp=0x78
                    avrdude: stk500_getsync() attempt 2 of 10: not in sync: resp=0xc0
                    avrdude: stk500_getsync() attempt 3 of 10: not in sync: resp=0x78
                    

                    Not sure why - I can upload a sketch via the programmer though. Will upload Nick Gammon sketch to test the bootloader.

                    UPDATE1: Nick Gammon's sketch cannot detect the bootloader (tried 1MHz internal). Once again, I uploaded the bootloader (1Mhz internal) and the sketch via the programmer and it works, but....the serial monitor works only on 74880, despite for "1Mhz internal" boards.txt clearly says "9600":

                    BlueBoard.menu.mhz.1Mi= 1Mhz - internal - 9K6 upload speed
                    BlueBoard.menu.mhz.1Mi.bootloader.low_fuses=0xE2
                    BlueBoard.menu.mhz.1Mi.bootloader.high_fuses=0xDE
                    BlueBoard.menu.mhz.1Mi.build.f_cpu=1000000L
                    BlueBoard.menu.mhz.1Mi.upload.speed=9600
                    BlueBoard.menu.mhz.1Mi.bootloader.file=myoptiboot/optiboot_atmega328_01M_009600_B0.hex
                    

                    Additionally, I loaded the ASCIITable example sketch and it states " Serial.begin(9600);"
                    I do not understand why it works only on 74880...

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                    • alexsh1A alexsh1

                      @GertSanders Unfortunately, I was able to upload the bootloader, but was not able to upload any sketches on the breadboard:

                      avrdude: stk500_getsync() attempt 1 of 10: not in sync: resp=0x78
                      avrdude: stk500_getsync() attempt 2 of 10: not in sync: resp=0xc0
                      avrdude: stk500_getsync() attempt 3 of 10: not in sync: resp=0x78
                      

                      Not sure why - I can upload a sketch via the programmer though. Will upload Nick Gammon sketch to test the bootloader.

                      UPDATE1: Nick Gammon's sketch cannot detect the bootloader (tried 1MHz internal). Once again, I uploaded the bootloader (1Mhz internal) and the sketch via the programmer and it works, but....the serial monitor works only on 74880, despite for "1Mhz internal" boards.txt clearly says "9600":

                      BlueBoard.menu.mhz.1Mi= 1Mhz - internal - 9K6 upload speed
                      BlueBoard.menu.mhz.1Mi.bootloader.low_fuses=0xE2
                      BlueBoard.menu.mhz.1Mi.bootloader.high_fuses=0xDE
                      BlueBoard.menu.mhz.1Mi.build.f_cpu=1000000L
                      BlueBoard.menu.mhz.1Mi.upload.speed=9600
                      BlueBoard.menu.mhz.1Mi.bootloader.file=myoptiboot/optiboot_atmega328_01M_009600_B0.hex
                      

                      Additionally, I loaded the ASCIITable example sketch and it states " Serial.begin(9600);"
                      I do not understand why it works only on 74880...

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                      wrote on last edited by GertSanders
                      #22

                      @alexsh1

                      I will do some testing tonight, I have not used the 1MHz bootloader yet.

                      The instruction Serial.begin(9600) is independant of the upload.speed mentioned in the boards file. But I would expect that at 1MHz the higher serial comms speeds also give errors.

                      A possible reason for the problem, is that the fuse E2 actually means that you run the processor at 8Mhz internally, but without any clock division, while the bootloader was compiled for 1MHz. Without clock division by 8 the processor actually runs at 8Mhz (the speed of the internal oscillator), while all timing code is set for a cpu working frequency of 1Mhz. This would also explain why you can communicate at 74880 (which is close to 76800, which in turn is 8 times 9600).

                      I think the fuse should be set to both internal 8MHz oscillator AND clock division by 8. I do not know that correct value by hart, need to check that with a fuse calculator.

                      UPDATE: I think the lower fuse should be set to 0x62 instead of 0xE2.

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                        #23

                        @GertSanders

                        OK, I have come to the following fuse settings for 1Mhz internal:

                        BlueBoard.menu.mhz.1Mi.bootloader.low_fuses=0x62
                        BlueBoard.menu.mhz.1Mi.bootloader.high_fuses=0xDE
                        

                        For Optiboot, the high fuse is always 0xDE.
                        Now, a standard example sketch runs at 9600 - I have not checked if atmega328p is running at 1Mhz.

                        Still have a problem uploading a sketch on the breadboard via FTDI

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                        • alexsh1A alexsh1

                          @GertSanders

                          OK, I have come to the following fuse settings for 1Mhz internal:

                          BlueBoard.menu.mhz.1Mi.bootloader.low_fuses=0x62
                          BlueBoard.menu.mhz.1Mi.bootloader.high_fuses=0xDE
                          

                          For Optiboot, the high fuse is always 0xDE.
                          Now, a standard example sketch runs at 9600 - I have not checked if atmega328p is running at 1Mhz.

                          Still have a problem uploading a sketch on the breadboard via FTDI

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                          Hardware Contributor
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #24

                          @alexsh1

                          I will do some tests later tonight.

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                          • alexsh1A alexsh1

                            @GertSanders

                            OK, I have come to the following fuse settings for 1Mhz internal:

                            BlueBoard.menu.mhz.1Mi.bootloader.low_fuses=0x62
                            BlueBoard.menu.mhz.1Mi.bootloader.high_fuses=0xDE
                            

                            For Optiboot, the high fuse is always 0xDE.
                            Now, a standard example sketch runs at 9600 - I have not checked if atmega328p is running at 1Mhz.

                            Still have a problem uploading a sketch on the breadboard via FTDI

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                            GertSanders
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                            wrote on last edited by GertSanders
                            #25

                            @alexsh1

                            I just loaded a blink sketch at 4800 baud using FTDI and that works with the following combination:

                            Boot loader:
                            0_1457554985438_optiboot_atmega328_08M1_004800_B0.hex

                            Fuses:
                            BlueBoard.menu.mhz.1Mi48= 1Mhz - internal 8MHz DIV 8 - 4K8 upload speed
                            BlueBoard.menu.mhz.1Mi48.bootloader.low_fuses=0x62
                            BlueBoard.menu.mhz.1Mi48.bootloader.high_fuses=0xDE
                            BlueBoard.menu.mhz.1Mi48.build.f_cpu=1000000L
                            BlueBoard.menu.mhz.1Mi48.upload.speed=4800
                            BlueBoard.menu.mhz.1Mi48.bootloader.file=myoptiboot/optiboot_atmega328_08M1_004800_B0.hex

                            You will have to strip the "0_1457554985438_" part from the uploaded filename.

                            Loading the sketch is VERY slow, but it works perfectly. The Blink sketch blinks the led at 500ms on and 500ms off, and that is checked on the breadboard.

                            Whether the processor actually runs at 1MHz I do not know for sure, since I have no frequency meter (still missing from my toolbox).

                            I used an arduino as ISP to load the boot loader, and then used an FTDI interface (from Adafruit) to load the sketch while the atmega328 was plugged in a breadboard (Gammon style).

                            Next I will try with the 9600 baud version at 1Mhz.

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                            • GertSandersG GertSanders

                              @alexsh1

                              I just loaded a blink sketch at 4800 baud using FTDI and that works with the following combination:

                              Boot loader:
                              0_1457554985438_optiboot_atmega328_08M1_004800_B0.hex

                              Fuses:
                              BlueBoard.menu.mhz.1Mi48= 1Mhz - internal 8MHz DIV 8 - 4K8 upload speed
                              BlueBoard.menu.mhz.1Mi48.bootloader.low_fuses=0x62
                              BlueBoard.menu.mhz.1Mi48.bootloader.high_fuses=0xDE
                              BlueBoard.menu.mhz.1Mi48.build.f_cpu=1000000L
                              BlueBoard.menu.mhz.1Mi48.upload.speed=4800
                              BlueBoard.menu.mhz.1Mi48.bootloader.file=myoptiboot/optiboot_atmega328_08M1_004800_B0.hex

                              You will have to strip the "0_1457554985438_" part from the uploaded filename.

                              Loading the sketch is VERY slow, but it works perfectly. The Blink sketch blinks the led at 500ms on and 500ms off, and that is checked on the breadboard.

                              Whether the processor actually runs at 1MHz I do not know for sure, since I have no frequency meter (still missing from my toolbox).

                              I used an arduino as ISP to load the boot loader, and then used an FTDI interface (from Adafruit) to load the sketch while the atmega328 was plugged in a breadboard (Gammon style).

                              Next I will try with the 9600 baud version at 1Mhz.

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                              @GertSanders said:

                              Next I will try with the 9600 baud version at 1Mhz.

                              THanks
                              I'm looking forward to this - 4800 is way too slow.
                              I think the way to check the frequency is to time delay(1000); in the blink sketch...

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                                @GertSanders said:

                                Next I will try with the 9600 baud version at 1Mhz.

                                THanks
                                I'm looking forward to this - 4800 is way too slow.
                                I think the way to check the frequency is to time delay(1000); in the blink sketch...

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                                wrote on last edited by GertSanders
                                #27

                                @alexsh1

                                I just tested with the 9600 baud version at 1MHz, and the blink sketch at 250ms, 500ms and 1000ms per on/off cycle. All rock solid and as expected.

                                Here is the setup I tested the transfer with FTDI:

                                0_1457556540048_IMG_7815.jpg

                                0_1457556805834_IMG_7816.jpg

                                I used the following combination:

                                Boot loader:

                                0_1457556618255_optiboot_atmega328_01M_009600_B0.hex

                                Fuses:
                                BlueBoard.menu.mhz.1Mi= 1Mhz - internal 8MHz DIV 8 - 9K6 upload speed
                                BlueBoard.menu.mhz.1Mi.bootloader.low_fuses=0x62
                                BlueBoard.menu.mhz.1Mi.bootloader.high_fuses=0xDE
                                BlueBoard.menu.mhz.1Mi.build.f_cpu=1000000L
                                BlueBoard.menu.mhz.1Mi.upload.speed=9600
                                BlueBoard.menu.mhz.1Mi.bootloader.file=myoptiboot/optiboot_atmega328_01M_009600_B0.hex

                                Also here the "0_1457556618255_" is added by uploading on this forum, strip when downloaded.

                                Uploads were at twice the speed then before. Still slow, but acceptable.

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                                  #28

                                  @GertSanders I have the same breadboard setup, but can only read serial and cannot upload a sketch (out of sync). My settings are the same as yours as per my post earlier on today so I reckon it must be something wrong with the wiring on the breadboard since "Uploading using Programmer" works fine. Not sure what it is as I checked it a few times today.

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                                  • alexsh1A alexsh1

                                    @GertSanders I have the same breadboard setup, but can only read serial and cannot upload a sketch (out of sync). My settings are the same as yours as per my post earlier on today so I reckon it must be something wrong with the wiring on the breadboard since "Uploading using Programmer" works fine. Not sure what it is as I checked it a few times today.

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                                    wrote on last edited by GertSanders
                                    #29

                                    @alexsh1
                                    Maybe make a picture of your setup?
                                    Upload using programmer means you use another Arduino to load the sketch on the atmega328, which at the same time deletes any bootloader.
                                    I load bootloaders with an Arduino and the sketch ArduinoISP loaded on that one. Then I issue a "burn bootloader" command.
                                    To load sketches I switch to my FTDI interface and upload sketches with the same processor setting. But as said with a different interface. And I do not use "upload using programmer", but the upload button next to the compile button.

                                    Maybe I should try to make a video like Mr Pete.

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                                    • GertSandersG GertSanders

                                      @alexsh1
                                      Maybe make a picture of your setup?
                                      Upload using programmer means you use another Arduino to load the sketch on the atmega328, which at the same time deletes any bootloader.
                                      I load bootloaders with an Arduino and the sketch ArduinoISP loaded on that one. Then I issue a "burn bootloader" command.
                                      To load sketches I switch to my FTDI interface and upload sketches with the same processor setting. But as said with a different interface. And I do not use "upload using programmer", but the upload button next to the compile button.

                                      Maybe I should try to make a video like Mr Pete.

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                                      @GertSanders Yes, this is normally the way I do (burn bootloader and then upload a sketch via FTDI on the breadboard). Will post photos shortly.

                                      Are you sure "Upload using programmer" deleting the bootloader?

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                                        @GertSanders Yes, this is normally the way I do (burn bootloader and then upload a sketch via FTDI on the breadboard). Will post photos shortly.

                                        Are you sure "Upload using programmer" deleting the bootloader?

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                                        @GertSanders

                                        Are you sure "Upload using programmer" deleting the bootloader?

                                        Yes, looks like you are right - it kills the bootloader. So what's happening? I do not have any bootloader when I use this method to load up sketches?

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                                          @GertSanders

                                          Are you sure "Upload using programmer" deleting the bootloader?

                                          Yes, looks like you are right - it kills the bootloader. So what's happening? I do not have any bootloader when I use this method to load up sketches?

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                                          @alexsh1

                                          If you load a sketch with "Upload using programmer" you replace anything in flash with the sketch. Just the sketch will run on the mcu.

                                          In the very narrow node, there is no FTDI connector, so for those nodes it does not make sense to have a boot loader in flash (it does not hurt either). You couldvjust as well just load the sketch and skip the boot loader altogether.

                                          If you need the extra 512 that optiboot occupies, then "Upload using programmer" allows you to recuperate that space.

                                          So this shoudl explain why you can reed data from the Node via Serial (because the sketch is running and taking care of the serial connection), but why uploading a sketch fails, because for that you need a boot loader in flash.

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