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How to check my soldering using a multimeter

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  • Maurice KrijtenbergM Offline
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    Maurice Krijtenberg
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    #3

    Thanks for the fast reply @sundberg84

    I didn't know the capacitor was mandatory, but I've added one.

    Before I start measuring using the multimeter, I want to make sure 2) is correct. I removed the VCC/GND connection and only left the RX/TX connected (I don't have reset), but now I don't get any feedback in the monitor at all. I know my PL2303HX isn't the best USB/serial device, but it's the only I have at the moment.

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    • Maurice KrijtenbergM Maurice Krijtenberg

      Thanks for the fast reply @sundberg84

      I didn't know the capacitor was mandatory, but I've added one.

      Before I start measuring using the multimeter, I want to make sure 2) is correct. I removed the VCC/GND connection and only left the RX/TX connected (I don't have reset), but now I don't get any feedback in the monitor at all. I know my PL2303HX isn't the best USB/serial device, but it's the only I have at the moment.

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      wrote on last edited by sundberg84
      #4

      @Maurice-Krijtenberg - ok, the try adding ground as well - but dont add VCC from your USB device.

      Did you check the voltage levels? If you dont get anything it can indicate your arduino isnt getting enought power since you got it worked adding VCC from USB. Check voltage levels on the arduino as well VCC - GND. Might be a solder problem or a booster problem (Arudino is powered throught he booster).

      Soldering is an art - but if i check your pictures I would make sure that the solder is touching the pads/holes so you get a good connection. If you look at A2 in your picture this isnt good enough to make a ok connection. The solder should "sink" into the hole in the arduino.

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      • scalzS Offline
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        #5

        Hi.

        If you want to check your voltage levels, continuity etc, learn how to use your multimeter :
        https://learn.sparkfun.com/tutorials/how-to-use-a-multimeter/all

        VCC between your ftdi and your board can be removed if you power from battery depending on your circuit (follow @sundberg84 advice for this), but the GND connection is in all case mandatory or it won't work, get garbage etc.. ;)

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        • Maurice KrijtenbergM Offline
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          #6

          Again: thanks for the fast replies. Don't guys to work or something? :P

          1. Connecting the GND to the FTDI made my monitor work again
          2. Using the multimeter I see the radio gets 3.3 V, so I guess the problem is somewhere in the data pins.
          3. @scalz Thanks for the link! I was looking for something like that. I'm gonna read it and I'll return with some questions, or answers ;)
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          • Maurice KrijtenbergM Maurice Krijtenberg

            Again: thanks for the fast replies. Don't guys to work or something? :P

            1. Connecting the GND to the FTDI made my monitor work again
            2. Using the multimeter I see the radio gets 3.3 V, so I guess the problem is somewhere in the data pins.
            3. @scalz Thanks for the link! I was looking for something like that. I'm gonna read it and I'll return with some questions, or answers ;)
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            #7

            @Maurice-Krijtenberg - With that info - your conclusion is most likely true. If you are getting a good voltage but Radio Init fail - recheck every data cable connection and solderpoint.

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            • Maurice KrijtenbergM Offline
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              #8

              Finally!! I got it to work :)

              Using "Continuity mode" on my multimeter, I found out that two connections didn't work. I probably damaged my board during soldering. Using two wires I was able to get it working

              alt text

              One step closer! Thanks again @sundberg84 and @scalz

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              • Maurice KrijtenbergM Maurice Krijtenberg

                Finally!! I got it to work :)

                Using "Continuity mode" on my multimeter, I found out that two connections didn't work. I probably damaged my board during soldering. Using two wires I was able to get it working

                alt text

                One step closer! Thanks again @sundberg84 and @scalz

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                #9

                @Maurice-Krijtenberg - nice to see! Great work.
                This is why its so dangerous... you get that rush when you fix something and you need more and more... its like a drug :)
                Thanks for reporting back!

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                  #10

                  Hello, now you have read how to use your multimeter, may I suggest you check more tutorials from Spzrkfun website ? I think they have one about basics of soldering that you should watch ;)
                  Looking at the "balls" of solder on the pins of your Arduino you skipped that step which is crucial to have good working circuits.
                  And don't forget to always keep your soldering tip shiny !

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                    wrote on last edited by Maurice Krijtenberg
                    #11

                    Hey @Nca78
                    Thanks for the suggestion... I just watched this video from sparkfun: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f95i88OSWB4
                    Wow.... I was doing it soooo wrong haha. I'm gonna practice a bit to get my "balls" look more like "volcanos" (yes, still talking about electronics :P )

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                    • Maurice KrijtenbergM Maurice Krijtenberg

                      Hey @Nca78
                      Thanks for the suggestion... I just watched this video from sparkfun: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f95i88OSWB4
                      Wow.... I was doing it soooo wrong haha. I'm gonna practice a bit to get my "balls" look more like "volcanos" (yes, still talking about electronics :P )

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                      @Maurice-Krijtenberg

                      First time I've seen a person using safety goggles when soldering, and I've been in the industry since early 90's.. Working in a handful different factories.

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                      • tbowmoT tbowmo

                        @Maurice-Krijtenberg

                        First time I've seen a person using safety goggles when soldering, and I've been in the industry since early 90's.. Working in a handful different factories.

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                        #13

                        @tbowmo You don't want a hot soldering iron to bounce back into your remaining eye! :confounded:

                        http://yveaux.blogspot.nl

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                        • Maurice KrijtenbergM Offline
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                          Maurice Krijtenberg
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                          #14

                          haha :joy: well, to be extra careful, I wear gloves during soldering.

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                            Another thing I noticed in that video..

                            "Some has a heating element in the handle, this one has it separate" So the heating element is in the blue box?? And heat is transmitted through the wire to the handle? Won't you burn your pretty hands, if the heating element was in that blue box, Wonder how hot that cable would be, to heat the soldering iron part to 300 degrees celcius..

                            Why don't they make those tutorials factual correct?

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                              Reminds me of this (disturbing) video...

                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QajKC_EyXI

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                                http://makezine.com/2016/03/08/beautiful-woman-soldering-stock-photo-wrong/

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