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💬 MDMSNode "Lighting"

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  • kalinaK Offline
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    kalina
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    wrote on last edited by kalina
    #13

    Two variants of MDMSNode "Lighting"
    0_1477838355114_Two variant of Lightings.jpg

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    • kalinaK kalina

      Two variants of MDMSNode "Lighting"
      0_1477838355114_Two variant of Lightings.jpg

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      #14

      @kalina
      Can we buy it preassembled soon?

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      • Cliff KarlssonC Cliff Karlsson

        @kalina
        Can we buy it preassembled soon?

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        kalina
        Hardware Contributor
        wrote on last edited by
        #15

        @Cliff-Karlsson Yes, i have made 10 pcs. But if necessary i can solder more. Price for model with RFM69 is 23$ and with NRF24L01 is 20$...

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          #16

          Ok, great. Are there any progress on the MDMSensor "Multisensor" and gateway?

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          • Cliff KarlssonC Cliff Karlsson

            Ok, great. Are there any progress on the MDMSensor "Multisensor" and gateway?

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            kalina
            Hardware Contributor
            wrote on last edited by kalina
            #17

            @Cliff-Karlsson Yes, gateway is ready, but MDMSensor "Multisensor" is still in progress...

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            • tonnerre33T Offline
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              tonnerre33
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              #18

              Hello

              Why do you use a triac instead a relay for command the light ? What is the point ?

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              • tonnerre33T tonnerre33

                Hello

                Why do you use a triac instead a relay for command the light ? What is the point ?

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                kalina
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                #19

                Hi @tonnerre33. MOC3043 triac includes the function of Zero Voltage Crossing, this mean that triac can trigger only when AC voltage close to 0 V. SSR doesn't use this feature. If you use just one device with ordinary relay or SSR, it is not appreciably, but if the number of switching devices increases and they all switch on at the moment of maximum value AC voltage, this will produce a lot of impulse spikes of voltage, which is not desirable. Ordinary relay also makes a not comfortable sound...

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                • tonnerre33T Offline
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                  tonnerre33
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                  #20

                  @kalina thx for your answer ;)

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                  • kalinaK Offline
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                    #21

                    Hi, I want to share good news in the my project. Lighting has become more safer.
                    Instead the enclosure, I use a heat shrink tubing 3M MDT-A-32/7.5.
                    0_1484411888403_Enclosure_1.jpg
                    Here's result.
                    0_1484411900846_Enclosure_2.jpg

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                    • jeremushkaJ Offline
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                      #22

                      Your system works with phase and neutral wires? Will you make it compatible without neutral as well? In my house installation no neutral behind the wall switch only phase. And o the lamp side only neutral and the return wire from the wall switch.

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                      • jeremushkaJ jeremushka

                        Your system works with phase and neutral wires? Will you make it compatible without neutral as well? In my house installation no neutral behind the wall switch only phase. And o the lamp side only neutral and the return wire from the wall switch.

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                        kalina
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                        wrote on last edited by kalina
                        #23

                        @jeremushka said:

                        Your system works with phase and neutral wires?

                        Yes.

                        Will you make it compatible without neutral as well?

                        Actually, no. Why do you plan put this into the wall switch area? As for me, i am going to put "Lighting" near the lamp. Wall switch must be as a push button (normally closed). When you press button circuit opens (on short time) and Atmega328 resets and toggles lamp state. It means that "Lighting" always is conneted to the AC line. You can also change lamp state directly from your controller at any time. See picture below.
                        0_1484849334956_Scheme.jpg

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                        • tonnerre33T Offline
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                          wrote on last edited by tonnerre33
                          #24

                          I didn't know this method ;)

                          @kalina said:

                          When you press button circuit opens (on short time)

                          Do we have a limite time for circuit open ?

                          Atmega328 resets and toggles lamp

                          How do you do this in the sketch ?
                          Where can we find the sketch ?
                          What are the consequences for the components life ?

                          With this use, the reboot time will impact the response time bewtween the command and the lamp power , isn't it ?

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                          • tonnerre33T tonnerre33

                            I didn't know this method ;)

                            @kalina said:

                            When you press button circuit opens (on short time)

                            Do we have a limite time for circuit open ?

                            Atmega328 resets and toggles lamp

                            How do you do this in the sketch ?
                            Where can we find the sketch ?
                            What are the consequences for the components life ?

                            With this use, the reboot time will impact the response time bewtween the command and the lamp power , isn't it ?

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                            kalina
                            Hardware Contributor
                            wrote on last edited by kalina
                            #25

                            @tonnerre33 said:

                            @kalina said:

                            When you press button circuit opens (on short time)

                            Do we have a limite time for circuit open ?

                            Yes, of course. In my opinion, this time we can determine in practice, i don't know how can it be calculated. I haven't done it yet, I will try to do it on weekend.

                            Atmega328 resets and toggles lamp

                            What are the consequences for the components life ?
                            With this use, the reboot time will impact the response time bewtween the command and the lamp power , isn't it ?

                            I have no answers on this questions, it is certainly disadvantages of this method, but i wont use wall switch very often, i prefer to operate via controller. No need reboot uC in this case.

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                            • kalinaK kalina

                              @jeremushka said:

                              Your system works with phase and neutral wires?

                              Yes.

                              Will you make it compatible without neutral as well?

                              Actually, no. Why do you plan put this into the wall switch area? As for me, i am going to put "Lighting" near the lamp. Wall switch must be as a push button (normally closed). When you press button circuit opens (on short time) and Atmega328 resets and toggles lamp state. It means that "Lighting" always is conneted to the AC line. You can also change lamp state directly from your controller at any time. See picture below.
                              0_1484849334956_Scheme.jpg

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                              jeremushka
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                              #26

                              @kalina : your solution is quite interesting when push button are installed. Yes, i would like to put the system in the wall switch. For the moment, i connect the switch of the house on the arduino. The system is powered by phase and neutral in the garage as behind the switch i had the neutral wire. However, in the house no neutral like on your picture. So, im checking about using leakage current which should be enough to power on the system.... Not sure.

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                              • jeremushkaJ jeremushka

                                @kalina : your solution is quite interesting when push button are installed. Yes, i would like to put the system in the wall switch. For the moment, i connect the switch of the house on the arduino. The system is powered by phase and neutral in the garage as behind the switch i had the neutral wire. However, in the house no neutral like on your picture. So, im checking about using leakage current which should be enough to power on the system.... Not sure.

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                                kalina
                                Hardware Contributor
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #27

                                @jeremushka said:

                                So, im checking about using leakage current which should be enough to power on the >system.... Not sure.

                                I would be interested to hear about your results

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                                  bilbolodz
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                                  #28

                                  How about dimming? Due to lack of "zero crossing detection" it could be a problem!

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                                  • B bilbolodz

                                    How about dimming? Due to lack of "zero crossing detection" it could be a problem!

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                                    mfalkvidd
                                    Mod
                                    wrote on last edited by mfalkvidd
                                    #29

                                    @bilbolodz see earlier posts in this thread. The node does not support dimming, but it does support zero crossing.

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                                    • jeremushkaJ Offline
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                                      jeremushka
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #30

                                      @Kalina, does your project still alive? do you still have some samples for sales ?

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                                      • jeremushkaJ jeremushka

                                        @Kalina, does your project still alive? do you still have some samples for sales ?

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                                        kalina
                                        Hardware Contributor
                                        wrote on last edited by kalina
                                        #31

                                        @jeremushka This project has some shortcomings. For this reason I have released a new, more advanced version - MDMSNode "Lighting" Rev 1.1. If you are interested, I have more than 10 pcs in stock.

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                                        • kalinaK kalina

                                          @jeremushka This project has some shortcomings. For this reason I have released a new, more advanced version - MDMSNode "Lighting" Rev 1.1. If you are interested, I have more than 10 pcs in stock.

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                                          Mod
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #32

                                          @kalina would you mind adding a link to the new version in the description of the old one?

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