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OTA firmware updating is too slow..

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  • yd kimY Offline
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    yd kim
    wrote on last edited by
    #5

    Thanks martinhjelmare,
    Yes seems that happen to me however I have no idea why it happen.
    I have added 10uF cap for NRF24L01 and another 470uF as well.
    It happen when presentation when I load 9 sensors. I have to add wait(200) for each present() otherwise 4th or 5th fail.
    Looks like there is no handshake or doesn't consider receiver capacity.
    Is there any workaround to fix this?
    Main issue is when it fails, seems wait about 5 seconds to send again. As long as it wait less than a second, it will help for this situation..

    Cheers,
    YD

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    • martinhjelmareM Offline
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      martinhjelmare
      Plugin Developer
      wrote on last edited by
      #6

      I can post my test sketch for OTA FW updates that I used when developing support for it in pymysensors. It worked good on a SensebenderMicro 8 MHz. I think I made some adjustments to make the update more effective. I also found that it worked better with debug activated, which might be a sign that communication was not perfect. My guess is printing to serial slows down things just a little bit.

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      • yd kimY Offline
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        yd kim
        wrote on last edited by
        #7

        It will be great. I also turn on debug..
        It means driver itself is too fast to handle on atmega328??
        If we can reduce delay when it fails,it will be great. 5 seconds is too much I guess.

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        • AndurilA Offline
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          Anduril
          wrote on last edited by
          #8

          @yd-kim what bootloader are you using? I have similar problems with tekkas newest bootloader, but the older one works fine for me.

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          • AndurilA Anduril

            @yd-kim what bootloader are you using? I have similar problems with tekkas newest bootloader, but the older one works fine for me.

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            yd kim
            wrote on last edited by
            #9

            @Anduril
            Oh really? I did use MYSBootloaderV13pre.hex.
            Can you let me know which one you use?
            Thanks!

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              Anduril
              wrote on last edited by
              #10

              yeah I tried with the V13pre.hex, but with that I had problems as you descibed. Also the serial upload didn't worked for me. So there was no reason to not use the old one wich was included in his beta of MYSController. That worked much better. Maybe you can find the old version on tekkas download site of MYSController.

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              • AndurilA Anduril

                yeah I tried with the V13pre.hex, but with that I had problems as you descibed. Also the serial upload didn't worked for me. So there was no reason to not use the old one wich was included in his beta of MYSController. That worked much better. Maybe you can find the old version on tekkas download site of MYSController.

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                yd kim
                wrote on last edited by
                #11

                @Anduril

                Thank you! Will try tomorrow and update on this post!

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                  Anduril
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #12

                  just as an update, here the link to tekkas 'old' MySController with the old bootloader: https://forum.mysensors.org/topic/838/windows-gui-controller-for-mysensors/2

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                  • martinhjelmareM Offline
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                    martinhjelmare
                    Plugin Developer
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #13

                    I implemented a check for firmware update message in my modified SenseBenderMicro sketch, and alternative behavior in the loop if FW update is ongoing. This doesn't solve the problem of dropped messages, but could be good to speed up the update and don't waste time on sensor updates.

                    void loop() {
                      if (fwUpdateOngoing) {
                        fwUpdateOngoing = false;
                        fwUpdateOngoing = wait(OTA_WAIT_PERIOD, C_STREAM, ST_FIRMWARE_RESPONSE);
                      } else {
                        normalFlow();
                      }
                    }
                    
                    void normalFlow() {
                      // Short delay to allow buttons to properly settle
                      sleep(5);
                    
                      int buttonValue = digitalRead(BUTTON_PIN);
                    
                      measureCount ++;
                      sendBattery ++;
                      bool forceTransmit = false;
                      transmission_occured = false;
                    #ifndef MY_OTA_FIRMWARE_FEATURE
                      if ((measureCount == 5) && highfreq)
                      {
                        clock_prescale_set(clock_div_8); // Switch to 1Mhz for the reminder of the sketch, save power.
                        highfreq = false;
                      }
                    #endif
                    
                      if (measureCount > FORCE_TRANSMIT_INTERVAL) { // force a transmission
                        forceTransmit = true;
                        measureCount = 0;
                      }
                    
                      sendTempHumidityMeasurements(forceTransmit);
                      if (buttonValue != oldValue) {
                         // Send in the new buttonValue
                         send(msg.set(buttonValue==HIGH ? 0 : 1));
                         oldValue = buttonValue;
                         transmission_occured = true;
                      }
                    
                    #ifdef MY_OTA_FIRMWARE_FEATURE
                      if (transmission_occured) {
                        fwUpdateOngoing = wait(OTA_WAIT_PERIOD, C_STREAM, ST_FIRMWARE_RESPONSE);
                      }
                    #endif
                    
                      sleep(digitalPinToInterrupt(BUTTON_PIN), CHANGE, MEASURE_INTERVAL);
                    }
                    
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                    • martinhjelmareM martinhjelmare

                      I implemented a check for firmware update message in my modified SenseBenderMicro sketch, and alternative behavior in the loop if FW update is ongoing. This doesn't solve the problem of dropped messages, but could be good to speed up the update and don't waste time on sensor updates.

                      void loop() {
                        if (fwUpdateOngoing) {
                          fwUpdateOngoing = false;
                          fwUpdateOngoing = wait(OTA_WAIT_PERIOD, C_STREAM, ST_FIRMWARE_RESPONSE);
                        } else {
                          normalFlow();
                        }
                      }
                      
                      void normalFlow() {
                        // Short delay to allow buttons to properly settle
                        sleep(5);
                      
                        int buttonValue = digitalRead(BUTTON_PIN);
                      
                        measureCount ++;
                        sendBattery ++;
                        bool forceTransmit = false;
                        transmission_occured = false;
                      #ifndef MY_OTA_FIRMWARE_FEATURE
                        if ((measureCount == 5) && highfreq)
                        {
                          clock_prescale_set(clock_div_8); // Switch to 1Mhz for the reminder of the sketch, save power.
                          highfreq = false;
                        }
                      #endif
                      
                        if (measureCount > FORCE_TRANSMIT_INTERVAL) { // force a transmission
                          forceTransmit = true;
                          measureCount = 0;
                        }
                      
                        sendTempHumidityMeasurements(forceTransmit);
                        if (buttonValue != oldValue) {
                           // Send in the new buttonValue
                           send(msg.set(buttonValue==HIGH ? 0 : 1));
                           oldValue = buttonValue;
                           transmission_occured = true;
                        }
                      
                      #ifdef MY_OTA_FIRMWARE_FEATURE
                        if (transmission_occured) {
                          fwUpdateOngoing = wait(OTA_WAIT_PERIOD, C_STREAM, ST_FIRMWARE_RESPONSE);
                        }
                      #endif
                      
                        sleep(digitalPinToInterrupt(BUTTON_PIN), CHANGE, MEASURE_INTERVAL);
                      }
                      
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                      Mark Swift
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                      #14
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                        tekka
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                        wrote on last edited by
                        #15

                        @Mark-Swift I'm not sure I understood you right - can you explain how this applies to the bootloader?

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                          Mark Swift
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                          • martinhjelmareM martinhjelmare

                            I implemented a check for firmware update message in my modified SenseBenderMicro sketch, and alternative behavior in the loop if FW update is ongoing. This doesn't solve the problem of dropped messages, but could be good to speed up the update and don't waste time on sensor updates.

                            void loop() {
                              if (fwUpdateOngoing) {
                                fwUpdateOngoing = false;
                                fwUpdateOngoing = wait(OTA_WAIT_PERIOD, C_STREAM, ST_FIRMWARE_RESPONSE);
                              } else {
                                normalFlow();
                              }
                            }
                            
                            void normalFlow() {
                              // Short delay to allow buttons to properly settle
                              sleep(5);
                            
                              int buttonValue = digitalRead(BUTTON_PIN);
                            
                              measureCount ++;
                              sendBattery ++;
                              bool forceTransmit = false;
                              transmission_occured = false;
                            #ifndef MY_OTA_FIRMWARE_FEATURE
                              if ((measureCount == 5) && highfreq)
                              {
                                clock_prescale_set(clock_div_8); // Switch to 1Mhz for the reminder of the sketch, save power.
                                highfreq = false;
                              }
                            #endif
                            
                              if (measureCount > FORCE_TRANSMIT_INTERVAL) { // force a transmission
                                forceTransmit = true;
                                measureCount = 0;
                              }
                            
                              sendTempHumidityMeasurements(forceTransmit);
                              if (buttonValue != oldValue) {
                                 // Send in the new buttonValue
                                 send(msg.set(buttonValue==HIGH ? 0 : 1));
                                 oldValue = buttonValue;
                                 transmission_occured = true;
                              }
                            
                            #ifdef MY_OTA_FIRMWARE_FEATURE
                              if (transmission_occured) {
                                fwUpdateOngoing = wait(OTA_WAIT_PERIOD, C_STREAM, ST_FIRMWARE_RESPONSE);
                              }
                            #endif
                            
                              sleep(digitalPinToInterrupt(BUTTON_PIN), CHANGE, MEASURE_INTERVAL);
                            }
                            
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                            manutremo
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #17

                            Sorry to revive this old topic but I didn't find any other one that covered this topic.

                            I started implementing FOTA in all my nodes and was finding some low speeds as described on this topic. I then implemented the checks proposed by @martinhjelmare and they certainly helped :grinning: , although they are not yet perfect.

                            As I said I didn't other topics covering how to avoid the node from doing anything else while the FOTA is in place, not did I find any other examples on this web nor in the github mysensors examples folder.

                            Is this the only way to do this, or is there any other better way around since this was published?

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                              manutremo
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #18

                              No wonder, I think I found the way... I found there is a function isFirmwareUpdateOngoing() in MyOTAFirmwareUpdate.cpp that seems to provide that functionality in a much easier way :+1:

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                                Mark Swift
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #19

                                @manutremo please share your method so we can all benefit :)

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                                  manutremo
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #20

                                  If I understood correctly, it should as simple as in loop:

                                  if (!isFirmwareUpdateOngoing()) {
                                  <do whatever>
                                  }

                                  but for the moment take it with a pinch of salt...

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                                    Mark Swift
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #21

                                    If I recall I tried that, I seem to remember it only works for the sensebender board? Perhaps I'm mistaken though, it was over 1 year ago. @tekka, can you confirm?

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                                    • Mark SwiftM Mark Swift

                                      If I recall I tried that, I seem to remember it only works for the sensebender board? Perhaps I'm mistaken though, it was over 1 year ago. @tekka, can you confirm?

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                                      tekka
                                      Admin
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #22

                                      @Mark-Swift Correct, this works only with "online" FOTA, i.e. with boards with separate flash/eeprom HW onboard.

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                                        manutremo
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #23

                                        ok thanks for the clarification, I'm using a mini pro with a I2C memory, which is identified by the MYSController as a sensebender.

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