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[SOLVED] After upgrade to mysensors 2.1 problems with radio module might manifest itself more.

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  • AnticimexA Anticimex

    @Nicklas-Starkel ok. Well like I already said, your problem (at least according to your logs) have nothing to do with signing, but with rf issues. If you were to send messages that were larger you most likely would have the same problem, signing on or off, so I can just stress that referencing signing just shadows the real issue. Signing is only a way of extending the message size to provoke the issue. Signing has been verified to work with 2.1 as @tekka stated, so I (as the security guy) consider the issue settled from a signing perspective.

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    @Anticimex maybe I was not clear enough or used the wrong words?
    I still understand that the problem is not with signing.
    I pointed out that using signing provokes the error.
    The error is still an underlying issue weather it be my hardware or it be NRF module code in mysensors 2.1.

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      @Anticimex maybe I was not clear enough or used the wrong words?
      I still understand that the problem is not with signing.
      I pointed out that using signing provokes the error.
      The error is still an underlying issue weather it be my hardware or it be NRF module code in mysensors 2.1.

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      @Nicklas-Starkel Did you also try with different GW hardware, i.e. ESP8266 or a regular Uno?

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        @Nicklas-Starkel Did you also try with different GW hardware, i.e. ESP8266 or a regular Uno?

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        @tekka that was my next goal ;)

        I just built an UNO with an ethernet shield and low and behold its working with 47uF capacitor.
        Conclusion:
        MEGA does not work with NRF plate adapter nor 47uF capacitor.
        UNO works with 47uF capacitor only (not with plate).

        All nodes are reporting in (mixed 2.0 and 2.1).
        I use @AWI quality meter with NRF plate board to test as well and it is OK.

        So same NRF hardware yields different results on UNO and MEGA for me.

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          @tekka that was my next goal ;)

          I just built an UNO with an ethernet shield and low and behold its working with 47uF capacitor.
          Conclusion:
          MEGA does not work with NRF plate adapter nor 47uF capacitor.
          UNO works with 47uF capacitor only (not with plate).

          All nodes are reporting in (mixed 2.0 and 2.1).
          I use @AWI quality meter with NRF plate board to test as well and it is OK.

          So same NRF hardware yields different results on UNO and MEGA for me.

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          Anticimex
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          @Nicklas-Starkel
          Any difference in how you power the radio?

          Do you feel secure today? No? Start requiring some signatures and feel better tomorrow ;)

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          • AnticimexA Anticimex

            @Nicklas-Starkel
            Any difference in how you power the radio?

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            @Anticimex
            I power either with 3xAAA (4.5V) if I'm using the plate.
            If I'm using only capacitor I power with 2xAA (3.3V).
            Tried both versions with same results. Only difference is Arduino/MEGA.
            All batteries fresh and also checked with voltmeter ;)

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              @Anticimex
              I power either with 3xAAA (4.5V) if I'm using the plate.
              If I'm using only capacitor I power with 2xAA (3.3V).
              Tried both versions with same results. Only difference is Arduino/MEGA.
              All batteries fresh and also checked with voltmeter ;)

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              Anticimex
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              @Nicklas-Starkel
              I mean do you power the radio by dedicated regulator or directly from mcu?

              Do you feel secure today? No? Start requiring some signatures and feel better tomorrow ;)

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              • AnticimexA Anticimex

                @Nicklas-Starkel
                I mean do you power the radio by dedicated regulator or directly from mcu?

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                @Anticimex I not sure I follow you and perhaps I am doing it wrong :)
                I power my arduinos via their usb jacket, 5V/2.1A
                If I'm using the NRF plate it has its own dedicated regulator hence its getting 3xAAA 4.5V.
                Otherwise I am using 2xAA which is around 3.3V connected to VCC/GND of the radio module and GND is also connected to the arduino.

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                • N Nicklas Starkel

                  @Anticimex I not sure I follow you and perhaps I am doing it wrong :)
                  I power my arduinos via their usb jacket, 5V/2.1A
                  If I'm using the NRF plate it has its own dedicated regulator hence its getting 3xAAA 4.5V.
                  Otherwise I am using 2xAA which is around 3.3V connected to VCC/GND of the radio module and GND is also connected to the arduino.

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                  Anticimex
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                  @Nicklas-Starkel
                  I owe you an apology. It appears there for some configuration combinations does exist a bug for signing in 2.1. @tekka found a problem where the signing presentation in some situations would not be sent to the correct node.
                  That said, you do appear to also have issues with the radio (the NACKs) but you are correct in that there is an issue with signing. It will be resolved in 2.1.1.
                  Thank you for reporting, and again, please accept my sincere apology for failing to look more thoroughly through your logs.

                  Do you feel secure today? No? Start requiring some signatures and feel better tomorrow ;)

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                  • AnticimexA Anticimex

                    @Nicklas-Starkel
                    I owe you an apology. It appears there for some configuration combinations does exist a bug for signing in 2.1. @tekka found a problem where the signing presentation in some situations would not be sent to the correct node.
                    That said, you do appear to also have issues with the radio (the NACKs) but you are correct in that there is an issue with signing. It will be resolved in 2.1.1.
                    Thank you for reporting, and again, please accept my sincere apology for failing to look more thoroughly through your logs.

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                    @Anticimex , eh, no apologies needed. I'm thankful mysensors is opensource and actually FREE!
                    Cool that you found a bug and if I helped, I'm glad :)

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                      @Anticimex and @tekka .
                      I just upgraded my GW (MEGA) and most sensors.
                      I do not know what you did, but my range is incredible now (and everything works!)
                      I had good coverage in my apartment before, but if I went outside my front door it started failing (steel security door).
                      Now, I can not only go outside the door, I can actually go 3 stairs down in my building with AWIs NRF tester.
                      Same hardware is used and nothing has changed from my part.

                      Kudos and thank you.

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                        @Anticimex and @tekka .
                        I just upgraded my GW (MEGA) and most sensors.
                        I do not know what you did, but my range is incredible now (and everything works!)
                        I had good coverage in my apartment before, but if I went outside my front door it started failing (steel security door).
                        Now, I can not only go outside the door, I can actually go 3 stairs down in my building with AWIs NRF tester.
                        Same hardware is used and nothing has changed from my part.

                        Kudos and thank you.

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                        Anticimex
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                        @Nicklas-Starkel nice to hear! We are constantly trying to improve the performance in various aspects. I think it is @tekka that deserves the credit for increased rf performance as he has done a tremendous work with the drivers.

                        Do you feel secure today? No? Start requiring some signatures and feel better tomorrow ;)

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